A lot of people. It's almost certainly the next phone for both my mother and my mother-in-law, both are each still using a 6, and it or its successor honestly may be my next phone too. I have an 8 now and while I like the bigger screens of the newer models I still like touchid more than faceid. My 8 is still solid for now, so it isn't getting replaced yet, but when it does get replaced a phone like this may be more appealing to me
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iPhone SE Plus Postponed Until Second Half of 2021
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A lot of people. It's almost certainly the next phone for both my mother and my mother-in-law, both are each still using a 6, and it or its successor honestly may be my next phone too. I have an 8 now and while I like the bigger screens of the newer models I still like touchid more than faceid. My 8 is still solid for now, so it isn't getting replaced yet, but when it does get replaced a phone like this may be more appealing to me
I’d like to think they are using the extra time to add a headphone jack but that’s probably just wishful thinking. Oh well, I see android phones in my future. ☹️ It would take sooooo little to retain soooo many customers. Apple is self destructively arrogant.
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Because everybody wants a phone so thin it bends when you pocket it, right? The kind of phone that gets dropped all the time because there isn’t enough of it to hold onto, right?
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But they don’t make bigger phones. They make the screen bigger but the thickness gets reduced leaving if anything less room for battery.
Because everybody wants a phone so thin it bends when you pocket it, right? The kind of phone that gets dropped all the time because there isn’t enough of it to hold onto, right?
Like many others have already said, this makes no sense. An SE Plus is a 5.5” 8 Plus with large top/bottom bezels, updated with an A13, wireless charging, WiFi 6, 4GB etc.
It’s a $499 phone, unless the 4.7” SE (2nd gen) drops to $349, in which case it’ll be $449. Released sometime around next March.
It’s a $499 phone, unless the 4.7” SE (2nd gen) drops to $349, in which case it’ll be $449. Released sometime around next March.
The thing is I doubt it's users wanting TouchID per se but rather wanting the Home button because they don't want to have to learn the new gestures inherent with no Home button. Also, could be just folks who are adamantly against the notch or want the 16:9 aspect ratio.
A complete redesign for the SE seems to me the worst of both worlds.
I don't know about that. They sold a lot of SE 1's when it had current specs but then didn't update it for 4 years so of course the market share fell.
In my world lots of people have SEs and have been holding them until a refresh, sad that that will never come.
It is the emphasis on the "smart" rather than the "phone" part of smartphones.
These devices stopped being phones you could hold in one hand and became the latest iteration of the personal computer several years ago.
The most appealing thing about the SE was the small size and a headphone jack. Personally, the new one is pointless.
Agreed, but it won't. I had the same thought passing on the XR and waiting for the 11. The display on the Plus series wont be repeated due to downsampling it has to do. I think the best evidence for this is Apples decision to make the XR and 11 828p, 326ppi.
To not have a large LCD iphone with 401ppi in the line up today, and with the SE Plus (8 Plus design) now a no show in 2020 is gutting. The XR and 11 don't appeal due to the under 1080p and narrower display. Now they're planning a weird budget 11 hybrid design in 2021 instead - waaaaa? So it's going to go head to head with a priced dropped 11 and the new 12. Ok?
Wasn't the SE Plus (8 Plus design) at the factory but had some delay? Now it's been cancelled for 2020? Thanks Jon P.
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I can’t see Apple putting Touch ID in the power switch. It just doesn’t work ergonomically. Combined with the chance of accidentally turning your phone off when signing into apps, making purchases, etc.
This might be almost the perfect phone for me. I have an XR, and I hate the narrower screen and notch (both because I browse the web in landscape mode). I prefer touch ID to faceID. Not having a home button isn't horrible, but the new gestures to get around that are pretty clunky and it just works better with a home button. The SE that just came out is too small for me, but an 8+ sized phone with modern parts would be great.
If only it would have a headphone jack
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If only it would have a headphone jack
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I 100% agree!
I was hoping to see the SE Plus this year, but being that they’re going to delay it by a year and a half, they’ll hopefully put an A14 (or even an A15, since it’s co-released with 2021 flagships) instead of the A13.
The one thing that would hold me back from getting the SE Plus if it was released now is that it would have the Intel-only A13 chip.
My iPhone 8 Plus was bought carrier-unlocked, directly from Apple, guaranteeing I have the Qualcomm chip. (For the A11 chip, if it works with Verizon’s CDMA network, it had to be Qualcomm, even though I’m using it on AT&T. The GSM only chip was Intel).
It would be great to have the same phone with upgraded internals.
You have to understand that the SE isn't about careful market considerations and meeting niche demands. This is only about reusing parts and production lines for the old model to squeeze the most out of R&D costs. Just lower the price and enough people will eat it up. Offering the SE is basically free for Apple.
This is Wong. What do you mean 2H 21? Jon Prosser said it was delayed from March to next year just days ago!. This cant be right!
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Seriously thousands if not millions buy into his iPhone SE plus was coming, then not coming, then delaying to 1H21, when is he going to suggest the same that it is going to delay into 2H21 just like Ming said?
The argument for delaying it could be due to the current economic climate. iPhone 5G was suppose to be the super cycle, when people upgrade they want to buy 5G ( regardless of whatever that mean to each and everyone ) so they are better "equipped" for the future.
The problem is we are very likely heading into the largest recession ever seen since 1950s. So the dynamic changes.
I would imagine in 2021, they will introduce "6" new iPhone.
iPhone Pro
iPhone 13
iPhone SE
With 2 Size for each category. Where the Pro and 13 are refinement from 2020. SE will introduce a slightly new design that has Touch ID in power button and forgo the Home Button. Making the top and bottom chin slightly smaller.
Their 2021 iPhone Slogan - A new iPhone for everyone.
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Seriously thousands if not millions buy into his iPhone SE plus was coming, then not coming, then delaying to 1H21, when is he going to suggest the same that it is going to delay into 2H21 just like Ming said?
The argument for delaying it could be due to the current economic climate. iPhone 5G was suppose to be the super cycle, when people upgrade they want to buy 5G ( regardless of whatever that mean to each and everyone ) so they are better "equipped" for the future.
The problem is we are very likely heading into the largest recession ever seen since 1950s. So the dynamic changes.
I would imagine in 2021, they will introduce "6" new iPhone.
iPhone Pro
iPhone 13
iPhone SE
With 2 Size for each category. Where the Pro and 13 are refinement from 2020. SE will introduce a slightly new design that has Touch ID in power button and forgo the Home Button. Making the top and bottom chin slightly smaller.
Their 2021 iPhone Slogan - A new iPhone for everyone.
I feel that with almost 1 billion active iPhone users, the needs of Apple's user base is more diverse than it has ever been, and so we see Apple doing their best to cater to as many users as possible while still keeping their offerings slim.Bring Steve Back,
Remove all the clutter
Make 3 phones, same general specs, small, medium and large.
I wonder just how many people are on the newer iPhones and how many are holding on to their home buttons because they find the concept of Face ID alienating. If there are enough people still on their plus devices, I won't be surprised if Apple does eventually roll out an updated 8+ just to keep them happy.
Apple seemingly wants different options at different price points. I do not believe Apple will go back to the “old“ way of selling.Bring Steve Back,
Remove all the clutter
Make 3 phones, same general specs, small, medium and large.
Yes, this rumor cannot be right. 18 months later this would be dated phone. Something else is going on to delay this much... basically canceling this model.
You'd think when they dropped the headphone jack they replace it with something else. Why not have two lightning ports or a usb-c and a lightning port for headphones. Oh wait, they want you to use wireless buds all the time. Well then why not then get rid of all ports and require wireless charging and require wireless buds.
I saw "SE Plus" and thought "better"...i.e. smaller....Score! But, alas, "SE" now means "big" and SE Plus means "way too big"