iPhone is a weak beta product??? Mine works consistently great, which is why I want more applications on it. I've not had problems with my i-phone, so if this is beta, boy am I excited for the final release.
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iPhone is a weak beta product??? Mine works consistently great, which is why I want more applications on it. I've not had problems with my i-phone, so if this is beta, boy am I excited for the final release.
An application can be FLOSS/FOSS and still cost money. The term "free" in those acronyms doesn't mean "doesn't cost money." If a developer doesn't want to charge I am sure they won't have to. I would actually be willing to bet on it. Look at the application links for the mac platform. Some cost money and some don't. I think we can all agree that Apple approval is about the only way to prevent malicious code from ruining the iphone experience.
This is all about the *average* user. The one that wants things simple and quality. The one that doesn't want to have to go to 25 different websites to root through alpha quality apps that don't quite do what they want and try various, but different install processes.
By having quality control and a single distribution point, Apple makes it easy to browse for apps, acquire them and install them. They also make sure the apps work.
Right or wrong, people will add in their experience with other random apps when they judge the iPhone.
While it may not make sense for the geek fanboy who posts relentlessly on rumor sites, the bulk of the iPhone's target will be well served by these decisions. As a business, of course they're going to go the route of pleasing the largest number of people.
By having quality control and a single distribution point, Apple makes it easy to browse for apps, acquire them and install them. They also make sure the apps work.
Right or wrong, people will add in their experience with other random apps when they judge the iPhone.
While it may not make sense for the geek fanboy who posts relentlessly on rumor sites, the bulk of the iPhone's target will be well served by these decisions. As a business, of course they're going to go the route of pleasing the largest number of people.
You are. An SDK is a toolset. A package of documents, samples, details and instructions on how to interface with the phone for developers to utilize.
I think there are HUGE misconceptions on what exactly a SDK is.
Ahh... this is a rumor site you know?
Guys, Although I've found many of the rumors here to be dead on or at least 75% true most of the time, we won't know the real truth until next week when Apple (Steve) lets the cat out of the bag.
Personally, Apple seems to always have a good valid reason for what they do. Be it quality, security or contractual issues. The iPhone is a killer product and I'm sure they want it to stay that way... some control is not going to kill the 3rd party apps. I'm sure we'll be very happy and more will come with time.
You know... Apple causes this sort of reaction by spoiling us. We're so use to getting the "Wow" factor and things we never thought of that when we think we're being shorted we get all upset. But look at how much they have done in the last year - it's amazing when you look at the bog picture and compare that to other companies.
Keep it in perspective and lets see what comes out next week. It should be good.
Guys, Although I've found many of the rumors here to be dead on or at least 75% true most of the time, we won't know the real truth until next week when Apple (Steve) lets the cat out of the bag.
Personally, Apple seems to always have a good valid reason for what they do. Be it quality, security or contractual issues. The iPhone is a killer product and I'm sure they want it to stay that way... some control is not going to kill the 3rd party apps. I'm sure we'll be very happy and more will come with time.
You know... Apple causes this sort of reaction by spoiling us. We're so use to getting the "Wow" factor and things we never thought of that when we think we're being shorted we get all upset. But look at how much they have done in the last year - it's amazing when you look at the bog picture and compare that to other companies.
Keep it in perspective and lets see what comes out next week. It should be good.
Are you crazy? Or just naive?
Remember Google is your friend:
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/cell-phone-virus.htm
iPhone is a weak beta product??? Mine works consistently great, which is why I want more applications on it. I've not had problems with my i-phone, so if this is beta, boy am I excited for the final release.
I could not agree more! The other poster obviously does not have an iPhone!
I think Apple is hell bent on maintaining quality on the phone and not letting things that might harm the phone onto it. I also think Apple is hell bent on making access easy for users.
Yeah... I'm sure the iPhone product team is planning it's demise and failure as we speak! UGH! Be real!
Like on iTunes?
Also, people who start their posts with "Uh" or "Ummm" tend to be idiots.
I think that you are correct here. I think that the beta will be there to allow for application development to begin. Deployment will likely occur after the SDK is finalized. I would hate to have "official" apps available now, only to be broken by a firmware update that closes/changes/deprecates some of the beta SDK APIs.
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This is a very good point which I hadn't thought about. In my line of work I could consider some very nice applications for the iPhone that I could code up that couldn't be done either as a web app, and definitely could not be released to the public. If all apps for the iPhone have to be vetted through Apple and then released to the public, then this would put a definite cramp on any "in-house" business iPhone apps.
Are you friggin' kidding me?!!
Let me get this straight. I have to dedicate crazy time, money, effort to build software for the iPhone and then it's a crap shoot if Apple will let me get my investment back and not the marketplace?
I guess in economics they call that "barriers of entry". I'd like to add the adjective "needless" in front of that phrase. This alone is going to discourage the kinda fun $5 game from coming out except by the big shots.
Un-friggin-real.
Let me get this straight. I have to dedicate crazy time, money, effort to build software for the iPhone and then it's a crap shoot if Apple will let me get my investment back and not the marketplace?
I guess in economics they call that "barriers of entry". I'd like to add the adjective "needless" in front of that phrase. This alone is going to discourage the kinda fun $5 game from coming out except by the big shots.
Un-friggin-real.
Bull****. The only way Apple's doing this is because they don't want 3rd-party developers to distribute software w/o Apple getting its share of the pie.Why? So I can get your free break-my-iPod app on my iPod without Apple knowing? Yeah, people with your attitude will be missed by myself and I'm sure by Apple.
At least we'll get quality apps, and not deadwood.
Besides, you speak as if large software companies and them only were capable of writing quality apps. In real life, they don't do better than their competitors - among which a huge number of high quality open source projects.
At any rate, I don't need Apple to tell me which apps they want me to use, or what I should consider quality. The community's a much better source of information (obviously, I'm referring to actually available software here, not rumors) on that account. Promoting some kind of certification would be much better for the community.
At any rate, if that's Apple's choice - and that's well within their rights - I'll just be disappointed and go the jailbreak way, both of which, I'm sure, will be make the headlines
Fanboi talk. Sorry, none of that is true. If you did not knew there are better ways to maintaining quality and preventing harm. Access easy for user - wha?
No it's not. iTunes is just a podcast directory. Each podcast still handles its own distribution.
I have one question for people that think Apple being the sole gatekeeper is a good thing. Do you install third-party applications on your computer? Does that bother or scare you at all? If so then I can understand why you're happy about this. I'm also sorry for you.
But if you have no problem with third party apps on your computer, why are you afraid of having them on your iPhone/Touch? The only reason there would be any difference between third-party apps on the different platforms would be if the OS security on the iPhone/Touch is bad. Do you think the security of the iPhone/Touch is any weaker than desktop OS X? If so, why not be more worried about that than third-party apps?
No, its a security issue. If you prevented non-computer experts from download executable files from any site except Apple, Microsoft, Adobe, Download.com and other download sites computers would be a hell of a lot more secure.
That is the same with applications, but if they were signed then developers can't change the application code afterwards.
Forcing downloads to be conducted through one site brings the benefit to developers of increased advertising coverage.
I would love to hear you ideas for this, as I am obviously incompetent and cannot think of them on my own.
I'm sure it will be possible to jailbreak the SDK at least to some degree. But there is ZERO percent chance to jailbreak Mr. Apple iPhone iTunes Gatekeeper Distributer Dictator. If anyone does know this guy, let me know. Maybe he'll take bribes like all other dictators.
I think when you add in the cell phone capability and the mobility of the iPhone there are some additional risks. However, if (AND IF... remember this is a rumor site) they mandate software distribution through iTunes, I don't see that as a bad thing. It will provide consistency... also, maybe the thing they are trying to secure is the API to the iPhone so hackers can't get in and mess with things???? Hummmm... maybe that is it??