The point is apple can afford to do that with no heat at allSure, I also want a tesla at a price of a Kia.
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'iPhone SE 3' With A14 Bionic Chip and 5G Expected in First Half of 2022
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As we say here : we can't give you the butter and the money for it.Sure, I also want a tesla at a price of a Kia.
What they could have done though, is wait an additional 12 months to release the 12 Mini, brand it as an SE phone instead, and sell it at a lower price (because of course it would have components from last year). They could do that pattern every year and I think we'd have a winner. The first SE phone was basically an iPhone 6S, shaped like a 5S.
They want to discontinue the Mini because apparently it doesn't sell enough for them, but it's a god damn great phone.
Punch Hole Design and Powerbutton that acts as Touch-Id sensor. That would be a nice SE Upgrade.
Apple made the mini to basically increase the ASP of iPhone 12 lineup sales. Apple basically increased the iPhone base price from $699 when iPhone 11 launched to $799 with the iPhone 12. But you didn't even read anybody talk about a price increase. Why? Because Apple smartly made the mini to keep the impression that iPhone starts at $699. Apple probably never meant for the mini to sell very well. They're happy that majority of people ended up spending more money to buy the regular iPhone.
When Apple discontinues the mini, that means the regular iPhone can carry on by itself for the margins that Apple wanted. Apple doesn't care if last year's iPhone is a great phone or not. Apple only cares about price points and ASPs. I mean Apple had no problem discontinuing the X, Xs, and 11 Pro series after a year.
A third of this thread so far: "I wish I could get what they currently sell for $729 for $399 instead!"
You really think that's a realistic price drop?
Maybe two years from now. Usually, prices go down about $100 year-over-year. For example, the iPhone 11 was introduced at $699 and is now $599. The XR was introduced at $749 and is now, after two years, $499.
My guesses for this fall:
Maybe we'll see an SE next year (that seems a bit early), but no way will it be like the 12 mini.
You really think that's a realistic price drop?
Maybe two years from now. Usually, prices go down about $100 year-over-year. For example, the iPhone 11 was introduced at $699 and is now $599. The XR was introduced at $749 and is now, after two years, $499.
My guesses for this fall:
- the XR disappears
- the 11 starts at $499
- the 12 starts at $599, maybe $549
- the 12 mini, Pro, and Pro Max disappear
Maybe we'll see an SE next year (that seems a bit early), but no way will it be like the 12 mini.
For this reason I think it might get the A15 - it's meant to have a more efficient 5G modem, so the should alleviate the battery drain a bit.
The next SE being rumoured to have an A14 chip is very interesting, unless it drops in the next month. Previous SEs used the latest and greatest chip... why would Apple kneecap the SE3 and not give it the A15?
I'll tell you why. Because there won't be an SE3 and the iPhone 12 mini will stick around to occupy that price point in October 2023.
my wife will be happy about this, she was given an iPhone XR to replace her iPhone 8 and she is switching back to her 8 because she hates not having the Touch ID/home button. I know a few others that feel the same.
An iPhone SE with hole punch, TouchID in power button, an A15 processor would be a fantastic phone. It would probably take a lot of sales away from the flagship lineup.
hole punch front camera on an upcoming iphone SE?
Give me a break.
not unless iphone 13 has it first
Give me a break.
not unless iphone 13 has it first
I had an iPhone 8 and then an SE2, and I will say it was nice for my battery case and everyday case to not need replacing.
For as long fanboy plebs keep on giving them their cash for one. Design and poor battery life, but hey, at least it comes with Apple logo
And yet the 2016 SE was essentially a smaller 6S, but the 2016 SE was $399, while the 6S was $649. It certainly is possible, if they just want to give a bit on margins. But instead they overpriced the 12 mini, and wondered why it didn't sell.
You have a valid argument, but AFAIK Apple wants to discontinue the Mini. Apparently they even stopped producing it.
I think they still can - this is for spring 2022, the 13 Mini will have been out for 6 months and the 12 Mini will have been discontinued. Drop the ultra wide camera, and boom you have a solid differentiation between this and the 12/13 Mini, along with the speed differences (A15), wifi differences (6E on the 13), image processing, camera components, probably a brighter screen on the 13, etc.
That’s never going to happen for any SE: SEs are consistently at least one generation/cycle behind in terms of key design elements and a few hardware elements.
The SE got an iPhone 8 design in between 11 and 12. So the best an SE could get post iPhone 12S/13 launch would be something along the lines of XR, X, XS, or 11.
But Apple will not give SEs Face-ID or edge-to-edge until either Face-ID is completely and undeniably overhauled in the flagship iPhones or if some new superior technology replaces Face-ID altogether.
Apple kills sales of its flagships for every competitive spec it gives the SE, so it has to balance it out with an equal amount of subpar specs.
There’s a possibility of a iPhone 11 inspired design for the next SE since the 11 isn’t OLED. But giving us both edge-to-edge display and face-ID at the SE price point would make ab 11, 12, or 12S/13 a really tough sell at $599-$699 or more if SE3 is $399
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I don’t mean this in a hostile or accusatory way, but you’d really switch platforms if Apple ditched Touch ID on iPhones?
From marketing point of view, the reason Apple has iPhone SE is to upsell the mini which features the current gen design and tech. SE is just a repackaged version from previous gen design with current tech.
Screen time on my iPhone declines each year. With Apple Watch and AirPods no need to pull out the iPhone for most calls, directions, Siri commands, hot spot, an ever expanding list. Nice to have a smaller yet powerful iPhone to handle the management without actually looking at the screen. The bonus, cost savings. Times are changing, Apple responding, win win.
A Tesla Model 3 starts at just under $40K and if you qualify for the tax rebates and incentives, that brings it down to mid $30KSure, I also want a tesla at a price of a Kia.
A Kia Stinger starts at $37K.
