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Given the choice between portless and Lightning i would pick portless. But I'd much rather get USB-C though
 
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I'm glad. The lightning connector is a lot more durable than USB-C. I honestly think that this is why Apple keeps using it in their highest volume products.

We tend to plug and unplug our phones a lot to charge them, sometimes on a daily basis.

I've seen Macbooks with USB-C where the socket has worn out to such an extent the plug will fall out if you turn it sideways.

I've never seen a lightning connector wear out. At the worst it needs an occasional cleaning.

Exactly, I don't want Lightning port go away anytime soon, it's simply great.
 
Lightning is unparalleled when it comes for ruggedness. And I would bet it has an even wider adoption than USB-C. It would not be wise to change to another standard when the future for the iPhone clearly is portless.
I have a 12 inch MacBook and you're right, the USB-C port is showing signs of getting loose. Sometimes have to wiggle to get it to charge. If you look at the USB-C port, you'll see that the connectors are one a flimsy card in the middle of the port. Whereas the lightening all the connectors are on outside of the connector. Much more robust.
 
Here's the issue: iPhones have nearly 10 years of using the Lightning port--one that served Apple well because the port is generally pretty durable (and Apple did it long before USB-IF introduced the USB Type C port in 2016). I expect, however, for Apple to bump up the maximum charging rate from 20 to 27 W on the Lightning connection to improve the charge times on the 2021 iPhone models, while maintaining compatibility with the USB-IF Power Delivery 3.0 standard.
 
I very much like this.
Lightning always plugs in with a sturdy click, whereas USB-C gets loose over time.
It's not an Apple-exclusive issue - all the USB-C ports on devices I own - Samsung phone, laptops, hubs etc. all wear out really quickly and stop holding the plugs which results in data loss elongated mother things if the connection is disturbed. It's very unwelcome in a mobile device.
A Lightning connector has dedicated grooves on the sides that hold it in place similar to what USB-A had on top of the connector.
Now if only Apple would just stop using recycled prophylactics for the rubber coating on their cables.
 
All things related to an iPhone lightning port makes up far less than 0.5% of Apple's revenue.

Switching iPhone to USB-C would sell hundreds of millions of Apple branded USB-C cables. It would also sell more MagSafe since users can't reuse their old Lightning and users would need to decide between USB-C and MagSafe.

So no, obviously not.
Lol no apple gets a cut from any MFI cable. They wouldn’t get a cut from every USB C cable. 0.5% (assuming you didn’t make this up) is still a ton of money.

I do find it amusing as always how effective their marketing is that people are actually defending proprietary cables lmao
 
There is simply no reason to use USB-C for iPhone.

It offers no benefits for most users, given the huge installed base of Lightning devices and accessories. iPad Pro is a productivity device and many people connector monitors and storage devices to it. That doesn't happen with iPhone.
 
Currently an Android user and have been toying with the idea of the switch to iPhone but won't happen because of the lightning port. Wonder how many others are like me; I made a conscious effort to have everything charge off the same cable, so much more convenient
 
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Lol no apple gets a cut from any MFI cable. They wouldn’t get a cut from every USB C cable. 0.5% (assuming you didn’t make this up) is still a ton of money.

I do find it amusing as always how effective their marketing is that people are actually defending proprietary cables lmao
that mfi cut is peanuts. 0.5% revenue does not mean net profit. net profit is far less than that. lmao

do the math from the quarterly revenue reports and analyst estimates of what is included in the "other" segment (watches, homepod, accessories) and you can come to a reasonable conclusion of how much revenue Apple gets from iPhone-related lightning accessories. if you have a better estimate than 0.5% revenue, let's hear it.

also, many android users won't buy an iphone because it's lightning. really? apple is going to deny android switchers because they really want that sweet sweet 0.5% revenue? lmao
 
Apple has to gain something by moving to USB-C. Meaning there has to be a benefit to the user base that exceeds the negative trade offs from such a move.

Here's one: About 12% of iPhone users are still using an iPhone 6s or 6s Plus. There's only one reason why so many people are still using such an old phone: the headphone jack. We want to be able to use the same set of wired headphones everywhere, whether it's with our Mac or our phone. Moving to USB-C largely solves that problem

But instead of solving the problem, Apple is expected to flip off the owners of its still-third-most-popular iPhone model by dropping support for the iPhone 6s and 6s Plus in a few months.

I would think that avoiding losing 12% of their market share to Android is a big enough benefit to offset the loss of MFi income. Just saying.
 
Why would that be? Lots of wireless standards (supported by current iPhones) that are way faster then USB2.

Well I am only going off my experience. I have a 2018 MB Pro and an iPhone 12 Pro. I have a 25 gig Photos library. When wired, it transfers all of it in around 15 minutes. Wireless? 4.5 hours. Not sure what wireless technology can reach those wired speeds. At the same time, I'm not transferring that kind of data amount daily.
 
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Here's one: About 12% of iPhone users are still using an iPhone 6s or 6s Plus. There's only one reason why so many people are still using such an old phone: the headphone jack. We want to be able to use the same set of wired headphones everywhere, whether it's with our Mac or our phone. Moving to USB-C largely solves that problem

But instead of solving the problem, Apple is expected to flip off the owners of its still-third-most-popular iPhone model by dropping support for the iPhone 6s and 6s Plus in a few months.

I would think that avoiding losing 12% of their market share to Android is a big enough benefit to offset the loss of MFi income. Just saying.
False. The iPhone 6s has remained on sale since its release at many many retailers, continuously reduced in price with each new iteration. The data you cite is not only talking about people who bought the iPhone 6s in 2015.

6 years later, I think it is finally unavailable, but as recently as last year it was still available from many retailers at a bargain price. You underestimate this large swath of the bottom end of the iPhone market looking for the cheapest iPhone anyone can buy.
 
Fine just make it faster usb-c speeds :)
With a TB storage coming it will take forever to sync to desktop. :rolleyes:
 
Currently an Android user and have been toying with the idea of the switch to iPhone but won't happen because of the lightning port. Wonder how many others are like me; I made a conscious effort to have everything charge off the same cable, so much more convenient

Probably not many. With the iPhone SE, Tim Cook reported a lot of Android switchers. For many Android users, they're using those devices because of price.
 
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