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I'm beginning to lose my trust in Apple honestly. Falling stock prices, overpriced tariffs for iPhone, iPhone rollout slow, Apple TV Take 2 delayed, no 3G iPhone and all those delays and all. Apple really has to do something WAUW now to make me happy again:(

Maybe getting a different phone/computer would make you happy? Try doing that.
 
I'm beginning to lose my trust in Apple honestly. Falling stock prices, overpriced tariffs for iPhone, iPhone rollout slow, Apple TV Take 2 delayed, no 3G iPhone and all those delays and all. Apple really has to do something WAUW now to make me happy again:(

If this is true, I'm pissed. But I'll take it as a rumor untill March 6th.

-Stock price? How on Earth is this their fault?
-iPhone rollout probably has to do with the carriers. I doubt Apple would deliberately stall, do you?

Quit yer whingin'
 
I'm beginning to lose my trust in Apple honestly. Falling stock prices, overpriced tariffs for iPhone, iPhone rollout slow, Apple TV Take 2 delayed, no 3G iPhone and all those delays and all. Apple really has to do something WAUW now to make me happy again:(

If this is true, I'm pissed. But I'll take it as a rumor untill March 6th.

I would rather them be late and get it right than put a Microsoft-quality product out there.
 
-Stock price? How on Earth is this their fault?
-iPhone rollout probably has to do with the carriers. I doubt Apple would deliberately stall, do you?

Quit yer whingin'

If you don't think it's a company's responsibility to maintain healthy growth in their stock, then I guess it isn't their fault. So when the stock you personally own takes a dive, don't go blaming the company or anything crazy like that!
 
People who think this should have just happened overnight have no idea just how much work goes into something like this. Making a third party software environment that is reliable, consistent, supportable, and secure takes a lot more work that the (admittedly impressive) work that the hacking/hobbyist community has done. If only I had a nickel for every time my Treo 700p crashed or was utterly hosed or unstable because of one garbage app or another. Certainly Apple could adopt the free-for-all model, but Apple prefers a, shall we say, more "refined" experience when it comes to consumer products, especially for its first foray into a major new marketplace. And that necessarily includes the iTunes selection and syncing paradigm.

The comments above (and the couple below this, and probably about 99% of the rest in this thread) typify the reaction by those who have literally no idea just how much work goes into developing such an initiative. I wouldn't go so far as to say "ignorant" or "completely unable to see the big picture beyond what new little icon they'll have on their phone", but close. Apple is taking baby steps here, and an SDK allowing third party development is a massive undertaking if you want to have an element of control over the process, and the beautiful integration people have come to expect, overall, from Apple products.

"What's going on in Cupertino?" Please. You have NO IDEA how many people are working on this, and how high a priority this is for Apple.

I don't doubt that the substance of the above post is correct. No doubt it takes a lot of time and Apple wants to get it right the first time. That is not, however, the issue. The issue is that Apple knows - hopefully better than any person or company in the world - what kind of time they need to roll things out, whether it be a new OS, an Apple TV update, or an SDK.

The issue is that Apple is either intentionally making time-specific promises it knows it can't keep, or it is making proper promises only to be undermined by mismanagement.
 
Apparently you have never worked in a large organization before...

Apparently you have never heard of under-promise and over-deliver. This is not the first time a delay has happened. In fact, over the past 18 months there have been far more delays than on-time releases.

Apple TV- At MWSF Steve said February, Shipped In March
Leopard- At WWDC 2006 said Spring 2007, Shipped October
Macbook Air- Available in 2 Weeks, Not Fulfilled
Final Cut Server- ?

Nobody is saying it shouldn't be solid or that it is an easy thing to do. People are upset that it is later than announced. It doesn't matter how far off it is delayed, point is it is delayed. Even if the final release is next week that still isn't February.
 
SJ & Co LTAO

Ya know, SJ and any Apple ppl who pay attention, to MR and other sites must be ROFLTAO.

One simple invitation for an event a week away, we (followers of Apple) work ourselves into a frenzy of speculation about everything from Apple's demise to their final conquest of the universe... and most points in between.

This "frenzy of speculation" infects UberGeeks and Financial analysts, alike!

It just proves that AAPL is the "Master of Marketing"....

...everybody is talking about it-- even though nobody knows what it is!

ROFLMAO
 
If you don't think it's a company's responsibility to maintain healthy growth in their stock, then I guess it isn't their fault. So when the stock you personally own takes a dive, don't go blaming the company or anything crazy like that!

What are you talking about? :confused:
 
What the heck you guys. You're already getting all over Apple's case because of this RUMOR.

Yes, but with Apple's recent delays it could very well be true. So, instead of giving them the benefit of the doubt, we will be surprised/relieved if it turns out to NOT be true.
 
When did they make the announcement about it coming out in February? Months ago. Everybody should know by now that software is never out on time. It is extremely hard to predict a deadline, and apple aren't ones to rush something out.

Also, what's wrong with a releasing a beta to the developers? The devs are going to have to develop their apps first, so if they release a beta SDK then that gives the devs a chance to get some nice apps out on launch day.
 
When you think about the level of difficulty it is to make a single platform to appease every developers wish, and do it to a degree that makes for the nicest, most seamless user experience possible, who cares if it takes a couple more months.

I keep hearing this argument, but it is not valid. It could very well be delayed AND buggy.
 
When did they make the announcement about it coming out in February? Months ago. Everybody should know by now that software is never out on time. It is extremely hard to predict a deadline, and apple aren't ones to rush something out.

Also, what's wrong with a releasing a beta to the developers? The devs are going to have to develop their apps first, so if they release a beta SDK then that gives the devs a chance to get some nice apps out on launch day.

Jobs made the announcement of the SDK at Macworld in January. Not months ago.
 
I can't wait to have offerings of new apps for my phone, but I am happy because what the phone does now will suit my needs. That's why I bought it. Some people should probably have held off buying one if it they need the phone to do something other than what it does out of the box.

I expect that in order to control the quality and distribution of third party apps, Apple is going to distribute them through iTunes. I expect that they will cost something, too. I have no problem with this since programmers deserve to be paid for their work. I hope the prices are good, though.
 
I'd rather have a beta - or *something* that says what they're going to do - all we have is that Steve likes the Symbian model, but exactly what he likes about it we don't know.. and whether that will coincide with what devs like about it we don't know either.

The SDK could be anything from fully locked down and expensive like the ipod one (so it's frontpage news when someone brings out a single cheesy game for it) or something that lets us write stuff and deploy it relatively freely.. and all points in between. That's the frustrating bit IMO.. no news at all. Personally I'd prefer the freer end so I could continue to knock out useful little apps and give them away.
 
The only people who will care about this are the people who want to fill 45 screens on their phone with apps, and the people who click reload on MacRumors forums every 2 seconds in a thread with dozens of responses about how people are feverishly downloading the 1.1.4 firmware update in the hopes that it has Flash or iChat.


The funniest thing I find about this quote is that you followed up your initial post with a full second post in response to comments TWO minutes later. Someone's refresh button must be worn out...
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3)

A "road map" doesn't just tell you where you are going. It also allows you to look at where you are now in relation to where you started from and where you eventually hope to be...
 
That might be right, but then surely Apple would of known how much work it takes. So why tell people they'll have an SDK in developers hands by February?

They will have it on March 6th. I don't think you will have any actual developers complaining much about this. And if it is a beta version, developers don't care too much. You don't get an SDK today and ship software tomorrow, that takes months. All that developers need is a final SDK before they ship their own software.

What is important is how useful that SDK is. If there are bugs that developers can work around, then it is fine. Even if there are things that can't be worked around, if a developer can finish 90 percent of an application with a beta version, that is much much better than waiting for a final version.
 
Any third party developer that dedicated resources to build new native iPhone apps, via the hacked model, instead of web apps has lost some money now if the "roadmap = not shipping third party apps until June" rumor is true.
 
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