Not a comparison you can make giving the circumstance. The intel ssd isn’t even nvme.
NAND is NAND. NVMe or SATA is the interface. The interface is already built into the SoC so it's actually cheaper for Apple.
Not a comparison you can make giving the circumstance. The intel ssd isn’t even nvme.
While 512Gig model would make more $$$ for Apple, its a strange way to say "We want users to use iCloud"
While, in comparison... if you waned to get people to use a service wouldn't you wanna NOT give them more local storage ?
That would force people to delete, and use the cloud more. As Apple gives you more store with every phone release, All they are doing is weakening the amount of data you store in the cloud less and less, and shifting it to local storage on the phone, more and more
NAND is NAND. NVMe or SATA is the interface. The interface is already built into the SoC so it's actually cheaper for Apple.
Apple failed under Jobs too. Forget that part?
And yet it baffles me how people can afford a $1k iPhone but cannot afford 99c a month for 50GB iCloud.
If you turn iCloud off anyway, then whatever Apple offer for free doesn’t matter then.
All I keep on my micro SD card are photos, video, audio, and documents. Never had to run apps off SD card, so can't comment on that.Having to use an SD card slot to raise your phones storage is just not an optimal solution though. I did that with my last Android phone and it was a pain. Some apps couldn't even be stored on the card and you had to adjust settings to that photos and videos defaulted to being saved on the card. In addition, despite a high end card it was a little slower than local storage. I found myself having to actively manage what went on local storage and what went on the card. Netflix lived on local storage, but downloaded shows from Netflix lived on the card and I had to configure that. No.
In my case, the cloud may be 99c for 50GB of storage, but my 5 gig of monthly data transfer on my iPhone costs me $60 and each additional gig is $20 (and that's actually good price here in Canada). So what good is iCloud to me? Local storage holding my photos, music, etc is the only way that works.
iCloud also syncs also WiFi. That’s what I do. My files sync and backup over WiFi when I am back at home.
Then you only have access to the majority of your files at home. I guess that works for you, it doesn't for me.
Apple still thinks along the lines of making a difference in peoples lives, but you have stopped hearing them for reasons of your own. Anyone remember the iphone 1 and how Apple had to drop the price? That was in 2007.That's true. I guess just I miss when Apple measured success by how it improved customers' lives rather than by the price of the company's stock....
What "short term". He has had the reigns since Aug 2011, over 7 years. It should be obvious that he is successful at taking apple to the next level and Apples products are being bought in record numbers. We'll see what happens this fiscal quarter....
It truly amazes me there are so many people here who will brag about how great Apple is *because of* their high profits, when the reality is other companies simply aren't as eager to gimp their products in pursuit of the short term bottom line.
I guess you don’t remember any failures under Jobs? Or did you think I meant the company went bankrupt?Sorry, what? When? I didn't bother reading the rest of your post.
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It baffles you that people choose not to purchase something they don't value just because they can afford it? It baffles me that you don't understand that some people simply don't want a cloud.
In my case, the cloud may be 99c for 50GB of storage, but my 5 gig of monthly data transfer on my iPhone costs me $60 and each additional gig is $20 (and that's actually good price here in Canada). So what good is iCloud to me? Local storage holding my photos, music, etc is the only way that works.
No, they are on my phone right now even as I reply to this. Syncing via iCloud doesn’t mean they aren’t available to me outside of my house. It just means that any changes, such as new photos taken, get propagated to my other devices at home over WiFi (and I can still transfer them via airdrop in a pinch).
Apple failed under Jobs too. Forget that part?
I guess you don’t remember any failures under Jobs? Or did you think I meant the company went bankrupt?
You don’t remember Jobs recruiting Sculley for CEO only to get thrown out a couple years later?
Or the Apple Lisa, G4 Cube, Macintosh TV?
Or how about his mess of a supply chain and trying to produce parts in house to the point he hired Tim Cook to clean it up?
What do you mean? Those are examples of Apple failing under Jobs. You want me to bring up the multiple years of no profits too? What is failure to you? Closing their doors forever?The point we were talking about is the idea that you should skimp on the local storage because you can store all your data on iCloud and let Apple decide what should live in the limited local space and what should be banished to the crowd. I suppose on fast wifi that isn't so bad.
And before that, it was the OP saying that people choosing not to spend a little every month on iCloud after $1000 on a phone is silly. I said that there are many reasons people don't to use iCloud and I gave one of the reasons I don't. You seized on my reason as if it were the entire point and not one minor example.
But you just keep moving the bar and changing what you're talking about and pretending you're arguing from the same position.
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This is what you said the firs time
So, no, none of your examples are "Apple failing under Jobs".
No, they are on my phone right now even as I reply to this. Syncing via iCloud doesn’t mean they aren’t available to me outside of my house. It just means that any changes, such as new photos taken, get propagated to my other devices at home over WiFi (and I can still transfer them via airdrop in a pinch).
What "short term". He has had the reigns since Aug 2011, over 7 years. It should be obvious that he is successful at taking apple to the next level and Apples products are being bought in record numbers. We'll see what happens this fiscal quarter.
When does Tims tenure become long term? 7 years imo, is not short term. But we will see.I believe you. But that's not the problem iCloud was supposed to solve in this discussion. What if you have a 64 gig iPhone and want to hold 100 gig of photos/videos? Some of your data will only exist in the cloud.
I don't really care for iCloud on the phone no matter that Apple did with it. Though I actually would love to use iCloud on my Mac, but there is no way to prevent it from syncing over cellular (when the mac is tethered to the iPhone) and no way to control what stays on the mac and what stays on the cloud. 2TB of storage that shows up as a common hard drive on all my macs would be amazing for the $10/month. But it doesn't work that way and even if it did, the risk of it syncing over cellular would kill it.
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7 years is short term. Perhaps that misunderstanding is part of the problem.
They should start at 128GB, but there’s a ton of profit in charging an extra $150 for the 256GB model.
64GB in a $1000 device is embarrassing.
Well it's not like there haven't been more affordable offerings. Apple has been consistently expanding the price range of iPhones, aside from updating the SE this year. Will you get the latest and greatest? No. And I feel like you're never going to see another 500$ iPhone with new hardware.Agreed. I am interested but was taken aback by the pricing of the last two updates of iPhones. Consequently, I am still using an iPhone 4S. Apple risks a cycle whereby people hold on to their phones until they fail becuase the new models are so expensive. I suppose that is good for the environment, but it is not good for the Apple 'ecosystem'. Let me put it this way: how many people do you see rocking obsolete or outright broken iPhones? Where I am the number seems to grow every day and this hardly projects the kind of image I think Apple wants to project.
Apple still thinks along the lines of making a difference in peoples lives, but you have stopped hearing them for reasons of your own. Anyone remember the iphone 1 and how Apple had to drop the price? That was in 2007.
The mention of the stock price is the counter to some of the anti-apple "is doomed" rhetoric that seems pervasive for the last 7 years.
Well it's not like there haven't been more affordable offerings. Apple has been consistently expanding the price range of iPhones, aside from updating the SE this year. Will you get the latest and greatest? No. And I feel like you're never going to see another 500$ iPhone with new hardware.
It is one thing thinking about changing people's lives, it is another to deliver affordable products that do. Apple is failing at that. I've been using Apple products for a long time (since the 1980's) and the vision and quality of Apple products has been declining while the prices have been increasing. But sure, if you think animojis that animate your face as a unicorn or a pile of excrement changes peoples' lives, then by all means enjoy your Apple products and invest in the company.
As for the stock, I cannot deny that Apple is a successful business ... for now. However, I saw the company struggle after the first time Jobs left. I see the same signs of Apple losing focus (and quality control) now. Hopefully the company can stop the rot, but right now I remain with Apple because other IT ecosystems do not appeal, not becuase I believe the Apple ecosystem is as cutting edge and brilliant as it once was.
I would recommend the app tripmode for the Mac. I use it to control which apps have access to the internet when tethered to my phone and it helps prevents iCloud Photo Library from syncing (amongst other downloads).I believe you. But that's not the problem iCloud was supposed to solve in this discussion. What if you have a 64 gig iPhone and want to hold 100 gig of photos/videos? Some of your data will only exist in the cloud.
I don't really care for iCloud on the phone no matter that Apple did with it. Though I actually would love to use iCloud on my Mac, but there is no way to prevent it from syncing over cellular (when the mac is tethered to the iPhone) and no way to control what stays on the mac and what stays on the cloud. 2TB of storage that shows up as a common hard drive on all my macs would be amazing for the $10/month. But it doesn't work that way and even if it did, the risk of it syncing over cellular would kill it.
Deliver affordable products?
When did apple ever claim to do that?
They were always considered to be expensive, not affordable.
Even the first shuffle was vilified for being overpriced and that cost $99
I suppose I think there is a difference between expensive and exploitive.
Ever ask yourself why the s9 or note 9 is allegedly doing poorly? Is Samsung out to change peoples lives by throwing technology into a phone that few want or need while at the same time charging the same prices apple does?It is one thing thinking about changing people's lives, it is another to deliver affordable products that do. Apple is failing at that. I've been using Apple products for a long time (since the 1980's) and the vision and quality of Apple products has been declining while the prices have been increasing. But sure, if you think animojis that animate your face as a unicorn or a pile of excrement changes peoples' lives, then by all means enjoy your Apple products and invest in the company.
As for the stock, I cannot deny that Apple is a successful business ... for now. However, I saw the company struggle after the first time Jobs left. I see the same signs of Apple losing focus (and quality control) now. Hopefully the company can stop the rot, but right now I remain with Apple because other IT ecosystems do not appeal, not becuase I believe the Apple ecosystem is as cutting edge and brilliant as it once was.