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Well, that is something I won't be doing. I've only recently moved from Android because I was fed up with phones only offering one or two major versions of Android. At least with iPhones, you know Apple will update iOS for five years or similar.
Any phone that comes with Facebook or any other social media app pre-installed, that you can't delete or uninstall completely, is a total dealbreaker.

Apple is not perfect - not at all. But unfortunately there's only one phone OS that's acceptable today. I so wish Google and the phone manufacturers played this one better, for their customers, the competition and all of us really.
 
This is a Apple forum for Apple enthusiasts. I don't expect to come here to see any sympathy for Android.

I also had a Note 4 which was high end at the time. While the display at the time was very nice, It ran like turd and so does the battery. The Pixel might be better than Samsung but I'm trying to stay away from the Google ecosystem as much as I can.
In your defense, early Android sucked. I know because I had one too (the HTC Incredible) back in 2010. Wayyy different now.
 
I would never switch, but I’m glad it’s a bit easier now for people to move from one platform to the other.

Analogy: I’m stuck using Evernote when I’d rather use Notion or even just OneNote because I have 10 years’ worth of notes in Evernote that I can’t easily migrate to another platform. Services create captive markets by erecting huge barriers to leaving, then there’s less pressure on them to innovate.

Whether or not you would ever move between iOS and Android, be glad these apps make it easier to move.
 
Fourthly, it is so easy to move back and forth without apps that anyone at all tech savvy should not need apps to help them do this. Users who are not overly technical likely really appreciate these apps.
Huh? There’s nothing to know, savvy or not. You just need to download all your applications and reenter contact information. These apps just automatically fo it for you. They take the exhaustion out of it, not the confusion.
 
In your defense, early Android sucked. I know because I had one too (the HTC Incredible) back in 2010. Wayyy different now.
Early iOS, and all of the other ones too. They all did. It's what they did forward that counts now. Everybody and their aunt had the chance in the beginning of the smartphone OS race.
 
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I would never switch, but I’m glad it’s a bit easier now for people to move from one platform to the other.

Analogy: I’m stuck using Evernote when I’d rather use Notion or even just OneNote because I have 10 years’ worth of notes in Evernote that I can’t easily migrate to another platform. Services create captive markets by erecting huge barriers to leaving, then there’s less pressure on them to innovate.

Whether or not you would ever move between iOS and Android, be glad these apps make it easier to move.
When Notability briefly considered locking features from existing users with their move to a subscription model, I switched to GoodNotes.
I “only” had a year of notes.
What a pain in the backside to migrate that. I ended up not doing it, exported PDFs and started new notebooks in GoodNotes 😅
 
But.. Why would anyone want to?
Most of the people I know (few) who use Androids are people who want to tweak and hack a bunch of stuff you can't do with iOS -- and then a few people who I think got onto Android a long time ago and are somehow weirdly used to it I guess? I can't quite figure it out either.
 
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Early iOS, and all of the other ones too. They all did. It's what they did forward that counts now. Everybody and their aunt had the chance in the beginning of the smartphone OS race.
My first iPhone was the iPhone 5, so the OS was fairly mature by the time I got ahold of it. I can’t believe that copy and paste didn’t exist until iOS 3, I think? And I believe the notification shade made its debut with whatever iOS version shipped with the iPhone 5, though it was already on Android. Crazy stuff.
 
To be fair, you’re right. The features you gain when using multiple Apple devices are actually really good. I didn’t word my post very well… What I meant was that people talk about getting “locked into the ecosystem” and that’s why they can’t leave. And I don’t know what they’re going on about because that’s a lie. Most of the software available is available on platforms, so you can carry them with you as you please.
You're not the only one that doesn't word their posts very well*. I imagine that many people who state that they "can't leave" because they are "locked into the ecosystem" are overstating things a bit. You can always leave. You are never locked in. You always have the option of making a change, it becomes a choice based on how much time, money, effort you want to put into it.

[note: the following is a slightly tangential example, feel free to skip if bored]
Additionally, it isn't just the phone that cause issues. For example, I spent four years migrating my family from Verizon to Cricket (five phones) in order to save money. Cricket is cheaper. I have even purchased a GPS only version of the iWatch because there is no cellular option for Cricket.

Last year, I moved into a strong Verizon area. I would love to switch back to Verizon at this point for quality of access and a more functional watch, but I don't want to get new phones, SIM cards, sign up for two services (some of my family still live in solid Cricket areas). I lie to myself and tell myself that I am locked or trapped, but I am probably just lazy and/or not dissatisfied enough to change.

In sum ecosystems are not lies. We lie to ourselves to avoid the level of effort we believe it would take to do something different.

*It isn't clear in my post, but I count myself as someone who doesn't word things well in posts.
 
Only 2 simple steps!!!

1) Upload all info to Google’s servers

:::tumbleweed. Nothing to see here. No data collection or anything. It’s encrypted. Pinky promisse:::

2) Download all info to new phone!
 
Reminds me of Windows. A lot of people hate Windows, but it’s because they used it on a $200 laptop.
I feel attacked.🙃 Welp, Windows 7 runs just fine on my $200 laptop.😁 I've got Win10 on a $200 work computer and it runs better than my co-worker's $1000 rig with Win11. I know it has nothing to do with Windows, but all the crap he's got running in the background (Norton whatever and a whole lotta manufacturer's bloatware). Run a de-bloated Windows and it's rather snappy, even on a 3rd Gen i5.

I've got a de-bloated Android 8 on my S7. It's so much more usable than my co-worker's S21 full of bloatware.

People who poo-poo Android for being fractured. Well, y'all don't need a complete OS update just to get new Google Apps features on android. System apps get frequent updates, so Gmail on Android 7 is just full featured as Gmail on Android 12. Same with Google Maps and so on. Functionality isn't tied to having the latest version of Android.
 
Cool.

More choice for consumers is better.

Everyone should use the phone that suits them best. Its just a thing, its not a statement on your moral fabric or anything.

Also, "locked into the ecosystem" is not really a thing anymore in my opinion. If you feel locked into Apple's ecosystem, it might just be because you actually prefer Apple's services. Just a thought.
 
I upgraded to the iPhone 13 Pro Max right after launch. I was an Android user for more than 10 years before that.

My first smartphone was the iPhone 3GS. After that I switched to a Samsung Galaxy S4 because the iPhone 5 screen was too small and stuck with Android ever since. I went through Samsung, Nexus, Xiaomi, and Pixel. The Pixel XL and Redmi K20 Pro were great. Samsung was laggy. Nexus 6P had hardware issues but they replaced it for free with a Pixel XL so props to Google for a good warranty. But I am not switching back to Android.

The 13 Pro Max experience is not perfect. Gmail is still not ProMotion occasionally(was really bad a few months ago). Siri today is way less intelligent than Google Assistant was even 3 years ago. Checking stock prices with Apple Watch Series 7 is buggy as the quote for the complication refuses to update. So you have to set the complication to a ticker that you don't care about.

But by and large, the iPhone experience is blazing fast, silky smooth, crazy long-lasting, reliable, and polished. Most importantly, I know it will stay fast for 4+ years. I also love my Apple Watch and plan on replacing my PC and Xiaomi airbuds with a Mac and Airpods next. Living in the US, the green bubble discrimination is real. But the iPhone experience is good enough that you don't feel like it's a forced choice.

Edit: I rambled a little too much. Today I am not even considering switching because the latest Pixel has severe bugs(see MKBHD). Samsung Galaxy seems pretty polished and the Android chips finally got fast enough so they don’t start to lag horrifically after 2 years. But at the end of the day, iPhone is still way faster and has longer battery life and it just works. The fancy big zoom Android cameras are not that useful to me as I am not a stalker. Plus if the Android phones are 20% slower and shorter lasting today, you can be sure that discrepancy is only gonna grow as the phone ages.
 
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When Notability briefly considered locking features from existing users with their move to a subscription model, I switched to GoodNotes.
I “only” had a year of notes.
What a pain in the backside to migrate that. I ended up not doing it, exported PDFs and started new notebooks in GoodNotes 😅
I use Obsidian it saves stuff as plain text, the content is perfectly app independent and cross platform compatible, but a PDF is also fine.
 
Well, that is something I won't be doing. I've only recently moved from Android because I was fed up with phones only offering one or two major versions of Android. At least with iPhones, you know Apple will update iOS for five years or similar.

...until u realize that new updates brings more issues than benefits and that's better to stick with something until it works instead of satysfying the obsessive compulsion of having everything updated at any cost...
 
For anyone who uses this to switch: we’ll see you back here in the beautifully kept walled garden in about two weeks.
 
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...until u realize that new updates brings more issues than benefits and that's better to stick with something until it works instead of satysfying the obsessive compulsion of having everything updated at any cost...
I came from using Android for over five years, and my iPhone 13 Pro Max is far better for my use case than Android ever was. I know some people say Android is far better than iOS because you can't customise iOS the same way you can with Android, and they have a point. I argue that I want something that works well out of the box. I don't want to waste my time customising my iPhone to make it do what I want it to. It should do that automatically, so I switched to the iPhone.

If you can waste your time customising everything, then more power to you. I want things that work and am willing to pay for that.
 
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Whoa! All the folks who day in and day out come here to complain about Apple and its business practices should be jumping all over this opportunity.

Voting with your wallet has never been easier to send Apple a strong message!

Wonder how many will actually muster up some courage and step up?
 
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I came from using Android for over five years, and my iPhone 13 Pro Max is far better for my use case than Android ever was. I know some people say Android is far better than iOS because you can't customise iOS the same way you can with Android, and they have a point. I argue that I want something that works well out of the box. I don't want to waste my time customising my iPhone to make it do what I want it to. It should do that automatically, so I switched to the iPhone.

If you can waste your time customising everything, then more power to you. I want things that work and am willing to pay for that.

1) i was talking of updates
2) iphone isnt "out of the box", not from already many years...
 
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