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Completely useless. People already complain Touch ID 2 is too fast. iOS 10 also already can detect people via algorithms so why would we need this?

Edit: sure if both of your hands accidentally fall off maybe then it could be of use.. Though it may be difficult using an iPhone without any hands

The aim may be to get rid of the home button and claim that space for the screen.
 
Right now the Note 7's scanner doesn't play nice with glasses, contacts, puffy eyes, narrowed eyes, poor lighting conditions, bright lighting conditions, and must be a certain distance away from your eyes or it will do something not very nice to your eyeballs. So basically I have a better chance of turning into a werewolf than I have of it working for me. ;)

Really? Until recently, the Iris scanner was still just a rumor, that is until an image of the phone's front panel was leaked confirming the scanner was really coming to the Note 7, how have you gotten such detailed information on its failures and what it's "not" able to do well? You must have a top secret connection, tell us, do you write for MacRumors or another large, well-recognized website or publication where this talent and these connections can be made useful?
 
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No - please make iris scanning an additional form of security NOT a replacement for fingerprints.

This.
Even with night shift mode I like to keep my iPhone far from my eyes at night and I wouldn't be able to unlock it via iris scanning.
TouchID in my iPhone 6s is super fast, I'd rather have the fingerprint integrated into the display to get rid of the home button than have to look at my phone to unlock it.
 
This.
Even with night shift mode I like to keep my iPhone far from my eyes at night and I wouldn't be able to unlock it via iris scanning.
TouchID in my iPhone 6s is super fast, I'd rather have the fingerprint integrated into the display to get rid of the home button than have to look at my phone to unlock it.

Even though I'd probably agree with you, Apple doesn't work that way. People complained about touchID in the same way when it was introduced. Iris scanning is quickly making it's way into our products. In 10 years, that's how you'll enter your home and gain entry to your driver-less vehicle.
 
Really? Until recently, the Iris scanner was still just a rumor, that is until an image of the phone's front panel was leaked confirming the scanner was really coming to the Note 7, how have you gotten such detailed information on its failures and what it's "not" able to do well? You must have a top secret connection, tell us, do you write for MacRumors or another large, well-recognized website or publication where this talent and these connections can be made useful?
Why yes, I do know several writers and journalists and do have interesting connections for various subjects, but alas, few of them are pertinent to discussions on this forum. On occasion they are, but that's rare, and even when they are, I keep mum so I don't find myself locked out of the loop. I'd rather know good stuff and keep it to myself than be a blabbermouth to score points on various internet forums full of hotheads I don't even know.

I did once contribute (non-technical) material to a book on robotics and a few articles to various kennel clubs. I wrote one article that ended up in some obscure publication for the Iditarod, even though I have yet to see a sled dog in person. :eek: Life is strange that way. But no, I have not written for this particular site.

Now as to the scanner, it is all over the Android Note7 forum threads in various sites. I barely have one eye open this morning so I'm not looking it up now when I haven't finished my tea yet. There's this instruction guide, presumably also a leak, that tells you the basic "don't get them wet, don't feed them after midnight stuff...yada yada." Anyway it looks legit and it looks reasonable as to how to use and not use the scanner. Our real world mileage will vary, of course.
 
It's really cool on my Surface Pro. Not sure why there's such a negative response on here? Fingerprint may be faster, but I'm sure iris scanning will improve.
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This.
Even with night shift mode I like to keep my iPhone far from my eyes at night and I wouldn't be able to unlock it via iris scanning.
TouchID in my iPhone 6s is super fast, I'd rather have the fingerprint integrated into the display to get rid of the home button than have to look at my phone to unlock it.

how far do you keep it from your eyes? It will probably work unless you are talking like 3 ft+ which wouldn't' even make sense.
 
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It's really cool on my Surface Pro. Not sure why there's such a negative response on here? Fingerprint may be faster, but I'm sure iris scanning will improve.
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how far do you keep it from your eyes? It will probably work unless you are talking like 3 ft+ which wouldn't' even make sense.
Yeah it's really something to see it in action on Surface Pro. My husband uses it but he says it is a facial scanner, not an iris scanner and measures points on your face. He says it fails on occasion and he has to log in with his PIN so it's not as reliable as Apple Touch ID seems to be for most forum users who comment here.
 
That's not going to work well while driving.

Not that anyone should, but plenty of people do. And it's the impact of those folks' distracted-driving that endangers us all.

Wouldn't the phone still have fingerprint scans on them making almost every single argument in this thread irrelevant?
 
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how far do you keep it from your eyes? It will probably work unless you are talking like 3 ft+ which wouldn't' even make sense.

It wouldn't, because at night I don't look directly to the phone but I hold it slightly orientated towards the ceiling so the light doesn't strike me right into the eyes. I find it really restful

Even though I'd probably agree with you, Apple doesn't work that way. People complained about touchID in the same way when it was introduced. Iris scanning is quickly making it's way into our products. In 10 years, that's how you'll enter your home and gain entry to your driver-less vehicle.

I know, and iris scan could be a great way to unlock the phone and authenticate the user for Apple pay.
I just want it to be an alternative, not the only way to unlock a phone. Using a fingerprint is so convenient, and what happens when you wear sunglasses?
 
Updated: Apple has now pushed back this feature to 2030... Samsung reports this feature will be coming to it's lines of Galaxy phones in 2017.
 
How I will lock my phone: Iris scanner, finger print, passcode, voice message all at the same time to unlock.
 
Why install something that's slower and won't work under all conditions when compared to a fingerprint scanner? Why even have two different biometric scanners on a single phone? I don't buy this rumor for a second.

Because there's some aspect of it that would be an improvement *IF* they are able to overcome the problems. Maybe Apple uses infa-red to see your iris instead of a normal camera so it works in the dark. Maybe they get it good enough that it only uses the outer sliver of your iris, so it doesn't matter if your pupil is dilated.

What are the benefits? It may be harder to lift someone's iris pattern than their fingerprint, making it more secure. Maybe they can remove the home button entirely (in what I think is a quest to remove everything but the screen... I'm sure they're working on ways to put the camera behind the screen too). Sounds like it's going to be even faster than fingerprint reading.

This is the point of R&D. At some point in its development, your new tech is going to be worse than your old tech. I'm sure at some point (before predictive text, finessing hit targets, etc.) that software keyboards were way slower than hardware keyboards on phones. Electric cars didn't always work well. WiFi was too slow. Automated self-checkouts were slower. All reasons to improve. Not to give up.
 
TouchID in my iPhone 6s is super fast, I'd rather have the fingerprint integrated into the display to get rid of the home button than have to look at my phone to unlock it.

If they were unsuccessful at making Touch Id work well from the screen, they'd have to switch to a different method.

They could argue that the phone is useless without being looked at anyway (since it's all touch).
 
"In 2020, iPhone 11 will allow for semen sampling in its biometric data suite. Single mothers rejoice as illegitimate pregnancies will become easier to determine paternal parenthood and increase child support payments"

Until ruled inadmissible by the Honorable Frank N. Furter.
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"i'll be back in a minute, have to remove the eyes lens i can't unlock my iPhone"

Or swap to an approved iLens QR Contact Lens.
 
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So, to use my phone, in bed, which I sometimes do, I have to turn my light on? I only have a very dim lamp as my bedside lamp.

THIS would move me away from iPhone.
 
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Man, if this is true Apple will be releasing their version of the Samsung Galaxy S6 in 2017. Then the 2018 model will be their Note 7. I love iCloud and iOS but hardware trailing 2 years behind is getting frustrating.
How can anybody love iCloud?
 
Indeed.

Best not to use your phone whilst driving.

Or trying to call a cab? ;)

I thought about that at first and was like - emergency can still be done. Then started thinking what constituted an emergency. I'm inebriated and trying to call a cab and Siri says "you're drunk and cannot be trusted to operate this device." Made me start thinking about the legality of offing your personal wanna-be AI. :cool:
 
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