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ick.... I hate those round buttons..

If no headphone jack, Apples not going to bring back hardware to a device just because users complain...

I don't remember Apple ever doing that.... dock connector went.... user brags..... but we get used to be in few months time

The same will be true here.... Maybe a bit longer this time, because unlike a connector on Apple devices only, its a bigger deal with home stereo systems and other stiff that was always like this.

So,, complain more :D
 
Guys - let's say the internal is identical to 6S - except for 4" screen - would that distract people from getting 6S 4.7/5.5?

They've got to cut the leg somewhere.
 
9to5 64gb White please.

Although there is an error here, the 9to5 version had the power button on the side directly opposite the mute switch.
 
I'm for the onleaks version. It's the one that looks most like a 6s but without the power button on the side, I hate this idea, honestly, it wouldn't feel like an iPhone anymore to me.

I loved the 4/4s/5/5s design, but honestly in 2016 I would be annoyed to have an iPhone look like an old iPhone. Also one reason why it possibly won't be the 5s design is because they maybe want people to spend more on accessories again, and not on old, second hand 5s accessories. I hate to say it but I hope Apple thinks the way it always thinks, because I do not want a 5s design.
 
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:eek: no 3.5mm?! that would be odd - requiring new headphone purchase - pushing up the ownership price of a non-high end device?

Why not? They put a lightning port pair of white earbuds in the box, if you want others, you need to get lightning ones.
Guess a case might tell us, but there haven't been any case leaks afaik for the SE.

Going 30pin to lightning required changes... But that change happened. Apple presumably has a decent set of sales data on which groups are buying wireless headphones etc - so they can line up how they do changes.
 
Do most assume the SE won't be the first iPhone with no headphone jack? (mockups show a jack).
Seems that they'd make some profit from putting it in the SE model - plus they draw the sting out of making the transition for the 7 and 7 Pro in the autumn.

I have stated several times that there's a case to be made for releasing this phone with no 3.5mm jack since the internal space is already limited in the 6S (which is why they would most likely drop it), and the 4" phone is even more severely restricted. So it makes far more sense to drop it for this model when trying to squeeze the contents of the 6s into the 5s case.

Plus, it gives them an excellent market on which to test the removal of the headphone jack, as most 4" customers already have a pent up desire to upgrade, so no matter what this new 4" phone has, or doesn't have, there's likely to be a strong market for it.

It gives the market a chance to react and get used to it, but more importantly the manufacturers an opportunity to start gearing up development and production of Lightning and BlueTooth audio products in advance of the iPhone 7 launch, when the availability of those accessories will be critical for widespread adoption.

And it gives Apple a window in which to reverse their decision -- the 7 has most likely been designed with and without the 3.5mm jack. If the market reacts negatively, then there's still time to switch the manufacturing specs.

That said, Apple could be sticking their neck out on the 4" phone, not knowing how well it will sell. If they remove the headphone jack, it might stunt sales and further complicate their status on Wall Street. It could also give the competition a 6 month window in which to prepare for the 7 launch, with marketing campaigns designed to reinforce the Android phones which still have a headphone jack, as well as others that will launch with USB-C standard for connecting headphones, this edging out any chance of Apple getting a foothold in with Lightning.

And there's another consideration -- if this really is going to be a lower-priced entry level phone, or intended to be one next year in emerging markets, then they aren't going to want to remove the 3.5mm headphone jack for a customer group who can't really afford BT headphones as it is, nor to adopt the latest Lightning gear, at least until the prices start dropping significantly once demand increases after the 3.5mm jack is removed.

Given Apple's usual pattern, I'd say they will withhold releasing any major new changes until they are ready to release their latest flagship product, then subsequent refreshes will drop the jack.

Guys - let's say the internal is identical to 6S - except for 4" screen - would that distract people from getting 6S 4.7/5.5?

Why? If someone wants a larger screen, why would they chose a smaller screened device? How would that distract them? For those undecided, it gives them a chance to try them all out and the cards fall where they may.
 
Why not? They put a lightning port pair of white earbuds in the box, if you want others, you need to get lightning ones.
Guess a case might tell us, but there haven't been any case leaks afaik for the SE.

Going 30pin to lightning required changes... But that change happened. Apple presumably has a decent set of sales data on which groups are buying wireless headphones etc - so they can line up how they do changes.

Objectively - if they replace 3.5 with lightening - with pure digital out - it could perhaps results in better audio quality? great if possible. Though not sure if that more price sensitive category is also the people who demands massive SQ quality.

You won't be able to charge & listen to music at same time though (without a spilter?) - which without wireless charging (not gonna happen?) is a minus.

Slightly worried about the increased single point of failure - 3.5mm is probably less reliable - but without it, if you break the audio port you also break the charging port.
 
I would like if it was exactly the square style with glass on front and back like the iPhone 4 but as thin as the iPhone 6.
Yes! Perfection. I have yet to see a phone design better looking than the 4/4s. I really dislike the flattened marshmallow, bulgy sides look of the current 6/6s models.
 
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Shut up and take my money if it's gonna be the middle version. I do not want sharp edges any more.

Still curious as to why we haven't seen ANY leaks, yet.
 
You won't be able to charge & listen to music at same time though (without a spilter?) - which without wireless charging (not gonna happen?) is a minus.

A slim-line pass through connector is all that is required, technology that has been around since electricity was invented.

Slightly worried about the increased single point of failure - 3.5mm is probably less reliable - but without it, if you break the audio port you also break the charging port.

Well that's been possible since the iPod was invented, first with Firewire, 30-pin dock, and now Lightning. I'd be surprised if merely using the Lightning port for headphones will jeopardize it any more than using it with the current official Apple dock solutions in which the iPhone sits suspended above a pedestal base upon a single Lightning connector.

And frankly, the latest MacBook runs this risk in spades, having only one port for everything a person might want to plug into it. And USB-C is not nearly as robust a physical connector as is Lightning. There are YouTube videos where people have demonstrated forcing the Apple Pencil beyond its flex point, which results in the destruction of the pencil, not the iPad port. So that's reassuring. I'm certain Apple put the Lightning connector through its paces before choosing it to replace 30-pin Lightning.
 
Something else to consider, if Apple was going to change the design either curved glass or thinner body then the old 5s cases won't fit the new 5se BUT we have NOT seen any new cases pop up designed for the 5se.
 
I won't be, i have a 6s plus.
which mans purse do you recommend for it?
[doublepost=1456798209][/doublepost]the best is the 5s design; never change/break the best there is;
I hate my 6s curved edges horrible; Can't wait for the SE (special edition) for us that are special
 
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Why not? They put a lightning port pair of white earbuds in the box, if you want others, you need to get lightning ones.
Guess a case might tell us, but there haven't been any case leaks afaik for the SE.

Going 30pin to lightning required changes... But that change happened. Apple presumably has a decent set of sales data on which groups are buying wireless headphones etc - so they can line up how they do changes.

Remember all the FUD'ing and tedious drama queening that happened when lightning port replaced 30-pin dock? Remember all the predictable hysteria over iOS 7? I expect all the vision-less past-clinging luddites are already rehearsing their tantrum rants :D


Anyone fancy a break? I'm off for a cuppa FireWire and a floppy sandwich.
 
I won't be, i have a 6s plus.
Cool bro. Sounds like a sweet use of time reading/commenting on articles you don't care about.
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which mans purse do you recommend for it?
[doublepost=1456798209][/doublepost]the best is the 5s design; never change/break the best there is;
I hate my 6s curved edges horrible; Can't wait for the SE (special edition) for us that are special
Haha. Don't worry about this guy, he is Trolly McTrollerson
 
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As for me,
I love understatement design and decent ergonomy.

As the "old" iP 5 (I use two of them) form factor is perfect for my needs,
I just. want more security (= privacy) both on a hardware and software basis.
The SE looking the most possible like an "old" iPhone 5 would be perfect for me.... Less risk about thiefs, I 'd like also the
People around always think I am a poor sort of guy not being able to purchase the latest-cry iPhone.
Would save me also some time because nobody would like tomtalk with me about the latest iPhone....

A really perfect world - just good, solid tech inside and a perfect form factor outside...

I also hate the new iPhone design with its childish car-Rallye-stripes a No-Go for me...
 
So what happens if this is all just a rumor and there is no 5se? It's weird there have been no cases and very few if one supposedly display shot of the 5se.
 
All of those look real bad compared to the Galaxy S7
since when the Galaxy S7 is a 4" device ?

The iconic look (9tomac version) is better than copying Samsung with the other two versions but Apple really needs a major redesign and without the c-section lines on the back. Hoping for something new soon to put my Apple gift card to use.
Apple copying Samsung ? lol .... in which parallel dimension ?
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Am I the only one that absolutely detests the name "iPhone SE"?

Like, please, if it's taking design cues from the iPhone 6, name it iPhone 6e or something.

It's almost as dumb as "The New iPad".
No you are not the only one.
I still hope Apple is going to call it another name (iPhone Mini ?) ...

But SE is much better than call an iPhone in 2016 5SE ...

I like any version that puts the sleep/power button back on top...
On a 4" device you are right.
 
I never realized how much I enjoyed the power button on top. Almost every time I adjust the volume buttons on my 6s I always hit the power button off. I absolutely hate it on the side. I can understand it on the 6s plus but don't feel it was necessary on the 6s.
 
The curved version is an exact copy of the iPhone 6. Onleaks made a mix between iPhone 5s and 6 (6 case with 5s volume buttons). 9to5mac is a 5s.

So the question is, where exactly did the creators of these mockups copy from Samsung?
 
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