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Rose gold, not unsurprisingly, is the least popular iPhone SE in this special clearance.
 
They just seem exceedingly erratic.

That's exactly their reaction: Erratic... and it blatantly shows.
They are putting out fires with whatever is at hand because they thought they could get away with anything.
Like I said, I hope that they learn something from this and what people is actually willing to pay for their devices in contrast to what they offer.
 
The SE is a great little phone, but it is important to note these phones on sale are the A1662 models NOT A1723. Depending on your carrier and international travel frequency, this could be an important factor to consider.

Actually, I bought it because it supports The GSM I need here and the CDMA I need in the USA.
 
The SE is a great little phone, but it is important to note these phones on sale are the A1662 models NOT A1723. Depending on your carrier and international travel frequency, this could be an important factor to consider.

Wait, does that mean this phone WON'T work on Sprint!?

Edit: ***Nevermind, just found this on the internet:
"A1662 models have support for all the LTE bands used by Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile. This includes Band 13, used by Verizon, and Band 29, used by AT&T; the A1723 is lacking these. Both the A1662 and A1723 support Band 12, used by T-Mobile, which the iPhone 5S was lacking.

The A1723 has all the bands used by Sprint, including the high-speed “Spark” Band 41. The A1662 does not include Band 41 support; it will work with Sprint on LTE, just not optimally.

A1723 models also have some international roaming bands that are missing from the A1662, such as Band 7, used in Canada and other countries. The A1662 will get LTE signal globally, just not with maximum speeds.
 
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Apple would be a fool to not release an updated SE. I mean look at how quickly they have sold out on the clearance page. Granted, I'm not sure how many Apple is making available, but still.
 
Must of sold out quick, iPhone is grayed out for me on the clearance page.

Only the 32Gb options are greyed out. I just checked right now and the 128Gb are not greyed out.

***1045AM CST: Gold is now gone.
 
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and now all the SE are sold out again.

I bagged a 128 GB SE. Question is, is $99 Applecare worth it for a $299 iPhone?

Am I correct in remembering that the SE has a clean reliability record?
 
and now all the SE are sold out again.

I bagged a 128 GB SE. Question is, is $99 Applecare worth it for a $299 iPhone?

Am I correct in remembering that the SE has a clean reliability record?

I believe we have 60 days to decide about adding Apple Care.

I’m wondering the same thing. I’ve been personally involved with 3 SEs, and none have had any warranty issues at all.

I think I will wait as long as possible before adding it to this new phone, to see if Apple releases an SE 2 during that time (March event). If they do, then I don’t know about investing more into what will basically be my backup/foreign travel phone.
 
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Am I correct in remembering that the SE has a clean reliability record?

For the most part yes. There's one glaring issue that seems to be common that my wife has experienced and been confirmed on the forums -- do not use a TPU case on your phone! (those plasticky-rubbery cases) There is a very high failure rate of the top button in phones with a TPU case.
 
scored a 128GB space grey last night and just got shipment notice. Anybody from the first two rounds know what version iOS is on these?
 
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scored a 128GB space grey last night and just got shipment notice. Anybody from the first two rounds know what version iOS is on these?

It’s gonna have an old OS, however during setup you will be required to update to the latest version of iOS.
 
DAMN IT!! I missed it! Any hope that it will be back up??
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and now all the SE are sold out again.

I bagged a 128 GB SE. Question is, is $99 Applecare worth it for a $299 iPhone?

Am I correct in remembering that the SE has a clean reliability record?

I've had mine for over 2 years and it's been perfect. Applecare is a waste for this if you ask me.
 
That's exactly their reaction: Erratic... and it blatantly shows.
They are putting out fires with whatever is at hand because they thought they could get away with anything.
Like I said, I hope that they learn something from this and what people is actually willing to pay for their devices in contrast to what they offer.
I know you’re just trying to support your narrative that Apple has failed, but you have to ask yourself why they haven’t lowered prices in the US, Canada, Western Europe, etc.

Why not? Because those countries just set revenue records.

They lowered prices in China and some emerging markets where the currency has collapsed.

iPad just grew 17%, services 20%, wearables 33% and Mac 10%.

iPhone struggled in China and emerging markets, so they have responded there.

In a global business, not every data point means the strategy has worked or failed. You change for the market. The US is doing quite well, showing growth.
 
Rose Gold 128 still available. Maybe I’ll get lucky and actually check Mac Rumors when they announce a fourth batch: any color but Rose Gold.

My commute is starting to call for a phone with a headphone jack (No Bluetooth for me).
 
DAMN IT!! I missed it! Any hope that it will be back up??

The way they've been popping up, and then disappearing, would make it seem like they're selling out about as fast as they're getting added to the clearance section. So it makes sense to keep checking over and over, as often as you can.
 
I do not get why is soo special about SE? It is a tiny phone that is not even suitable for kids anymore.
Yes, it is exceedingly clear that you do not get what is special about the SE. Your characterization of the size is laughable. Many adults find the SE size is precisely what they want, despite your assertion that it's "not even suitable for kids anymore". Should adults be cowed into buying larger phones than they want, just because *you* don't find the SE size useful?
 
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I know you’re just trying to support your narrative that Apple has failed, but you have to ask yourself why they haven’t lowered prices in the US, Canada, Western Europe, etc.

Why not? Because those countries just set revenue records.

They lowered prices in China and some emerging markets where the currency has collapsed.

iPad just grew 17%, services 20%, wearables 33% and Mac 10%.

iPhone struggled in China and emerging markets, so they have responded there.

In a global business, not every data point means the strategy has worked or failed. You change for the market. The US is doing quite well, showing growth.

"Apple has failed" narrative? Where did you read that in my posts? I've actually posted that I hope that they learn from their mistakes, because lately they seem to f*** things up constantly as well as not listening to their users. But they aren't broke... far from it. They are just not great anymore, they are greedy. That's what actually bothers me because they used to be a top quality company and now they are not. A lot of people have pointed out that fact to you and you still insist that they are a rich a company and that no one should question their practices because they know what's right for you and we all should accept that. That's all you repeat in your posts. But guess what? They are just following the rest while charging more than the rest just because they are flashing that logo on every device they come up with.
A lot of us have invested for a long time in their products -and probably way more than you- because those products were actually good, un-bloated, straight to the point, excelled in performance, well designed, functional and executed with taste. We are disappointed now because they seem to choose only two or three characteristics from that list now. Don't you get it?
 
Might you or someone else be able to offer an explanation for this? -- the performance boost of iOS 12 specifically targeted most legacy of iPhones.

I mean, the popular posit on the forum is that of "Planned Obsolescence" - which should have meant that Apple knee capped the 5S and SE, locking them onto iOS 11. Then extolled the superiority of iOS 12, allowing others to show the performance advantage of moving to new phone hardware. But they didn't. Instead, Apple kicked out the literal tentpole of Planned Obsolescence. Seemingly these are 'good will' actions that Apple took in wake of "ThrottleGate" but will cost them 100's of -B-illions of dollars. Not to mention that so many got 'genuine apple' battery replacements at an unbeatable price. Extending legacy phone useage even further. And even if you exclude the 5S and SE from iOS 13 you've only just locked them to an excellent OS version. Not to mention that iOS 12 improved performance across all iPhones.

Seriously, Apple could have just claimed mea culpa, offered a lame excuse, provided the toggle, locked the 5S and SE to iOS 11, and continued on with the clandestine operation of Planned Obsolescence.…

IMO -- These aren't the actions of a company that considers its customers the 'lol sheeple' that the rest of the likes of pundits, Louis Rossman, this forum, fandroids, or genuine Apple critics consider them to be. But, I don't know if they're entirely benevolent or genuine, either. They just seem exceedingly erratic.
Perhaps Apple believe that the way to maximize profits over the long term is to satisfy their customers.

Seriously, how many of the planned obsolescence theorists here believe that Apple would sell more new phones by degrading the user experience on current phones?

What real-life person would actually think, “I’ve had this iPhone only two years, and already I’m starting to hate using it! I can’t wait to buy another so I can look forward to reliving this aggravation in another year or two!”

Sure, there are plenty of companies that do anything they can to maximize short-term profits, even at the expense of poisoning their own wells. Sometimes these are companies who genuinely care about their customers but don’t have much cash on hand and are afraid of being taken over, and are trying to build their reserves as quickly as possible, sacrificing customer satisfaction in the short term in the desperate hope of long term respite.

Often, they’re companies owned by shareholders looking a quick buck, run by executives whose bonuses are tied to maximizing quarterly profits and who are quite happy to strip-mine their company of its goodwill in order to bail out with the most heavily gold-laden parachute they can before their company sinks beneath the waves. (How’s that for mixing metaphors!)

Humor aside, Apple is in neither of those positions. It’s been years since they had the slightest fear of a hostile takeover or of going under, and Apple’s shareholders have been overwhelmingly supportive of Apple’s current management.

There’s a very strong case to be made that Apple got to be the world’s most profitable company by taking extraordinary pains to give their customers a great experience (not that they always succeed, of course, and when they fall short, we MacRumors readers can be counted upon to point out their shortcomings), and that the customer loyalty Apple have built up over many years as a result is a large part of Apple’s success.

Apple may simply believe that making their customers happy with their current Apple products is more likely to make them want to buy new or upgraded Apple products in the future.
 
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If the SE had 3D Touch I would easily consider it as Apple’s best phone.

Either way, it’s an incredibly fast and reliable phone, at a perfect size and great price.
[doublepost=1549070403][/doublepost]Perfect size? I used one last night deciding if I wanted to use it seeing it was just laying around the house as my s9 plus came in today. But anyways it handled great, fast, bright clean. . . .Everything about it was impressive except THE SCREEN SIZE I couldn't do it.
 
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