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I used CLEAR in the early 2000s, before it had a name. It was just a pilot program at Washington Reagan Airport. Bypassing the post-9/11 security lines was a blessing.

Later, I enrolled in the Iris program at Heathrow. I was working in the UK at the time, and skipping the long lines at border control was very convenient. There were seldom more than two or three people ahead of me to use Iris. As an added bonus, my work there was in a grey area. I was technically working for a US company, but an ornery immigration agent might not give me the benefit of the doubt. One of my coworkers on the project got put on a plane back to the US, and blacklisted for future UK travel. Ironically, the thing that made me eligible to skip the ornery agents (multiple recent stamps in my passport) was the exact thing that the agent would have found suspicious.

This technology is much more than a decade old. It's not outrageous to think that similar tech could be made available on smartphones fifteen years later. The database used for the recognition doesn't have to be extensive, it only needs to hold the iris data points for the user(s) of the particular phone. Think how cameraphones improved in only a few years. A decade and a half is eternity.
 
You should know by now that Apple doesn't need an "excuse" do to anything... it just does it and you'll like it. Kind of like an arranged marriage with an attractive woman from a wealthy family, but also a bit on the demanding side.

"I married the perfect woman that was picked for me. She is gorgeous, intelligent, wealthy, sexual, well mannered. And yes, there is a reason her car license plate reads "The Bitch"".
 
Current iris scanning implementations have some notable benefits over Touch ID, including no need for direct contact to unlock a device...

Nonsense. Firstly, when would you unlock your phone and not handle it afterwards unless you have a disability? Eye scanning won't work from a distance that allows you to unlock it across a room. And it sure as heck won't be a benefit while driving!
 
Awesome, millions of devices sold that will
Capture our finger prints and retina scans, and like idiots we just hand over our most confidential details . Just need to wait for the model that holds our dental records . We would never give this info to our governments, yet will be handing it over to Apple or google.

I'm going to find my Nokia 3310 and drop off the system :p
 
So far there has been a lot of information leaked about how the iris scanner is supposed to work--and more important not work--on the Note 7 and Apple is wise to wait until 2018.

Right now the Note 7's scanner doesn't play nice with glasses, contacts, puffy eyes, narrowed eyes, poor lighting conditions, bright lighting conditions, and must be a certain distance away from your eyes or it will do something not very nice to your eyeballs. So basically I have a better chance of turning into a werewolf than I have of it working for me. ;)

It's already a thing on Windows and Windows Phone though, as part of Windows Hello. Works with glasses and lowlight (uses IR, so backlight is more of an issue tbh) but I'd like to have fingerprint scanner AND iris scanner. Iris scanner has it's usage areas but fingerprint is generally a more convenient method of unlocking IMHO.
 
There are no rumors about the 2018 iPhone as of yet, but it will follow the 2017 iPhone.

No kidding.....
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No thanks, I don't need Tim Crook and Apple handing over a scan of my Iris to the government.

Yeah a fingerprint is ok, but an irisscan isn't.... :rolleyes:
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It's "Airport Schiphol", not "Schiphol Airport".

Wrong. It is Schiphol Airport. Best Wishes, someone from Amsterdam.
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** its Schiphol, Amsterdam Airportn (http://www.schiphol.nl)
** the picture displays an iris scanner not known at the airport

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The iris scanner shown in the original MR post was in operation at Schiphol Airport. I used it regularly as a Privium Member. They upgraded now to a newer system, but the one shown was in use at Schiphol.
 
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The OP was complaining that Apple used to be the first with innovations. I was pointing out that Apple's canonical products were not the first of their type, simply the first put together well enough as a whole package to be easily used by, and thus widely purchased by, the general public.
Right, so when you said they released the very first smartphone, you actually meant that they didn't release the first smartphone in reply to someone who said Apple used to be innovative leaders.. boy is this confusing...
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No thanks, I don't need Tim Crook and Apple handing over a scan of my Iris to the government.
But your are happy to give them your fingerprint.. first step to a full DNA register... big.brother is not only watching these days...
 
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Apple is working on iPhones with iris scanning capabilities that could debut in 2018, reports DigiTimes in a wider piece about increasing interest in advanced biometric functionality in smartphones.

Iris scanning would potentially be used in place of Touch ID as a way to verify a user's identity, performing functions like making payments and unlocking an iOS device. Each person's iris, or the circular colored muscle of the eye, contains a complex and random pattern that is unique to each individual, much like a fingerprint.

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An iris recognition machine at the Schiphol Airport
Apple has been rumored to be looking into iris scanning in the past and it is a technology that is gaining interest in the smartphone arena. Samsung is said to be planning to debut its iris recognition technology as soon as next month with the introduction of the Galaxy Note 7.

Current iris scanning implementations have some notable benefits over Touch ID, including no need for direct contact to unlock a device and faster unlock speeds, but there are also drawbacks such as poor functionality in low lighting and issues with performance following alcohol consumption and eye surgery.

DigiTimes is not always a reliable source of information, so the rumor should be viewed with some skepticism until confirmed, but KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo also believes Apple is planning on introducing new biometric features in a future iPhone, which could include either facial or iris scanning. Kuo's rumor pertained to the 2017 iPhone, but it's always possible such an advanced feature won't be ready to debut until a later date.

There are no rumors about the 2018 iPhone as of yet, but it will follow the 2017 iPhone, which is rumored to feature radical design changes in the form of an edge-to-edge OLED display with no home button and a camera and Touch ID sensor that are integrated into the screen. Wireless charging, a faster A11 processor, and a fully glass body like the iPhone 4 are also possibilities for the device and will likely also be seen in the follow-up 2018 iPhone.

Article Link: iPhone Rumored to Include Iris Scanning Capabilities Starting in 2018

So now instead of just having to worry about getting a finger chopped off, we have to worry about getting an eyeball gouged out?
Urggghh!
 
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Sweet! I've been waiting for a way to game (moving and shooting blasters) just like Maximillian Sterling from Robotech Masters!!

(you know that technology that was proported to inspire the Apache AH-14 Helicopters Eye-Reticle for heads-up display targeting where the Gatling Gun follows the pilots head movement?! Yup years before even conceived by Lockhead.
 
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Right, so when you said they released the very first smartphone, you actually meant that they didn't release the first smartphone in reply to someone who said Apple used to be innovative leaders.. boy is this confusing...
Apologies. I assume a level of sarcasm gets through which doesn't always translate to non-spoken communication.
 
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Yeah a fingerprint is ok, but an irisscan isn't.... :rolleyes:

Some people don't use or trust the fingerprint option :p
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But your are happy to give them your fingerprint.. first step to a full DNA register... big.brother is not only watching these days...

Actually I haven't given them my fingerprint and i feel alot better not doing so after Apple betrayed the privacy of a customer to the FBI.
 
(you know that technology that was proported to inspire the Apache AH-14 Helicopters Eye-Reticle for heads-up display targeting where the Gatling Gun follows the pilots head movement?! Yup years before even conceived by Lockhead.
FWIW, the US Army had the M128 HSS helmet sighting system (which slaved the chin turret to point wherever the pilot looked) in active field use on the AH-1 Cobra helicopter - the AH-64 Apache's predecessor - in the late 70's, long before the anime debuted. I suspect that's mostly where Lockheed got the idea.
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So now instead of just having to worry about getting a finger chopped off, we have to worry about getting an eyeball gouged out?
Urggghh!
Time to watch "Demolition Man" again :D
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Actually I haven't given them my fingerprint and i feel alot better not doing so after Apple betrayed the privacy of a customer to the FBI.
If you don't trust the fingerprint security or Apple, how do you know they aren't collecting a fingerprint every time you touch the home button, even if TouchID is turned off?

And Apple didn't betray anyone. They've stated quite clearly and repeatedly that they will provide information that they have access to (which by design doesn't include the encrypted contents of your phone), to law enforcement officials upon presentation of a valid court order compelling them to do so. This isn't simply a nice idea, it's the law. Are you suggesting you want Apple to break the law?
 
Hate to sound paranoid but some cameras can now scan your iris from up to 30 feet away. Buying a phone with this kind of authentification would mean having great confidence in the futur policy of the company and of the governement or just being ignorant...
 
You mean like when they released the very first portable digital music player, and the very first smartphone? But then, neither of those really went anywhere.

HUH?......Apple were not the first at an mp3 player nor a smartphone, very very seldom is Apple first at anything.

Give your head a shake!
 
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