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Gee, thank you for the wisdom here. Some people don't want an iPhone but would like to have the convenience of iMessage.
Thank you for chiming in. Since we're discussing wants: I would like an iPhone with Google's image processing and editing capabilities but with Apple's video capabilities, with no Siri but with Grok as default voice assistant, a vertical sliding design that unfolds the screen vertically with a motor, thunderbolt port with 140W fast charging, MagSafe, telegram as my default messaging, all the iOS and Android app compatibilities, with 96GB of ram for local LLMs, etc...

but we can't always get what we want.
 
who said they didn't? we're discussing usb-c on iPhone. not discussing designing the port itself.
I didn't disagree with what you said. I was taking it a step further, Apple was there from the beginning when USB-C was being designed. They were one of the first to adopt the design with the thunderbolt 3 protocol which intel donated to the USB forum.
 
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Thank you for chiming in. Since we're discussing wants: I would like an iPhone with Google's image processing and editing capabilities but with Apple's video capabilities, with no Siri but with Grok as default voice assistant, a vertical sliding design that unfolds the screen vertically with a motor, thunderbolt port with 140W fast charging, MagSafe, telegram as my default messaging, all the iOS and Android app compatibilities, with 96GB of ram for local LLMs, etc...

but we can't always get what we want.

I guess this was meant as humor. Good one.
 
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Is it REALLY a big deal? With the phone in my hand, I’ve got at least 4 other ways to send files. Those other ways don’t become less useful due to this. And, those other ways work with ALL Android phones, today, not just Pixel phones.
Sure, there are several ways to share file with 'Droid users. One more way isn't exactly what has my eyebrow raised. TBH, I have never once thought about sharing a file with a 'Droid user - until about an hour ago. What I do find interesting is that Apple is able to wirelessly play nice with others. That opens the door for other interesting potentials. So "big deal?" I mean, there are certainly much bigger deals in life. But in some statistically insignificant super niche corners of the internet, some might find this a big-ish deal-ish. YMMV, obviously.
 
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I find this funny. I remember back in the day when I had a Windows Phone how excited I was that Microsoft made the YouTube app Google refused to make. Google put a stop to that in no time. Let karma commence in 3..2..1..
 
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I didn't disagree with what you said. I was taking it a step further, Apple was there from the beginning when USB-C was being designed. They were one of the first to adopt the design with the thunderbolt 3 protocol which intel donated to the USB forum.
I'm well aware of the history lesson.
 
Think about this, Apple had 12 years to innovate with lighting port and they did nothing, they still capped the speed to 480Mbps, it took Apple transitioning to USB-C to enable being able to record to external storage device so if anything thanks to USB-C for enabling that "innovation".
Lightning did get an update to support USB 3.0 (5 Gbps) speeds on the first 10 inch/12 inch iPad Pros but they never brought it to iPhones, probably due to penny pinching. Same reason why there are iPhones with USB-C limited to USB 2.0.
 
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Except, Apple made the switch in 2023.

So, Apple LOVING this extra revenue stream wanted to milk it for a couple more years… but they decidedly DIDN’T want to milk it after 2023 because, by that time, they just had had enough milking? They suddenly became lactose intolerant?
The iPhone 15 was still officially sold by Apple until September 2025. This would not have been possible, if they had kept the Lightning receptacle for this model. The deadline for the mandate was very strict. All newly sold devices after December 2024 needed to have USB-C.
 
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I do. This will be even easier to get stuff to my Mac though. Now I just need native Android mirroring to Mac! (I know that will never happen in a million years...but please?).

I don't have interest in an iPhone even though it makes the Mac experience better. Android is great for me with how it all works, but I love Mac OS as well for a general computing. Kinda sucks to be between the gutter of basically a tech giant war, so it's cool to see a better experience with it now. I have a Samsung phone though so I'll be waiting a bit, but hopefully soon.
 
So it’s Pixel only?
I literally know only one person who owns a pixel and they live 800km from me
 
Sure, there are several ways to share file with 'Droid users. One more way isn't exactly what has my eyebrow raised. TBH, I have never once thought about sharing a file with a 'Droid user - until about an hour ago. What I do find interesting is that Apple is able to wirelessly play nice with others. That opens the door for other interesting potentials. So "big deal?" I mean, there are certainly much bigger deals in life. But in some statistically insignificant super niche corners of the internet, some might find this a big-ish deal-ish. YMMV, obviously.
Looking into it, it appears that Apple developed the technology that was the basis for NAN (Neighbor Awareness Networking, now known as Wi-Fi Aware). They also developed Apple Wireless Direct Link (AWDL) and the tech in it was contributed to the Wi-Fi Alliance. (Apple’s actually got a long history of contributing to Wi-Fi advancements)

So, this is actually more of the same “playing nice with others” Apple’s been doing, particularly with Wi-Fi, for years now, going all the way back to 802.11b. So when you read, “Ah ha! The EU forced Apple to support Wi-Fi Aware and Wi-Fi Direct!” they’re only saying that because they’re unaware that both of those are Apple technologies there were contributed to the Wi-Fi Alliance. If anything, other companies, desperate to communicate any beneficial connection to Apple’s smaller marketshare devices, may have decided to implement Apple’s tech. Finally.
 
I think you may be right;
Actually, more like Apple developed the tech behind both Wi-Fi Aware and Wi-Fi Direct and contributed them to the Wi-Fi Alliance. As a result, anyone that implements the latest revisions of that tech can get compatibility with AWDL (the tech behind AirDrop). Still requires those companies to do the work and it could be that only Google, trying to grow market share in the US, is in a position where it might be the difference between someone choosing a Pixel or a Samsu… hmmmmm, might is carrying a LOT of weight there. :)

And it’s easy to see why they would. The more they drag the tech world forward via contributed standards, the more products will work out of the box with theirs (and will work in the way they prefer). Again, something in the works before the EU decided to make a big deal about it. In this case, in the works since at least 2015!
 
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The iPhone 15 was still officially sold by Apple until September 2025. This would not have been possible, if they had kept the Lightning receptacle for this model. The deadline for the mandate was very strict. All newly sold devices after December 2024 needed to have USB-C.
So, you’re saying that Apple exceptionally good at predicting not only when EU legislation will pass, but also precisely what that legislation will entail (mighty ability, that)? But, when it comes to technology they had a hand in creating, implementing in multiple devices and iterating over a decade, they’re incapable of predicting when they’re going to implement it? Even when they literally said when Lightning was going to be sunset?

I know folks REALLY want to point to something the EU’s regulations have been good at, other than driving tech companies out of the region, and the GDPR which the regulators are now saying is bad, but, no worries, they want to make it worse. But, as it relates to USB-C, the EU and Brazil are the same. Waited until a standard was created without their assistance or input, then “require” that everyone already using it, to use it.
 
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