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"When we asked Google whether it developed this feature with or without Apple’s involvement, Moriconi confirmed it was not a collab. “We accomplished this through our own implementation,” he tells The Verge. “Our implementation was thoroughly vetted by our own privacy and security teams, and we also engaged a third party security firm to pentest the solution.”"
Haha, cool. I'm wondering how Apple will react to this.
 
Please patch it, and release :

iOS 9.3.7
iOS 10.3.5
iOS 12.5.8
iOS 15.8.6
iOS 16.7.13 (or 16.8)
iOS 18.7.3
iOS 26.2
 
The argument was that Apple started work on USB-C well before the EU mandate and you seemed to have disagreed with that argument.
The official decision about the mandate was made in 2022. Laws like this don't appear out of nowhere though. Apple's eyes and ears in Brussels (aka lobbyists), knew about it well in advance. So it's not too far-fetched to deduct, that the EU decision influenced Apple's product roadmap.
 
Very welcome news. People should be able to choose a phone based entirely on its merits (cameras, materials, battery, price…) not forced to pick one because they’re enslaved to an ecosystem. Now let’s develop full interoperability between watches, computers, headphones and so on.
 
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Google is the one that did this. Apple had no part in it.

...and I expect Apple to patch it, ASAP.

From: https://www.theverge.com/news/825228/iphone-airdrop-android-quick-share-pixel-10

"When we asked Google whether it developed this feature with or without Apple’s involvement, Moriconi confirmed it was not a collab. “We accomplished this through our own implementation,” he tells The Verge. “Our implementation was thoroughly vetted by our own privacy and security teams, and we also engaged a third party security firm to pentest the solution.”"
Imagine if Apple did patch it though!

Not like this is Beeper here.

Genius play by Google here-any sort of push back and it's Apple that are the bad guys by denying people the ability to share regardless of platform.
 
Very welcome news. People should be able to choose a phone based entirely on its merits (cameras, materials, battery, price…) not forced to pick one because they’re enslaved to an ecosystem. Now let’s develop full interoperability between watches, computers and so on.
The only reason anyone uses an iPhone is because of Facetime and iMessage, features that are made to be exclusive, for no actual reason.
 
The argument was that Apple started work on USB-C well before the EU mandate and you seemed to have disagreed with that argument.
Apple didn't just start work on USB-C, they freaking contributed to the design and specifications of USB-C. They just refused to transition iPhones to USB-C even though Macbooks, iPads, Chargers etc, were already transitioned over to USB-C.

The timing of the legislation actually supports my idea as we all know Apple works on iPhones YEARS in advance. There is literally no way that starting working on a USB-C iPhone in 2022 would lead to a USB-C iPhone in 2023.
This is true but not in the way you are looking at it. By your own words Apple literally helped design the USB-C standard and specifications. Apple started transitioning Macbooks to USB-C in 2015 and iPad in 2019. They knew the regulation was coming dating back to 2021 while they were already transitioning everything but the iPhone to USB-C.

They’d have to have the SoC, with its USB-C compatible features, nailed down by at least 2019 or 2020 to allow time for testing, iterating, production and ready for manufacture. All of that indicates an Apple that was working to meet their self imposed goal of 10 years to put the port they had been working with the industry on over that time.

They did have the SoC with its USB-C compatible features nailed down by 2018. iPhone accessories generate billions of dollar for Apple because lighting is a proprietary connector so they waited until the last minute to transition while screaming the the law stifles innovation.

Think about this, Apple had 12 years to innovate with lighting port and they did nothing, they still capped the speed to 480Mbps, it took Apple transitioning to USB-C to enable being able to record to external storage device so if anything thanks to USB-C for enabling that "innovation".
 
I remember the Apple vs Palm battle to prevent the Palm Pre from pretending to be an iPod and syncing music via iTunes. Constant iTunes updates focused on kicking out Palm.
It’s just so very interesting how it seems like the world wants so bad to get at stuff with Apple logos on it.
 
I never said there was anything wrong. I’m trying to figure out why the article is calling it a collaboration, but the Google page doesn’t mention Apple at all.
Because, something not being wholly accurate will garner far more attention than reality. Reality is boooooorrrrrrriiiiiing. :)
 
Google is the one that did this. Apple had no part in it.

...and I expect Apple to patch it, ASAP.

From: https://www.theverge.com/news/825228/iphone-airdrop-android-quick-share-pixel-10

"When we asked Google whether it developed this feature with or without Apple’s involvement, Moriconi confirmed it was not a collab. “We accomplished this through our own implementation,” he tells The Verge. “Our implementation was thoroughly vetted by our own privacy and security teams, and we also engaged a third party security firm to pentest the solution.”"
I was trying to be funny, but that only means the code implementation was entirely done by Google, doesn't mean anything about Apple providing documentation or and/or greenlight. It is a technicality.

Google also praises other collaborations with Apple in the statements surrounding this feature launch, as if this is a continued part of it.

As you say, Apple could easily patch it. But I strongly suspect they won't, and that'll be the proof in the pudding.
 
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Follow the money. Apple had a nice extra revenue stream from the proprietary Lightning connector. There are no licensing fees for USB-C. My bet is that they wanted to milk this cow a couple more years, before finally retiring the old connector. Anyway. It's not super productive to argue about this. We now have USB-C, and I'm mostly happy with it. Compared to every other system out there it still is the most versatile and capable.
Oh yes, absolutely follow the money. Profit incentives are always a big motivator!

Ok, Apple has a nice extra revenue stream from the proprietary Lightning connector. Your bet is that they wanted to milk this cow a couple more years. Ok.

The legislation didn’t go into effect until 2024, which means if Apple wanted to milk it for as long as possible, the first iPhone with USB-C would appear at the end of 2024, another year of revenue from Lightning!

Except, Apple made the switch in 2023.

So, Apple LOVING this extra revenue stream wanted to milk it for a couple more years… but they decidedly DIDN’T want to milk it after 2023 because, by that time, they just had had enough milking? They suddenly became lactose intolerant?

OR,

Apple had said in 2012 that Lightning would be the connector for the next decade and THEN… it was the connector for the next decade.
In the meantime, the EU, understanding that no one was going to be settling with microUSB, looked at the great work the tech industry was doing in self-organizing around the USB-C technology they had created (without EU patents or input) and decided that they wanted to be seen as the reason for it occurring. (Even though the work on it started while the EU was still in love with microUSB).

The EU was absolutely the reason why the tiny alternate App Stores for iOS devices exist in the EU. They’re why the ability for third parties to create browsers that use alternate engines on iOS exist (though none have been released). They’re the reason why… ahhh… iPhones and Apple Watches won’t integrate as well going forward. The only thing they did with USB-C was to say “we require it” after everyone else was using it.
 
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The official decision about the mandate was made in 2022. Laws like this don't appear out of nowhere though. Apple's eyes and ears in Brussels (aka lobbyists), knew about it well in advance. So it's not too far-fetched to deduct, that the EU decision influenced Apple's product roadmap.
drafts change a lot. apple rarely finalizes a design on hardware (if ever) based on a draft they can't control

example: had EU mandated USB3.0, they wouldn't have been able to reuse the existing A-chip for USB-C connector because it doesn't have a USB3.0 controller on the iPhone 15. sure they would be able to sell it for a little over a year but then they would have to kill off the product on jan 1 2025.
 
Yes, the default in Mail.app is to send them downsized and compressed.
What do you mean by text messages, maybe MMS ? 😂
iCloud Links are a possibility. But it's surprisingly complicated to do, and I doubt casual iPhone users even know how to do this.

I agree, that in many cases a compressed image is enough. But very often what you want is the best quality possible. And that has been really complicated to accomplish between iOS and Android.
When it really comes down to it, with the quality that most phones are capturing today, downsizing and compressing an image still yields an impressively useful image. :) Such that, while AirDrop to an Android, scratch that, Pixel phone may be a great additional solution now, (scratch that, in a few days?) it’s not as earth shattering an accomplishment as some think it to be.

For anything larger than an image, I’d expect most would still use a file sharing service.
 
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