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iPhone SE Reviews: Blazingly Fast With Impressive Battery Life
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The 5s is such a beautiful and cherished device that people would have kept it until the wheels flew off. And now with the SE Apple may get to iPad 2 type status where it runs and runs and is so well made that people start upgrading less and less until and only until the device finally dies.
Yeah, I think this phone is going to be a beast for years. Some folks are going to buy and use this phone for four years. Others may not hold onto it that long, but the phone will have multiple users in used market. That A9 chip is going to be able to run iOS and really good Apps for years and years. And the 2gb ram isn't going to be a limiting factor on a small phone that doesn't multi-task either.
It's going to be a no-nonsense workhorse for years to come. Especially with replacement screens and batteries already so cheap and how Apple unlike Android, continues to support these things on a good basis.
The good news for Apple upgrade-wise is the 6 series. People will be more than happy to upgrade from it. Especially when Apple finally makes a modern large phone.
The 5c was being sold for most of 2015. It was discontinued only in September.
What's the price of the 6s in USD in Germany? The main thing about the SE is not so much the price, as is the difference of $250 between it and the 6s, with which it is essentially functionally equivalent. If I were buying a 6s and were aware I could get a smaller version with identical perormance and better battery life, I'd be a little upset to pay 40% more for a .7" larger screen.
While I agree with you in general, I think the least likely scenario is one where Apple releases a 4" iPhone 7 in September. And even if they did I wouldn't expect a price drop on the SE. More than likely we'll get a 4" refresh next March so as not to cannibalize 4.7 & 5.5" sales, as well as boost sales during a slow period, not to mention take the pressure off of supplying 3 brand new models in volume at once (considering Apple's historical supply constraints at launch).
If Apple does what to align the release schedule, then I would expect that not to happen until he 7s. But I hunk that's the least likely scenario.
With that in mind, I see the SE being depreciated along with the 6s, which is $299 six months after the 7 release, $199 after the 7s, and possibly even keep it around one more year to offer a $99 handset. Though realistically the SE is already $50 less than the 5s. So I could see a more gradual price drop of $50 every 6 months as new iPhone models come out, since it only needs to hit $199 in order to be a replacement for the iPod Touch.
They might even keep the SE around as an entry level model, with slight case redesigns and feature upgrades, and maintain that price point, as both an entry level phone and iPod Touch replacement.
LOL - that iPhone SE display has less than 3/4 of 1MP. LOLOLOL. What a frickin' JOKE. The 1.2MP front camera would exceed that display anyway.
[doublepost=1458930474][/doublepost]For those of you who think this is a budget device - apple does not make money losing products, yo! Take a look at their BOM for this iPhone SE when available. You will see how much they are milking it. I'm guessing as close to or exceeding an iPhone 6 in margins!
This is why megapixel wars are a joke. Super high megapixel counts only make sense if you're a digital designer and do a lot of detailed photo editing, which in that case you should probably by a Nikon or Canon DSLR camera.
And then in the fall the bigger iPhone 7 will launch and will out sell the hell out of the smaller SE. Not everybody wants a bigger phone? I agree. But not everybody wants a super small phone either
How do you explain still selling 30 million 4" devices last year, in spite of the fact those 30 million devices were at least 2 1/2 years old? I'd say that proves the point very well.
Just don't buy the phone if the display bugs you that much. Plenty of other people really don't care, as the screen is quite good for their needs. Personally, I couldn't go back to the 4" 1136x640 display, but millions of people are obviously fine with it. Good for them.
And why should I expect any product made by any company to be "money losing"? I don't care how much money Apple makes or doesn't make off their products, that's their decision to make. My decision is whether or not their products meet my needs at the price they offer them at.
Missing in your statement is the competing products. If other company offers a product that meets your needs at the lower price it would be unwise for you not to consider it. There are plenty of phones with better specs (not all specs but most specs) than iPhone SE for much less. But of course each phone is unique ans SE might be exactly (or the closest) what you need.
In most cases, you're exactly right. The difference with the SE is that it's really the only flagship phone right now at 4" (at least in America).
But yes, if screen size is irrelevant to you, the choices are endless.
The SE is not a flagship phone. There can be only one "flagship" and the SE isn't it.
Yes, you're exactly right. I should have said "flagship-quality" phone. The days of 4" phones being *the* premier phone are long gone.
Everybody wants a small phone with a big screen, only when you can't have both some people prioritize screen size and others prioritize phone size. Apple should return to a one size fits all model with a zero width bezel. It's there job to find the best compromise for most people. Today we have three phone sizes nobody really likes.
The SE not having 3D Touch means there's much less room for apps to explore what they can do with the tech. It's hardly a gimmick; it literally does add another dimension to the main input device. Even from the browser, you get a decimal value of the amount of force applied.
Now, thanks to this decision, 3D Touch continues to be relegated to gimmicky situations, because even years from now, apps can't rely on it being there — the low-end iPhone will continue not to have it, after all. (Not to mention none of the iPads do, at this point.)
I'm truly sorry you feel threatened by the colour of a mobile phone.
Right, because the 200 million+ customers using the iPhone 6s models sold to date aren't enough incentive to create useful 3D Touch features. /s
Totally agreed, the race to the thinnest phone is the one feature nobody wanted but smartphone makers became obsessed with. I have the 6s and it's a great phone but I would trade a few mm and grams for a better battery any day.
Source?
Not if there's not only a significant base of existing phones not offering the feature, but also now a significant number of new customers without them.
I am a fan of thinner. Was surprised to see the 6 beat the new Galaxy S7 for battery life. Thinner appears to have hurt Galaxy more than Apple's older iPhone "too thin" 6 models...
It will be interesting to see how well this sells. In 2016 I find it fascinating that Apple releases a 4" screen phone. I'm used to the 6s screen so all smaller iPhones just seem too puny now but obviously Apple wouldn't even think of releasing a 4" phone if it wasn't confident the demand was there. This is missing things like 3d touch and a higher res front camera but all in all, this is the new star of the Apple lineup- undeniably the best combo of value and features