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I'm glad I was able to get mine from the Apple Store on launch day. I went with a friend to the local AT&T store yesterday. He wanted to get the SE on AT&T's installment plan. They too had a limited stock. My friend got a gold 16 gb. He previously had a 5s on their installment plan and getting the SE actually lowered his monthly payments by $7. For many people, getting the SE will be a no-brainer. It has the guts of the 6s for a remarkably low price. And it fits much more comfortably in a pocket.
 
I think that Apple miss-read the market. They thought the SE would be selling mostly on price and therefore skewed production heavily in favor of the 16 GB models.
The short supply of the larger memory models is caused because the majority of customers are looking for a top end device in a smaller size and don't mind spending more. This type of customer would lean heavily towards the larger memory models.
 
In itself, iPhone SE availability does not really contradict these analyst claims. It's possible that Apple is just optimizing supply chain management. It probably does not make sense for them to spike production for such low key product for, say, a month when they can spread it over four months. And of course, SE might be selling very well although there is absolutely no indications in favor of this notion (apart from Apple Store delays)
I think the point is that analysts seem to have a very different view of what constitutes a hit with Apple products than they do with products from other companies (and, granted, that's partially Apple's fault. It became de rigueur, under Steve, to create a buzz, release the product in stores with free tee shirts, and generally make it an event). It's rather like expecting every movie from a particular film studio to be a blockbuster, with long lines, sold-out theaters, and huge box office numbers. Then claiming that a smaller, lower-budge movie, which didn't reach that lofty goal has failed. I mean, it's fine to have huge expectations for something new and highly anticipated, but for a different sized iPhone?

So, the question, to me, isn't whether the analysts are right/wrong about sales here. But whether they had realistic expectations in the first place. Even if Apple didn't create a huge supply (and why would they?), and, thus, didn't anticipate the demand, this little phone can still be considered a success given that it is just another iPhone. It's like some small, lower-budget sequel movie that's doing unexpectedly well at the box office. It's still a win even if it doesn't match up with the big blockbuster or isn't being shown in as many theaters.

If all analysts expect from Apple product launches are those long-line-event-hits, then their claims must needs be suspect. Because not every product launch from Apple is going to net that. Something can be a success if it's in demand and selling well--and didn't cost all that much to produce.
 
To be fair, there are people who don't put much on their phones at all. ... Why should they pay more for storage they'll never use?

You do know that a 16 GB increase costs $9 retail, or at Apple's bulk level, may be $1 at most to make a base model at 32 GB or even 64 GB.

Do you think Apple will dare to build a base model MacBook at 64 GB? The increments there are more expensive.
 
SE is perfect for some but its sales are very slow. Here is a link to a recent report on SE sales. Quote:

Despite the high stability of the phone, overall adoption has been slow. Our data corroborates previous reports, including Localytics report of 0.1% adoption for the weekend. Our figures show the adoption one week in at 0.14% and two weeks in at 0.26%, but still very lackluster compared to previous iPhone launches.

Hm, that definitely changes perceptions on things. I think them releasing it midseason and not in the Fall when people's contracts and leases were finishing up may have had an impact on those low figures. Thanks for the info!
 
I'd be very wary of getting the 16Gb version of this phone. You will probably get a little over 12Gb usable given you lose some to formatting and obviously to iOS itself. If you intend on doing 4k video, that will go very quickly, and even with the new 12MP shooter, and live photos turned on - its going to be tight! And that's without apps, music etc.
I have the 16GB, and yes, you are correct. Do not get the 16GB with the intent of taking advantage of the nice fancy camera the phone comes with. What's worse, your friends with fancy iPhones will keep sending you very high MB pictures in iMessage that'll fill it up fast too. You really have to be good at managing and purging data to use a 16GB Apple device.
 
The reason there is a shortage of supplies might as well be that that they aren't producing that many.

Just because there is a shortage doesn't mean that demand is huge.

Remember that this was a marketing tactic Steve Jobs admittedly used for the release of the very first iPhone (or maybe it was the iPod).

Note: I'm not saying that this is the case, I'm just saying that it's hard to know without sales figures.
 
I think the point is that analysts seem to have a very different view of what constitutes a hit with Apple products than they do with products from other companies (and, granted, that's partially Apple's fault. It became de rigueur, under Steve, to create a buzz, release the product in stores with free tee shirts, and generally make it an event). It's rather like expecting every movie from a particular film studio to be a blockbuster, with long lines, sold-out theaters, and huge box office numbers. Then claiming that a smaller, lower-budge movie, which didn't reach that lofty goal has failed. I mean, it's fine to have huge expectations for something new and highly anticipated, but for a different sized iPhone?

So, the question, to me, isn't whether the analysts are right/wrong about sales here. But whether they had realistic expectations in the first place. Even if Apple didn't create a huge supply (and why would they?), and, thus, didn't anticipate the demand, this little phone can still be considered a success given that it is just another iPhone. It's like some small, lower-budget sequel movie that's doing unexpectedly well at the box office. It's still a win even if it doesn't match up with the big blockbuster or isn't being shown in as many theaters.

If all analysts expect from Apple product launches are those long-line-event-hits, then their claims must needs be suspect. Because not every product launch from Apple is going to net that. Something can be a success if it's in demand and selling well--and didn't cost all that much to produce.

Another way to look at it: the analysts perspective and customer perspective on what constitutes success for a given product are very different and in many cases they should be. For financial analysts, the only way to looks at the success of Apple product launch is to evaluate its impact on Apple profits. It looks like the consensus (among the analysts) is that there won't be much impact. That's all there is. It has no bearing on the benefits to iPhone users (and many wanted small iPhone, got it and are very happy)
 
There's also all sorts of demand for simplification of the current product lines.

Don't confuse postings at tech and fan sites with the desires of the public at large.

Wait, are you saying the public at large is demanding a simplification of the current product lines?

64 gbs in stock in NYC area, in-store pickup TODAY

Time to start checking the LA area stores again. They've been completely sold out for two weeks.
 
Another way to look at it: ... For financial analysts, the only way to looks at the success of Apple product launch is to evaluate its impact on Apple profits. It looks like the consensus (among the analysts) is that there won't be much impact. ...

^^^This

The APPL valuation has nothing to do with the short term.

The problem, as I see it, is that APPL has morphed into a "value stock", moving away from an earlier "growth stock". Thus, APPL stock appears mired in neutral, experiencing only short-term knee-jerks.

If you belief that this condition is only temporary, and not just a loll (and you have cojones), then it is an opportunity to buy big into the stock.
 
You - "Hi Apple - I'm here for an SE"
Apple - "Sorry, we are all out" (Snickering... we only make 10 per week)
Apple - "However we have the 6S in stock? How many would you like? They''re going fast!!"
 
Wait, are you saying the public at large is demanding a simplification of the current product lines?
No, sorry if I was misunderstood.

I was saying that there are significant constituencies on web sites like this for BOTH simplification and expansion of the product lines.

I don't think the general public is demanding either option. As Steve Jobs used to say (more or less), "The public doesn't know what it wants until you show it to them."
 
It's a GREAT deal, so long as one can live with a 4" screen.

Lives with ????
Try wanted. It fits in my pockets easily, it fits in my hand easily, I can use it one handed when needed. for me it is the perfect size. I had been holding off replacing my 5S because the 6/6S were too big.

Got mine within house of being available.
 
To those searching for one, check your local Best Buy. I had good luck at mine, and while they only had a few 64GB models, they had all four colors in 16GB. They also price match Apple.
They will not price match Apple especially if you are paying in full. The extra $50 they charge is their profit on the device otherwise they would be taking a loss if they didn't. This is all according to a manager at a Best Buy when I attempted to purchase an SE at full price from them.
 
Yet the stock was down over 2% on Friday and is down again 1.6% today because of sell-side analyst reports claiming iPhone sales are crap and the June quarter is going to be a disaster. :confused:

It'd be a disaster if Apple didn't sell as well as everyone hoped. "Apple are doomed, they only sold 80 billion iPhones".

Yet if you remove ALL of the money Apple make from the iPhone they'd still be rich enough to appear in the FTSE 100 (if they were a British company)...
 
Wow, my wife and I were going to stop by the Apple store in our hometown when we visit in a month to trade in her iPhone 5 and get her an iPhone SE. Figured by now things would have died down. Hopefully things are good by this time next month. I also hope for the sake of my Apple stock that the SE isn't cannibalizing the 6s and just bringing in mostly new customers or customers who have been holding out for hope like my wife.
 
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