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Ever since I loaded the latest update, when I click on the Favorites tab it crashes Cydia and I loose everything is set back to defaults (still jailbroke). I uninstalled Kirikae and downloaded again, but still the same problem :(
 
Sledutah said:
Ever since I loaded the latest update, when I click on the Favorites tab it crashes Cydia and I loose everything is set back to defaults (still jailbroke). I uninstalled Kirikae and downloaded again, but still the same problem :(
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I had the same problem. No need to reinstall though. You have one or more conflicting apps in your favorites. You're going to have to troubleshoot and figure out which ones are not playing nicely together. Remove a few or all of them and just add one at a time to test it out. You don't need mail or phone in your favs. I think they were causing problems for me.

Hope this helps.
 
JReynolds said:
I had the same problem. No need to reinstall though. You have one or more conflicting apps in your favorites. You're going to have to troubleshoot and figure out which ones are not playing nicely together. Remove a few or all of them and just add one at a time to test it out. You don't need mail or phone in your favs. I think they were causing problems for me.

Hope this helps.
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Thanks, after I turned them all off I was able to open the Favorite tab again. I'll just add a few at a time & see what happens.
 
Just heard back from the dev. If you switch to an app from Kirikae itbackgrounds your current. If you just hit the home button it doesn't. Clever eh?
 
Emailed the developer about the "Quit" button replacing the delete button in Mail and Address Book. He says it's fixed in the next release, which will be out within the next 24 hours! Now that's good service!

I also asked about an option to use something other than double-click to open Kirikae. He says it's already on the to-do list. He's planning to use holding the home button, but is trying to figure out how to avoid conflicts with Backgrounder and VoiceControl.
 
iphone3048 said:
You must have some other app that's causing some conflits. Try installing it again and see what happens. To the OP, thanks a bunch man!!!!!!! This app is KILLER, so glad I switched from the palm pre to 3GS. With this app the pre is no more the only multitasking phone. I feel for those who are scared to jailbrake!
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Did a little trial and error to see what was conflicting with it, not sure what it was exactly, but the problems solved.

Just updated to the latest version, and I gotta say, this is an excellent app. And as someone mentioned, Apps load so fast when the animation is disabled. It'd be awesome if someone found a way to disable the default animation fly in/out for all apps.
 
It'd be insane if Safari pages could be added to the list. Sometimes it takes longer to go (and find) a different Safari page than it does to find and launch another app.

I don't know if this'd even be possible though.

Great app nonetheless.
 
I meant that it'd be great if open Safari pages /tabs could be listed individually on the open apps list somehow.
 
r49 is out and once again Lance did a great job. Badges are fixed, and the swipes are correct again: "Quit" in Kirikae, "Delete" in mail.

If we ever lose jailbreaking, this is one I'll really miss!!
 
thelatinist said:
Emailed the developer about the "Quit" button replacing the delete button in Mail and Address Book. He says it's fixed in the next release, which will be out within the next 24 hours! Now that's good service!

I also asked about an option to use something other than double-click to open Kirikae. He says it's already on the to-do list. He's planning to use holding the home button, but is trying to figure out how to avoid conflicts with Backgrounder and VoiceControl.
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You could use the volume down, I use volume up for iRealQuickSMS.
 
audiosclie said:
You could use the volume down, I use volume up for iRealQuickSMS.
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I'd prefer that nothing is added to the Home button. There is already enough going on there with OS 3.x and beyond. I'd like a swipe across the bottom of the screen, or straight up from the bottom.

Between iPod controls, voice control, and Kirikae, the Home button is maxed out!
 
I agree with the above.
The page of apps open is more than enough. I have only once had more than the viewable page of apps open and even then I only had to scroll down slightly.

Another idea for this would be to make the app list smaller so it's more like the contacts list or the list of apps displayed in BossPrefs when hiding apps. Just slightly smaller but still with the icon.

The new update is working brilliantly as well. I have yet to crash this app, even when opening loads of apps. Apart from when my iPhone totally froze :p
 
How long does it take to go back to the home screen and open a backgrounded app? Not very long, yet we still enjoy this app. Just because something isn't needed doesn't mean it wouldn't be helpful in some way.
 
I know it takes like 1ms quicker using Kirikae without animations on, but people notice that 1ms and take it into account for increasing the overall speed of the iPhone.
Imagine if you could disable global app switching animations. I think the iPhone would feel a lot quicker even though you would only be saving a fraction of time than normal.

That being said, you could use Kirikae to launch all your apps and remove the need for the springboard to speed up your usage lol. Talk about overkill!
 
kAoTiX said:
I know it takes like 1ms quicker using Kirikae without animations on, but people notice that 1ms and take it into account for increasing the overall speed of the iPhone...
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I agree.

Think about this way. Without opening/closing animations the illusion of switching between background apps is even more real. Otherwise it just feels like you have to close each app before opening the next.
 
It's like apple put the animations there to slow the device down. It literally has to do more work to display these animations than to not display them and simply load the app. I mean take closing it for instance, it has to save a screenshot of the app to shrink it which makes the animation. Where's the logic in that!?

Just for the sake of testing a great app, I challenge anyone to get the most apps running at once using Kirikae/Backgrounder.
Any iPhone platform, 3G/S/2G etc and some form of proof must be provided in the way of a video or screenshots of the Kirikae window.

I'd place bets on the 3GS being the best platform for this test as it has far more memory than any other iPhone, I've so far tested TomTom, Navigon, Gangsters (game) and Youtube (while playing a video) and the memory was still plenty! Everything still works after restoring too.

Noticed a slight bug the other day too. If your app is in landscape and you open Kirikae it leaves the landscape info bar at the top and puts it over the left side of the Kirikae window (or right depending on the rotation). Annoying but not impossible to work with.
 
kAoTiX said:
It's like apple put the animations there to slow the device down. It literally has to do more work to display these animations than to not display them and simply load the app. I mean take closing it for instance, it has to save a screenshot of the app to shrink it which makes the animation. Where's the logic in that!?
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They are there to make the phone feel faster.

Lets say it takes 2 seconds to load an app. It will feel faster if you see an animation instantly as opposed to a two second lag before the app come up. Its the lag that makes a device feel slow. Apple's solution is the best one. The animations are there to cover the application load time.

Even if there is a lag when taking the screenshot, and I haven't noticed one, having that happen at the close of an app is better because you aren't expecting an immediate reaction. If that same lag were to happen at opening then you would notice it because you want an app to open as quickly as possible. When you close an app you haven't really decided what you want to do next so you don't need it to happen as quickly as you do when you initialte an app launch.

However, when you are switching between currently running apps you want that to happen right away,otherwise it just feels like you are quitting one app and loading another. Especially since we've been trained that that happens with those zoom animations.
 
darngooddesign said:
They are there to make the phone feel faster.

Lets say it takes 2 seconds to load an app. It will feel faster if you see an animation instantly as opposed to a two second lag before the app come up. Its the lag that makes a device feel slow. Apple's solution is the best one. The animations are there to cover the application load time.

Even if there is a lag when taking the screenshot, and I haven't noticed one, having that happen at the close of an app is better because you aren't expecting an immediate reaction. If that same lag were to happen at opening then you would notice it because you want an app to open as quickly as possible. When you close an app you haven't really decided what you want to do next so you don't need it to happen as quickly as you do when you initialte an app launch.

However, when you are switching between currently running apps you want that to happen right away,otherwise it just feels like you are quitting one app and loading another. Especially since we've been trained that that happens with those zoom animations.
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Yeh but that's why I said it. My apps dont take 2 seconds, they're instant without the animations lol. Especially when they're not backgrounded.
This is obviously 3GS only as my 3G was never as responsive. I do agree that they are there to give the sense of the app 'loading' rather than unresponsive.
The option to disable would be nice though.
 
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