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And the 6S Plus is clearly the flagship for Apple. It has the better specs and it's the one that's promoted the most. It's their flagship model dude.
I've never seen a Plus promotion dude, where did you get that it is the most promoted? The 17" MacBook Pro also had the best specs, the biggest screen and the highest price. Was it Apples flagship notebook? Nope! The 13" MacBook Air showed the way in form factor design. The 15" MacBook Pro was the first to go Retina. The 17" ended up being discontinued. Optical Image Stabilization doesn't make a flagship phone, otherwise there is virtually no difference between the 6s and 6s Plus. Phablets account for only up to 20% of all smartphone sales. Put the newest tech in an iPhone SE and you could as well declare that to be the flagship. That wouldn't be any more ridiculous than hyping the Plus with this meaningless title.
 
I've never seen a Plus promotion dude, where did you get that it is the most promoted? The 17" MacBook Pro also had the best specs, the biggest screen and the highest price. Was it Apples flagship notebook? Nope! The 13" MacBook Air showed the way in form factor design. The 15" MacBook Pro was the first to go Retina. The 17" ended up being discontinued. Optical Image Stabilization doesn't make a flagship phone, otherwise there is virtually no difference between the 6s and 6s Plus. Phablets account for only up to 20% of all smartphone sales. Put the newest tech in an iPhone SE and you could as well declare that to be the flagship. That wouldn't be any more ridiculous than hyping the Plus with this meaningless title.

As we speak I am sipping coffee admiring the optical image stabilized pics on my 6s plus (which look beautiful on this 5.5 inch display). I am enjoying my flagship and hope Apple continues to sensibly put the best specs in the best phones they produce.
 
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As we speak I am sipping coffee admiring the optical image stabilized pics on my 6s plus (which look beautiful on this 5.5 inch display). I am enjoying my flagship and hope Apple continues to sensibly put the best specs in the best phones they produce.
Apple only produces best quality flagship components and than keeps selling and reusing them for years to come. Optical image stabilization probably did nothing to improve your 6s plus photos, it's for shaky videos only. Don't be surprised and spit your coffee if 6s and SE photos look exactly like yours when you put them next to each other on the same big screen. And by "big" I mean a Retina iMac not a phablet.
 
Optical image stabilization probably did nothing to improve your 6s plus photos, it's for shaky videos only.

Uh. No. That wouldn't even make sense, since the 6 Plus had OIS, but didn't have it for video.
 
... and no bend-gate! Not slippery as an eel either. Solid body. I love the round buttons on the thick spine.

Next week there will be media posts of idiots at Apple store trying to bend the iPhone SE to prove it does not bend.

If the iPhone 7, about five short months away is thinner than the iPhone 6s, bending will be a problem even in decent cases, not necessarily when sat upon while in a pant pocket. A thicker and more stout case defeats the engineering behind the big bucks spent on a slim device.

How thin will Apple go? Formula 1 has shown that those batteries can be very light, and every day research will yield a more capable, thinner battery. So, credit card thin or paper thin! Wrong direction.

Hey, bud there was no "bend gate" except in the mind of people who like youtube clowns
Apple didn't change the 6 and sold 250M of the original Iphone 6 design without any change and you didn't hear a peep about it beyond the first 2 weeks of clown action.
The current 6s is even tougher.
You know what also bends if you put 200 pounds of force on a tiny spot, car doors and even airplane parts; guess they all "failed" hey.
 
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Is the 16 gb version enough for a person that doesn't use it to store music, movies, or games. All I'd be using for is apps and pictures which I'd be uploading to my google drive account. I've never owned an iPhone before. I've been an android user with a phone with 16gb's. It's been more than enough for me.

You will have to actively manage your storage a bit. But if you don't game and you don't want to store movies on your phone, you should be fine. But you will have to get those pictures off your phone every month or two and you won't be able to carry tons of music (will a thousand songs stored locally be enough for you? lol).

I think you will have about 9 or 10 gb free on your phone after operating system and default apps. That may not sound like a lot. But Apps don't take up that much room. Now the pictures from that 12 mb camera are going to take up room. And if you plan on doing 4k video than forget about the 16gb phone. But if you are diligent about moving photos off the device and into the cloud you can get away with the 16gb.

But if you plan on keeping the phone for more than a year or two, I'd get the 64gb.
 
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I've never seen a Plus promotion dude, where did you get that it is the most promoted? The 17" MacBook Pro also had the best specs, the biggest screen and the highest price. Was it Apples flagship notebook? Nope! The 13" MacBook Air showed the way in form factor design. The 15" MacBook Pro was the first to go Retina. The 17" ended up being discontinued. Optical Image Stabilization doesn't make a flagship phone, otherwise there is virtually no difference between the 6s and 6s Plus. Phablets account for only up to 20% of all smartphone sales. Put the newest tech in an iPhone SE and you could as well declare that to be the flagship. That wouldn't be any more ridiculous than hyping the Plus with this meaningless title.

The SE doesn't have the newest tech. It basically has some 6S tech from 7 months ago. You talk as if has some new specs, that the other iPhones haven't had since last year? And yes the Plus is the flagship iPhone. And the Plus has better battery life and OIS. It also has a much better display than the regular 6S. So yes, the 6S Plus does have better overall specs than the regular 6S. The 6S Plus is Apple's current flagship iPhone, followed by the regular 6S, and now the SE. Just like in with Samsung, the bigger S7 Edge is their flagship phone...not the smaller S7. I don't know why you think that just b/c a phone is bigger that it can't be a flagship phone
 
I own a 6S plus I also hate the term flagship and think it's misused 99% of the time.
It's basically a new tech buzzword used to appear knowledgeable. Of course there can be good reason to introduce new technologies with bigger more expensive devices first and later propagate them to smaller cheaper devices, but some features also stay tied to the top of the line model forever. There is simply no evidence that the plus size leads the way for what's to come.
 
SE will go on to sell 30M+ units in a year and still be declared as a 5C "flop" by mainstream Apple haters.

I can already see this coming.
 
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You will have to actively manage your storage a bit. But if you don't game and you don't want to store movies on your phone, you should be fine. But you will have to get those pictures off your phone every month or two and you won't be able to carry tons of music (will a thousand songs stored locally be enough for you? lol).

I think you will have about 9 or 10 gb free on your phone after operating system and default apps. That may not sound like a lot. But Apps don't take up that much room. Now the pictures from that 12 mb camera are going to take up room. And if you plan on doing 4k video than forget about the 16gb phone. But if you are diligent about moving photos off the device and into the cloud you can get away with the 16gb.

But if you plan on keeping the phone for more than a year or two, I'd get the 64gb.

With and Ipad, 16GB is fine as long as you have NAS and DLNA storage at home. For phones it's the camera and especially video that's the main issue. For Watching Movies and the like, swapping them in and out takes a few seconds, so it's not really a bother; streaming takes care of music.

I've had a 16GB for 6 years and through tight management I've been quite fine.
Strangely, I've had a bit more difficulty managing the Ipad though it should be easier. Probably because I use it more for gaming and those big games take space.
 
My iPhone 5S was run over by a truck last summer (I left it on top of my car during a gas stop) so the SE is something I can trust will continue the legacy of Steve Jobs. These elegant life props are remarkably repairable as long as you don't need to replace the home button.
 
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My iPhone 5S was run over by a truck last summer (I left it on top of my car during a gas stop) so the SE is something I can trust will continue the legacy of Steve Jobs. These elegant life props are remarkably repairable as long as you don't need to replace the home button.

I'm thinking about switching from Android to the new SE. A friend of mine's Home Button failed on his 1 year old iPhone 5 a while back. I was just wondering if this was or is a common problem.
 
I see they've removed the iPhone 5c from their website. Shame, I liked the colourful option. Oh well, must go down as one of the shortest product life cycles in recent Apple history. I don't think those users will automatically switch to the iPhone SE.
I've been waiting semi-patiently for the next generation of the 5c, and after September it seemed that it wasn't going to happen. I love the 5c design and I wish they'd done the SE using it. I wasn't a big fan of the 5/5S design, but I recently got a used 5S for my daughter and it felt better in-hand than I remembered. It may call for my first case since my 3GS.

EDIT: Oh, and, to your last point, I am definitely upgrading from my 5c: when I got the 5c, I knew I was giving up some tech in exchange for the superior design, and I had hoped (in vain, it turned out) for a 6c to be here by now with the new tech. I'd like to have Touch ID, and I'd like to have a 64-bit processor. My girlfriend, on the other hand, is happy with her 5c, and won't be upgrading. So, anecdotally and with the smallest sample size possible...half will, half won't. ;)
 
The plus version is a Phablet with phone app, you can call it whatever you want if its makes you happy, but its still a 5.5" Phablet o_O

In the same way that smartphones these days are computers that happen to have a phone app. But they're mainly computers.
 
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So many positive remarks after the doom and gloom last week.
No wonder, this is in so many ways the iPhone we've always wanted. 64-bit A9/M9 @1.85GHz 2GB RAM Metal Swift foundation and a camera with 4K SloMo FocusPixel TrueTone LiveFotos. On top of that iOS 9 has reached a new level of refinement. It took a long time for Apple Maps to get transit and for Safari to get content blocking, but now that we are here it's amazing. No comparison to when you couldn't tell whether or not the shift key was pressed under iOS 7.


Look at it. I love all four colors with the matte edges.
Compare that to the obesity that is iPhone 6 Plus on the Lightning Dock.
iPhone SE, today's tech, yesterday's design.
And who said that Steampunk isn't a good combination?
 
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