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'iPhone Ultra' Will Solve Two Key Problems

code-m said:
My only issue with some foldable phone is the asymmetry when it’s closed, one one side it’s rounded corners and the other a squared-off corners. Why not just make it all squared-off like some Sony phones and have a symmetric look to it.

I am sure there is a solution to this problem to have all rounded corners but maybe the technology is not there yet or it has yet to be revealed.
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My Z Fold 7 have a more squared off look and I don’t like it, makes it look more industrial. There’s also something emotional when interacting with the screen with rounded UI elements, feels more organic.

I also think rounded corners makes it more comfortable to hold so I’d rather take the non symmetrical look.
 
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code-m said:
My only issue with some foldable phone is the asymmetry when it’s closed, one one side it’s rounded corners and the other a squared-off corners. Why not just make it all squared-off like some Sony phones and have a symmetric look to it.

I am sure there is a solution to this problem to have all rounded corners but maybe the technology is not there yet or it has yet to be revealed.
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Hmm, I haven't noticed that on my z fold 7 what's the last foldable you used?
 
I7guy said:
What’s that line? “If you have to ask how much “?
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I mean I feel like I can answer this and I don't have to ask, 2k is about it, after that it's just some collectors item. With an average of what, two to four years actual use time until most will upgrade?
 
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This could be another Vision Pro 🥽 scenario where the price is just too high and very niche product. I’ll probably stick with the 18 Pro Max and just test out the iPhone Fold and maybe get the 2nd or 3rd generation of this product.
 
ofarlig said:
My Z Fold 7 have a more squared off look and I don’t like it, makes it look more industrial. There’s also something emotional when interacting with the screen with rounded UI elements, feels more organic.

I also think rounded corners makes it more comfortable to hold so I’d rather take the non symmetrical look.
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There is a balanced between too much rounded corners and too much squared-off corners. The UX/UI with LiquidGlass has comically rounded corners while the iPhone and iPad also has too much rounded corners. MacBook Air/Pro have a good balance the two.
 
wanha said:
someone please explain to me what problem a square screen solves

it adds precious little for watching movies or reels

genuine question
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The point is that with the outer screen being more square the larger open screen ends up being more iPad ratio and so it will add a significant amount of screen for watching movies or reels compared to something like the zfold that basically is a square when open.
 
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Knowimagination said:
The point is that with the outer screen being more square the larger open screen ends up being more iPad ratio and so it will add a significant amount of screen for watching movies or reels compared to something like the zfold that basically is a square when open.
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The challenge is the aspect ratio; more square results in black bars for unused space. Unless it is wider than an iPhone is tall, openning won't add any extra space, unless you zoom and crop. The extra space will be useful to those wanting such a phone, just not for videos, IMHO.
 
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jlc1978 said:
The challenge is the aspect ratio; more square results in black bars for unused space. Unless it is wider than an iPhone is tall, openning won't add any extra space, unless you zoom and crop. The extra space will be useful to those wanting such a phone, just not for videos, IMHO.
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When you say more square are you referring to the outer display? Because the point is that you would unfold to the larger screen and now have a better aspect ratio when you do that. This thing is designed specifically to be better than something like the zfold that opens into a large square which actually has huge black bars.
 
Analog Kid said:
I don't understand the hate for the notch, frankly, but I equally didn't understand people hailing the dynamic island as genius. It struck me mostly as a well executed lemons->lemonade move.
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It turns out that lemonade is delicious and the Dynamic Island (software feature) is useful.
 
Ah, judging by the headline, I thought this foldable might finally be solving some real user needs or problems, the kind this “solution” has been looking for ever since the foldable-gimmick first appeared.

Instead, it now seems to be solving its own problems like a wrinkled display. 😂 😂😂😂😂
 
a less visible crease is not good enough. either its completely invisible (unlikely) or its a hard pass for me.
 
I've never once been bothered by the crease in 5 years using the Galaxy Z Flip. Maybe it's different in the folded open tablet form factor, especially as it runs top to bottom and actually lacks the convenience factor. With the flip, I often have it in the folded open form playing something on YouTube, as it becomes essentially a laptop style display, but I guess that is not so convenient in the form of a tablet unless you want an ultra wide experience.

FWIW I've also found the flips incredibly durable, but again maybe that's different on the folds. The tri-fold concept seemed kind of dangerous, especially with one right way to fold it up, but with just two pieces it does surprise me that durability should be an issue. And it certainly seems like something Apple wouldn't want to "fix" for their first gen, as they need people to keep upgrading!
 
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Knowimagination said:
When you say more square are you referring to the outer display? Because the point is that you would unfold to the larger screen and now have a better aspect ratio when you do that. This thing is designed specifically to be better than something like the zfold that opens into a large square which actually has huge black bars.
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I was refering to the unfolded shape. If it is essentiality the same as two iPhones side by side you get no advantage for viewing videos, you could actually lose some vs turning an iPhone on its size. You do get more space for thongs ot in a standard video AR.
 
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jlc1978 said:
I was refering to the unfolded shape. If it is essentiality the same as two iPhones side by side you get no advantage for viewing videos, you could actually lose some vs turning an iPhone on its size. You do get more space for thongs ot in a standard video AR.
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Ah I see, yeah I agree with you if this was two iPhone airs that folded out into a big square screen similar to the Zfold I would have no interest in it.

Its kind of funny because I was checking out foldables and found the Huawei pura X and was like wait that is the form factor I would want for a folding phone but you can't get it in the US. I hadn't been following the iPhone fold rumors and then lo and behold it is very similar so I am pretty pumped now.
 
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trip1ex said:
If I had to guess, the reception ends up lukewarm.

As much as the concept appeals, can’t help but feel it would be too fragile still. Then there’s the price tag. Probably in 2x iPhone price range minimum.

Next people will discover they don’t unfold it much in practice. And that it makes for a worse feeling iPhone when not unfolded. Chunkieir, heavier.

Which leads to realization they might as well carry a cheap iPad on trips or in their backpack if they want to watch videos on a bigger screen. And stick to a single screen phone.
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Bah humbug. At the very least, it will generate buzz, interest and foot traffic and lead to an overall increase in iPhone sales.
 
ofarlig said:
The point is that you don’t have to carry an iPad with you for the times you do want to do more than just use a phone. A foldable replaces my phone and iPad Mini while enabling me to always have the tablet size with me which comes in handy a lot both when im out and about and while I am at home.
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Same here. I have plenty of use cases on a daily basis that make me wish for an iPhone that is smaller and bigger than a Pro Max at the same time. That flexibility in a single device is the most important feature for me … everything else is secondary, e.g. I do not care whether it has Touch or Face ID and I don‘t mind having to unfold it first to get the “bigger than” advantage.
 
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trip1ex said:
Which leads to realization they might as well carry a cheap iPad on trips or in their backpack if they want to watch videos on a bigger screen. And stick to a single screen phone
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Yes, if watching video were the only thing for which I needed it. I got myself an iPad mini for trips and backpack. The experience led me to the realization that having a larger screen in a smaller device always within easy reach would be much welcome when I am out and about.
 
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macfacts said:
why does Tim believe a crease makes it unusable but a notch is fine?
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The notch and “island” are marketing signatures - this is an Apple product! The crease would be just another could be anything. Will be shocked if they don’t mess it up somehow. The MBN is good to look at with no notch on it. Praying they do that to the updated MBP.
 
circatee said:
Curious on people's thoughts. Do you think with the release of a "folding" type iPhone, the sales of iPads/iPad Mini will be reduced, significantly?
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I think the Neo will cost more iPad sales than the iPhone Unfold. It really works, whereas Apple has to screw up the iPadOS so it’s a closed system that AAPL shareholders and Mr Crook can ensure an anticompetitive advantage! I think the Neo represents much better value and small and portable. Except for artists and watching videos, MacOS makes it better in every single way. Includes the keyboard and trackpad even!
 
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