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I'm going back to Android so I can have my apps automatically order alphabetically without having to reset my home screen every time I download a new app!
Admittedly- this is a workaround. But. If you order your apps alphabetically manually, can’t you just manually slot the app into the right place when downloading? They don’t ‘reset’. So that’s a pretty easy fix. Plus the app draw is alphabetical. I get your angst, but is it so intrinsic that must change ecosystems? There are worse issues with iOS that I would understand!
 
The other thing: it’s in beta, so wait for the release.
‘You’ pushing for it and … oh hold one. Fanboy is mentioned… apologist is implied - you’re not a serious poster you’re just looking for validation or war. Not interested in egotistical anti ‘whoever’ banter. Have a nice evening.

Apple announced Background Update API at WWDC 2022 after I posted this:

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...the-next-version-of-ios.2346007/post-31131810
"Make it less dumbed down like being able to do in-app updates in the background like on Android. The way iOS/iPadOS behaves now is in-app update stops when app is put in the background so you're forced to put it in the foreground and dumbly stare at it until it completes and if it's something big like Genshin Impact it will be a while."
 
Apple announced Background Update API at WWDC 2022 after I posted this:

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...the-next-version-of-ios.2346007/post-31131810
"Make it less dumbed down like being able to do in-app updates in the background like on Android. The way iOS/iPadOS behaves now is in-app update stops when app is put in the background so you're forced to put it in the foreground and dumbly stare at it until it completes and if it's something big like Genshin Impact it will be a while."
Ahhh right. I bet it’s because of you they added it then. Surprised they didn’t pm you to offer you a job. What you going do? 🤷 Lesson learnt I suppose. You should have at least registered this unique idea, so you can prove they stole it from you without acknowledgement.

Or, (and bear with me!!) - they have been working out (albeit slow Apple style), how to add this type of functionality into an OS that fundamentally differers from the type of OS where this is no issue. (Android, Linux, Windows, macOS…)
 
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Why does a placebo iOS version number matter when you still can't place icons anywhere on home screen for accessibility, can't download/run emulators, can't split screen multitask, don't have pen input, can't do in-app updates in the background, don't have native calculator app, lacking in smarts, etc.?
it is personal preference, I don't care about all the stuff you said you miss in iOS. I don't want to spend hours setting up my phone like Gnome Linux desktop to look exactly like I want using tweaks tool and extensions.
 
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I had a 6P too but that was a different time. That era is over. Also it didn't last very long, started doing the early shutdown thing and eventually became too unstable to use regularly. Had a Samsung Galaxy S5 that was instant regret. Went back to iPhone because you just cannot get a true flagship phone on Android, they don't exist. Sure they're fine for a year or so but then the problems stack up and the support drops out.

The only thing I truly miss is being able to PUT MY ICONS WHERE I WANT THEM FFS MAKE IT HAPPEN HAIR FORCE ONE

Oh yeah got distracted but meant to say yes I agree with you about Windows, that's why most people think Macs are too expensive, but at least I can build or buy a good Windows PC (as good as it can be with Windows on it, anyway.) Just can't do that for Android.
Oh I definitely had the early shutdown issue. More than once, actually. I changed the battery in that device twice during its life. I will admit — that battery is not nearly as easy to get to as an iPhone’s. Woof.

I would say Android’s flagship is the Pixel, but another poster gave it a fair chance and said they had so many bugs. I had heard that the Pixel 6’s had bugs since Google was trying their in house SoC for the first time, but I didn’t know how widespread the issues were. So I guess even that’s a gamble at this point in time.

I hear you about not being able to place my icons anywhere. I miss the Android app drawer. Android app drawer is the GOAT. There’s actually so much that I miss about Android but I digress.

Nice to meet a fellow 6P owner!! :D
 
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That's cool! Switching from Android to iOS was fairly painless, I hope it'd be the same if I ever decide to jump ship again in case a new Pixel is compelling enough. I kinda like both platforms for different reasons, not sure why everyone here is so against consumer choice :D
 
Step 1 find bridge. Step 2 jump. It’s only a 12 foot drop, so it just hurts your feet and back pretty bad. Maybe you roll and get a few scrapes, bumps, and bruises. Now go in pain, and live with the poor decision you’ve made.
 
I'm going back to Android so I can have my apps automatically order alphabetically without having to reset my home screen every time I download a new app!
Did Apple figure out yet how to allow the user to arrange the home screen icons to their preference? Or even leave, GASP, empty spaces on the screen
 
I purchased a Pixel 6 Pro twice a few months apart. I bought the second one thinking things would get better as time went on. It was a horrible experience. Not necessarily Android but the phone itself. Lots of bugs, the fingerprint scanner was horrible. I lost the ability to make calls and text people routinely. Google Assistant would barely work on the phone and if I put it on a wireless charger the Assistant would never activate. The screen would stop turning on upon picking up the device or touching the screen. I had to use the power button. I am sure Google is slowly fixing these issues with updates but from reading forums there still seem to be many issues. I will stick with my iPhone. Sure it has some problems occasionally but it is generally very reliable. Nothing like the horrible experience I had with the Pixel. Never again.
Woof. Hey man, with an experience like that I’d be staying far away too. That’s so disappointing to hear for a $900 device. I personally don’t have one. Hopefully it’s a one off problem because these are the first Pixels using a custom SoC, but it’s still unacceptable at that price point.
 
I have all my passwords saved in the Apple keychain and 100th of different „hide my mail“ addresses for platform x and y. Pretty tied in
That was their plan all along, eh? :cool:

I should probably have some more variations in my passwords, though, to be frank… if I can remember them all then surely that’s the result of a deeper problem. :p
 
You mean those like 5 phones that already support Android 12?
Although that's a funny joke years ago, today, especially Samsung, has been quiet on the roll with upgrades. Most of their last-years' mid range have received Android 12 upgrade since early this year, and practically all Samsung phones released this year have Android 12 out of the box.

The ones lagging are the Chinese, who were keep releasing new phones this year with Android 11 out of the box. Only some of their very recent phones come with Android 12.
 
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I purchased a Pixel 6 Pro twice a few months apart. I bought the second one thinking things would get better as time went on. It was a horrible experience. Not necessarily Android but the phone itself. Lots of bugs, the fingerprint scanner was horrible. I lost the ability to make calls and text people routinely. Google Assistant would barely work on the phone and if I put it on a wireless charger the Assistant would never activate. The screen would stop turning on upon picking up the device or touching the screen. I had to use the power button. I am sure Google is slowly fixing these issues with updates but from reading forums there still seem to be many issues. I will stick with my iPhone. Sure it has some problems occasionally but it is generally very reliable. Nothing like the horrible experience I had with the Pixel. Never again.
Yup. Google Pixel have been bugs galore. Funny how few tech reviewers who were honest about it. MKBHD did say something about it on his later videos. But most people online keep pretending that the Pixel as the Android Holy Grail. In reality, Google is an advertising company. Their competency in hardware is mediocre at best.
 
Hey Google, you cannot even have a proper restore function from an Android to Android phone that works properly. Seriously, I have tried Google's method when upgrading an older Android phone to a newer Android, and nothing got transferred. Seriously. It basically only catch a list of apps that are installed on the old phone and download them on the new phone, but their data are all not transferred over. And only cloud info like Gmail and contacts, which Google already have synced to their cloud anyway, got "transferred." No messaging apps data like whatsapp, wechat, line, etc got transferred over. Literally useless and I have to end up transfer everything manually.

So this thing better do something a bit more than that.
 
Definitely switch, to a Android privacy phone (de-googled Android Open Source Project). I can't tolerate 24/7 spying and location tracking by Apple any longer.
 
So if you used the apps to swap from iPhone to Android, then Android to iPhone, I wonder how much data you’d lose in the process.
My guess is very minimal. If I have to guess, the app only transfers basic things like contacts. The blog post claim it will transfer your music, but I wonder how as on iOS even the user doesn't have direct file access to songs in the music app.

The rest, I have a feeling it will be a mixed bag. I don't know how Photos will be transferred, especially if the user enabled iCloud Photos with optimize storage. Will the app only transfer low-res photos that just happened to be downloaded?

And for the apps, it will probably only gather a list of installed free apps and then find the equivalent on the Play Store and install it. Their data themselves won't get transferred. This is what Google does even when upgrading Android to Android. It literally does nothing that people expected, which is actually copy the app data so you don't lose it.

Hope I'm wrong. The test will be can it transfer whatsapp chat history from iOS to Android.
 


Google today announced that support for its Switch to Android app on iOS is rolling out to all Android 12 smartphones, which means iPhone users can now take advantage of the app's transfer features to swap over to any device that supports Android 12.

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Prior to now, the Switch to Android app for the iPhone was limited to Google's own Pixel phones, so it worked with a limited number of devices.

iPhone users who purchase an Android device can link their iPhone to the Android smartphone over WiFi or through a Lightning to USB-C cable. Data that includes apps, photos, contacts, and messages can be copied over for a more seamless transition.

Google accompanied the new support for Android 12 devices with a blog post on why iPhone users should switch over to an Android smartphone, highlighting features like the Messages app and Gboard, Google Meet, Google Play, Android privacy protections, Home screen customization, and more.

Apple has its own Move to iOS app for Android devices, which is the counterpart to Google's app. Designed for Android switchers, it allows for the transfer of messages, contacts, calendar events, photos, and more.

Article Link: iPhone Users Can Now Swap to Any Android 12 Phone With Google's 'Switch to Android' iOS App
if they have message in the cloud like Apple, then I might consider of switching
 
People in my country (PH) would love this kind of thing but iPhone to Android...? Who would even do that?
Maybe me, if I want to re-explore the Android world.

Edit:
Well, we do not have Apple/Google Stores here. Only retailers :/
 
If they want third party web browsers that actually run the proper browser engines is one really good reason. If they want an improved Google Maps experience on their car dash is another good reason (Google Maps is still superior for alternate routes and for finding POIs on the route). If they prefer Google Assistant to Siri is a good reason. If they like OS level spam call blocking is another really good reason.

I use Google maps at least weekly on my phone in the car. It works well. What is superior about the Android implementation?
 
I have some experience with Android. It’s okay. I trust Google’s data handling less though.
I am unlikely to change because life is easy when you have iphone, ipad, apple laptop and apple tv. Everything is nicely available everywhere, barely anything to set up.
 
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