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iPhone SDK Details Emerging?

nooo!!! Gps! Keyboard! Satellite Internet! :(

I was hoping at least a keyboard the width of the phone to put at the dock connector...or so you suppose that won't require the sdk?

Somehow we all knew apple would approve all programs. Ugh. Gonna take a while for developers who didnt get the sdk early.
 
I agree this is a good thing. I personally would rather have applications that I can rely on not to screw up my iPod. I also agree that having it in iTunes, as previously mentioned, will undoubtedly open up these applications to a far greater audience. The only downside might be the delay in getting the applications approved - but again, for me, a small price to pay to have the 'Apple stamp of approval' on it.

Shame about the No Accessory Support, but perhaps this will come in time. Apple obviously listens to their customers otherwise we won't have the SDK in the first place.

Don't panic everyone, sure it will be fine.
 
Markleshark said:
It'd be a shame if it didn't include accessory support, but the fact they are reviewing the apps is a plus in my eyes. I think this is a must, especially if we're going to be charged.
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Are you nuts or are you a shareholder? This destroys the market for freeware and FLOSS, some developers don't bother charging for every little thing either because it's an extra that they worked on or just do software development on their spare time. Some of the best apps on the planet are also FLOSS such as Adium, Quicksilver, HandBrake, and Goban, granted the only ones on that list that might be used on an iPhone are Adium and Goban, but you get the point, and that's not even mentioning the fact that Apple built their operating system on FLOSS.

What about applications that compete with the default apps that Apple has installed? Will apps be able to use the EDGE radio or are they going to be glued to WiFi while Apple has the advantage with their apps having access to the always on connection (with the exception of the iTunes WiFi Store)? Will it be possible to add 3rd party codecs?

Sebastian
 
Sounds as though the SDK will be severely crippled. Apple acting in a complete control freak manner, is very detrimental to the user.

Apple shouldn't control the applications, let the eco-system decide which applications live or die.

Apple should let the user decide. Apple should stamp applications with "Apple Approved". The user can decide if they choose to install any apps that aren't approved by Apple.
 
I would think allowing developers to post software via iTunes would be a huge advantage, even if Apple was the gatekeeper.

Is this not the same as podcasts? How many podcast content creators rely on the advantage of iTunes distribution? How many customers rely on the seamless updating, syncing, and exchange of that content via iTunes?

The point is that if I were a third party developer, I'd want my software on iTunes. It takes a huge burden off of me to market and distribute my software on my own.

Any honestly (and I'll get flamed for this) if you make good software, you shouldn't have a problem with Apple's "quality control" anyways. I'd much rather have 100 quality programs on iTunes that I know will work rather than 1,000 choices, only some of which may be decent (or even work right or not screw up my iPhone.)
 
Distributing via the iTunes Store makes complete sense. A one stop shop for everything you need on your iPhone. Fits exactly into Apple's belief of keeping things simple.
 
levitynyc said:
I am disappointed if the SDK was still in Beta form. Stevie said that it would be ready to go in February and now it'll be March and still in Beta form? I hope this isnt true.
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Steve said, "we plan to have an SDK in developers' hands in February," when he made the SDK announcement in October. Since there are some developers with a version of the SDK and it is still February, I would say he stuck to his word. Rolling out an SDK and coming up with a good process for getting them to the customer isn't a small task.

As Steve said (script linked above) protecting people from malicious code is diametrically opposed to providing an open platform for developers. Apple has to figure out a happy medium here.
 
arkitect said:
"Stevie" says a lot of things… :rolleyes: and not all of them are little golden nuggets of wisdom and promises kept.
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You would think the CEO of a multi billion dollar company would be able to give semi accurate information.
 
apple are paranoid about security and i dont blame them imagine what a virus could or would do for the iphone. :apple:
 
Nike +

Does the lack of availability of the dock for 3rd party apps include nike + do you think? Why would that be? They already have an established relationship with Nike and lots of Nike+ accessories. I sure hope there is an exception for this, as I've been looking forward to running, then uploading my run data without having to sync with a computer.:confused:
 
Meh

As per usual, more waiting. But I'm fine with that as long as everything is polished and kink-free (or as kink-free as possible).

I have a question about the possible Lotus Notes integration. If this does indeed happen, would this require a phone call to my IT department? Cuz I love those phone calls :rolleyes:
 
abiyng87 said:
Steve said, "we plan to have an SDK in developers' hands in February," when he made the SDK announcement in October. Since there are some developers with a version of the SDK and it is still February, I would say he stuck to his word. Rolling out an SDK and coming up with a good process for getting them to the customer isn't a small task.
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levitynyc said:
You would think the CEO of a multi billion dollar company would be able to give semi accurate information.
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Read the comment from abiyng87 —*says it all. There are no lies and deceit… just real world factors.
And at the end of the day SJ will say what he/Apple thinks will keep the shareholders/market happy.
 
dr_lha said:
My point is that AT&T haven't required any software vetting on any of their other smart phones have they? Yet swordsman24 is sure that this is the reason why Apple want to vet apps. If AT&T were so pushy in this area, it would be true for all other smartphones as well, especially now that phones like Blackberries are becoming mainstream.
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To be honest this is the only sensible way to distribute applications, it should be done on the PC as well, unfortunately its too late for that.

The only criticism is that businesses need to be able to distribute internal applications without putting them on iTunes, either by making a fixed charge each time or by using a special authentication server.

It could also be a problem is the processing time for signing applications is longer than a week, or is expensive (I would hope that for iTunes distributed applications it'll be free), but I doubt that will be the case.
 
What is going to stop people from jailbreaking and installing apps that are not approved but, are still built with the SDK? I think the hacking community will stay very very alive even after the SDK arrives. Think about it... there will probably be only a few Apps on iTunes and they probably won't be iChat and will probably mostly be games (like the 5G iPod downloads). I don't want games... I want real software to run on my mobile Mac OS X Operating System. They should just open the iPhone and stop restricting the users access to it's files. Imagine if Mac OS X could only install official Apple-Approved files?
 
igazza said:
apple are paranoid about security and i dont blame them imagine what a virus could or would do for the iphone. :apple:
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Viruses don't affect other phones, despite other smartphones being open (i.e., developers freely allowed to write applications and distribute them ). There are viruses out there, but the security models of the OSes are good enough. iPhone must have a very very weak security model.

I think Apple's parania says everything: The iPhone is still a beta product that is very weak. It 'just about' works, and thats it.
 
beta

if the SDK is in fact released as a beta, do you guys think that means no apps available on iTunes until the SDK goes gold in june? or do you think a beta SDK just means limited to simpler functions that have been fully tested, with the final SDK hopefully adding dock & bluetooth support?

i'm sure we'll see a few select apps released next week, but i do wonder if allowing developers to play with the beta, but not actually release apps til june will frustrate developers more than anything else.
 
Apple wanting near-schizophrenic control over what people can do with their products? Surely you're mistaken!
 
confirmed said:
if the SDK is in fact released as a beta, do you guys think that means no apps available on iTunes until the SDK goes gold in june? or do you think a beta SDK just means limited to simpler functions that have been fully tested, with the final SDK hopefully adding dock & bluetooth support?
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No, it just means they can change stuff in the SDK without people whining too much.

lamina said:
Apple wanting near-schizophrenic control over what people can do with their products? Surely you're mistaken!
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Virtually all security problems with PC's are caused by the user having far too much control over their own computer.
 
Bt

I wonder if devs have access to the bluetooth module. There would be almost no need to access the accessory port.
 
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