Google and Samsung are going 16 GB ram because of the LLM they'll be using on device.
It will be interesting to see what Apple come up with in this regard, maybe I'll be back in the iPhone camp in time for the next phone 😁
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iPhone SE 4 Likely to Feature 8GB of RAM for Apple Intelligence
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It will be interesting to see what Apple come up with in this regard, maybe I'll be back in the iPhone camp in time for the next phone 😁
Presumably the LLM data could be handled by the iPhone using Extended Virtual Addressing
Where are we getting this fact about how Apple Intelligence requiring a minimum of 8GB?
Yes, I get that, so far, the devices that support it all have 8GB RAM or more.
But Apple has not stated Apple Intelligence RAM requirements outright (?) and could be limiting support to 15 Pro/Max and better for no reason (other than incentivizing upgrading).
Is this a fact or just Gurman and his peers guessing?
Yes, I get that, so far, the devices that support it all have 8GB RAM or more.
But Apple has not stated Apple Intelligence RAM requirements outright (?) and could be limiting support to 15 Pro/Max and better for no reason (other than incentivizing upgrading).
Is this a fact or just Gurman and his peers guessing?
Because Apple math states their 8GB = others 16GB /s
Because i don't want my apps to get get memory'd out or refresh in the background when i switch to check another app for example.
Long time apple user - more ram is better.
Why do you not want more ram?
Be specific.
I know. I keep seeing all the time how is impossible to use an Android based smartphone with Mac’s.
Since the SE4 is rumoured to be based on the iPhone 14, I don't see the iPhone 14 staying in the lineup once the SE4 arrives. I think we will see some kind of shakeup of the lineup, rather than direct replacements down the line, but I don't have a good guess at how it will look. But, guessing that new products will be more expensive than we hope, is usually accurate. I'm guessing the SE4 will not be as cheap as the current SE.
It may be that the lineup won't fully make sense until next fall when the rumoured 17 Air shows up. It seems reasonable that adding that phone also requires some sort of modification to the lineup logic.
I would love this phone but cannot wait until next year so will buy the regular 16 next month as an upgrade from my 2020 SE.
It looks like this SE will probably save its owners £300 against a 16 but they will lose one of the rear cameras and the dynamic island.
It looks like this SE will probably save its owners £300 against a 16 but they will lose one of the rear cameras and the dynamic island.
They actually might remove all old models from sale... like you say, it would cause all kinds of issues.
Actually, they did, or at least as close as any Apple exec is going to get:
Apple Explains iPhone 15 Pro Requirement for Apple Intelligence
With iOS 18, iPadOS 18, and macOS Sequoia, Apple is introducing a new personalized AI experience called Apple Intelligence that uses on-device,...
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'Apple Intelligence will generate images (possibly emojis) that may look like your family. We can't wait to see what you create with it'
I would be surprised if the base Macbook does not goes go to at least 12gb of memory. I cannot image it will have the same amount of memory as the iPhone SE, with both being announced around the same time early next year.
It's a reasonable and educated assumption following a fairly straightforward logical argument.
- The iPhone 15 Pro is the only iPhone with 8GB of RAM.
- Apple Intelligence only runs on an iPhone 15 Pro.
- Apple Intelligence runs on all devices with an M1 chip.
- All M1 devices have 8GB of RAM or more.
- The M1 chip has the exact same Neural Engine as the A14 chip running at the same speed.
As for Apple intentionally holding Apple Intelligence back, why just the iPhone? Why not limit it to to M2 or higher iPads and Macs?
This. They have an army of what my dad calls “bean counters” (and that I call “business school classmates”). The cannibalization would be off the charts, and there’s no way it ends up being profit maximizing. Something just isn’t right with this rumor.
On a less important note, it would decimate resale values on older devices. I doubt Apple makes a ton off of their older iPhone refurbs, but they do make some, and this would nuke that business too. Moreover, if you kill trade-in values, it becomes that much harder to step-sell someone to the “Pro” line, so there’s a knock-on sales and profit effect too.
There’s no way this rumor is accurate exactly as written.
Oh I assumed the actual AI stuff was all off-device, because of the 'Private Cloud Compute' things they talked about.
I kind of assumed that any of the large language model / image generation / 'smart' Siri responses will be kicked out to an Apple server farm. While all the normal stuff that Siri already did like setting alarms / telling you the weather is / and things like dictation will still be on-device.
I guess we'll know quite how smart the phone soon is by disabling data connections and seeing what it can still do.
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Such a shame
No smaller version = no interest from me
No smaller version = no interest from me
This is the model I've been waiting for. I had the original and the 2020. It's the perfect phone for bicycling, since it fits sideways in a jersey pocket, and won't fall out when hitting a bump, like a larger phone. And guess what? Yep, it makes phone calls just as well as any other iPhone! The camera is just fine for taking photos no one will ever look at again after you send them to your friends and family. $ave hundred$!
It's been said (rumored) numerous times that the iPhone SE 4 will be priced higher than the current SE's $429 starting price.
I still have my doubts that the SE 4 will be able to run AI. AI should be the differentiator and selling point of the flagship line up (iPhone 16 series) to get people to buy them. This would also let Apple keep the iPhone 14 and/or 15 in the line up for those who don't want/care about AI (I don't).
Reasons for people to buy an iPhone 14 or 15 over an SE 4 would be for things like an extra camera lens and stronger zoom, MagSafe, higher storage capacity (up to 512GB), higher resolution and brighter display, higher capacity battery, etc.
If the base M4 iPad Pro has 8GB memory then a base M4 MacBook Air and Pro can come with 8GB memory like they currently do.
The 256GB and 512GB iPad Pro models are equipped with 8GB RAM, while the 1TB and 2TB models have 16GB RAM. Both models offer 120GB/s memory bandwidth.
The M4 chips in the different storage tiers also vary, with the 256/512GB models offering a 9-core CPU and the 1TB/2TB models equipped with a 10-core CPU. Both models have 10-core GPUs and a 16-core Neural Engine.
Who is the regular iPhone for these days? if the rumours are true then the next SEE will only be lacking the following
- Dynamic island (will use the iPhone 14 notch)
- Brighter display (800 nit typical vs 1000 nit typical for the iPhone 15)
- Wide angle camera (will likely use single camera)
- 48 MP sensor (will likely use 12 MP sensor from iPhone 14)
- 64 GB (vs 128 GB on regular iPhone)
I'm guessing Apple has someone specifically in charge of product differentiation.
At this stage, they have this down to a science where every minute 'feature' can added or removed to boost or lower the value of a particular model.
the base Ipad Pro has 12 GB. Only 8 GB is available to the user so it's likely Apple is reserving that 4 GB for Apple Intelligence https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/do-m4-ipad-pros-with-8gb-of-ram-actually-have-12gb.2426801/
The moment Apple releases the 12 GB RAM M4/M5 Air is the moment I will seriously consider upgrading from my Lenovo.
Kinda tired of all the rumors around this phone 3 years of reports and no pics of the actual phone has been seen 😂🤣