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When closed, the size is 4" which we had in iPhone 4S.
That's the display size. It looks to me like the width of the housing of the Xiaomi Mix Flip (closed or open) is close to the width of the iPhone 16 (the actual figures are Xiaomi: 74mm, iPhone 16 (non-Pro): 71.6mm, so the Xiaomi is wider). One of the bigger complaints about larger phones is their width rather than their height, since a wide phone can be harder to hold depending on the size of the user's hands, and hard or impossible for many people, even those with larger hands, to use it with one hand, mostly because they like to tap on the screen using their thumb. But a shorter height can be nice too.
 
Oh, that black was just magic

Such a good looking device
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Black was my favorite for iPhones until one summer some years ago, when I tried using one in my old (1986) former car, installed in a dash mount, as a Maps navigator to get someplace I hadn't been to before, many miles away. My car's previous owner didn't opt for the air conditioning option, so when the sun came in through the windshield and hit my black iPhone, after about 30 minutes it got so hot that it began to fritz out and then shut down, so that I had to pull over for a while to let it cool down before I could proceed. I had to make this trip several times that summer, with the same result each time. After that, I opted for white iPhones, including their cases. My current car is new enough to have air conditioning by default, so I guess I could go back to black now.
 
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Sounds phenomenal --- really kills me they've just made basically everything now be "big", "bigger" and "huge"

Those aren't really "choices" in any meaningful sense

It is sad. People forget that iPhone were only aiming at 10M unit or 1% of the shares. Somewhere along the line selling a mini iPhone for 10-20M unit isn't even enough.
 
When closed, the size is 4" which we had in iPhone 4S.

The external 120Hz screen is brilliant and you can use social media, post comments, write messages, browse, watch YouTube etc. without opening the phone.

Here is how it looks near my iPhone 16.

Im Apple user since end of 90s and the it's the first year where I didn't get the Pro version of an iPhone due to the size and weight which became bigger and bigger as well as dramatic decrease in iOS quality, simplicity and smoothness.

iPhones got ridiculously heavy and huge and I knew that the iPhone 16 will be the last for me after having the iPhone every year since 2007.

So I will continue using the brilliant MacBook Pro M4 Max, iPad Pro, Apple Watch, iMac, Apple TV, Homepods and all other Apple devices I've got.

But the iPhone needs to get a mini or a flip version to have me back.
I sure there is a market for people who want something like it, I’m not one of them and just don’t think it hits the spot for people who want and overall smaller phone. Other than being shorter (only when folded) it is wider, heavier and much thicker than a phone I already think is too big and heavy. Again everyone uses their phone a bit differently, but I'd find flip phones to be even more of a PITA to use one handed if I did need/want to open it. :)
 
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The 12 mini and 12 Pro were essentially the same phone minus 1 camera and LiDAR.

I don’t buy this theory.
That's the exact comparison between the 12 and the 12 Pro; the 12 and the 12 mini were basically the same phone in different sizes. If that theory meant nothing, nobody would have bought the 12 Pro over the 12.
 
what if we wear gloves? Stupid ...
I thought of that after.
LOL

But some people wear face coverings for religious reasons, also when I rode a motorbike and popped intoa shop, i used to keep my helmet on, not that many shops like you doing that these days.
Even so, I still prefer the fingerprint idea and would not buy a phone without one.
 
Then Face ID fails, and a numeric keypad appears onscreen into which you enter your six-digit passcode. If you're wearing gloves, you take off one of your gloves, as you would have to do with Touch ID, to enter your passcode. If you're not wearing gloves since you have no fingers, then you use the tip of your nose. If you don't have a nose, then how do you smell?
Face Id is not for me, I would not buy a phone that don't have fingerprint sensor. I did forget about gloves, mind you.
Saying all of that,I would not spend £400 on a phone
 
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The 14 is the smallest phone on the market right now.

If people left iPhone for Android, they’d be going to larger phones.
i don;lt like these larger phones, when i changed from the Huawei to my Oppo, I hated the larger sizer that all phones had gone to, with the stupid screen ratio, a notch or a pinhole in the screen and load of lenses on the back. I am used to the phone now, but would still prefer a snmaller phone
 
Face Id is not for me, I would not buy a phone that don't have fingerprint sensor. I did forget about gloves, mind you.
Saying all of that,I would not spend £400 on a phone
Think of it this way: the passcode keyboard is like a fingerprint sensor, only it doesn't require a careful placement of your finger, but you do have to hit it six times
 
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That's the exact comparison between the 12 and the 12 Pro; the 12 and the 12 mini were basically the same phone in different sizes. If that theory meant nothing, nobody would have bought the 12 Pro over the 12.
That's exactly what happened; the 12 dramatically outsold the 12 Pro (and the mini, obviously). That's why Apple made sure that the 13 Pro was a much better phone than the 13.

So, no, I disagree. I also think people who want a mini pro phone are an ever smaller group of people.
 
That's exactly what happened; the 12 dramatically outsold the 12 Pro (and the mini, obviously). That's why Apple made sure that the 13 Pro was a much better phone than the 13.

So, no, I disagree. I also think people who want a mini pro phone are an ever smaller group of people.

At this point more people just want a smaller phone.
 
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