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Not spreading any misinformation. Just posing a question for discussion. This feature needs proper marketing so people less tech savvy than MR readers understand how it works. Again, polite discussion leads to better understanding. Something woefully missing from our society.
It’s just because every time a new state is added or digital ID is mentioned we go through the same rigamarole again. So it gets tiring and then on top of it the same “opinions” over and over and over.
 
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I was able to add mine quickly while traveling (I thought this would’ve been geo-specific oddly).

Super quick confirmation from DMV and the setup process was interesting in itself!
 
If you’re in the developer seed or public betas of 16.2, doesn’t seem to show as an option yet. My wife on a GM release got it, but on my dev seed, it doesn’t show.
I have 16.2 PB 2 and it showed up yesterday. I installled it without any problem.

it was verified within one minute of submitting to CO Dept Rev.
 
Though the CO app offers proof of vaccination and some other goodies. Not to mention the ID in the CO app is completely different (basically a visual replica of your physical ID) than the NFC version in Wallet (a badass ram illustration). I'm keeping my CO app. 😉
Coming from NYC (who did work with IBM then pulled the plug on supporting the digital Vac records app) you don't want the state app to keep your vac records, I use direct from provider to wallet

For the second part, that's actually a feature, you don't need to show people where you live to verify your identity, NFC controlled sharing that apple wallet manage protects your privacy.
 
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Though the CO app offers proof of vaccination and some other goodies. Not to mention the ID in the CO app is completely different (basically a visual replica of your physical ID) than the NFC version in Wallet (a badass ram illustration). I'm keeping my CO app. 😉
If it's anything like the Arizona app, you are supposed to use both apps in different situations. The digital replica license app can be accepted in stores for example, which doesn't scan NFC for IDs. TSA will scan NFC for IDs. Similar to how Apple Pay and Apple Wallet do not replace your banking app.
 
It is interesting , from a French point of view , to see how the laws and possibility are so different from State to State...here it is all or nothing for everybody 😂
Think of the US like the European Union. Every state has its own laws bound by the laws of the larger whole while being protected by the same military entities.
 
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Not having to carry your physical license with you. We won't get to a point where that is practical for some years yet, but you have to start somewhere for a thing like this.

Some people are really big on the "not having to carry a wallet" kick, but I think the real problem there is a matter of what you carry - my wallet isn't much more than 1/4" thick - the choices aren't just "no wallet" or "Costanza wallet", there's a whole range in between. But I'd love to have a backup of my drivers license in my iPhone.

I will still carry my physical drivers license, but any time I can use this over it I will. The nice thing with the digital copy is that you ONLY share information that is required. For example getting into a bar, it will only share your birthdate and photo for them to verify. This protects people from having their address or other details visible, for people who don’t need to see them. Like a sketchy bouncer doesn’t need that beautiful woman’s home address.

This is going to be an unpopular opinion, but hear me out.

During a traffic stop, you pop your phone out to show the cop your license. They take the phone to their car computer and, while it’s unlocked, they connect to it and download your information. They find references to drugs. They arrest you.

Dystopian future or possible reality? Just playing Devil’s Advocate. I don’t think this would play out, but is it worth giving them the opportunity?

I probably won’t add my license to my phone.

You don’t hand over your phone, it works like ApplePay. You scan your device via NFC and bam, just the NEEDED details are shared.
 
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It’s not for me. But, I just realized I still have my 12 Pro Max. It’s running 16.1. It’s there. Gonna add it from there. Not sure if it will move over. I would think it would.
The Department of Revenue’s Facebook page said it was a staged rollout. I guess they’re rolling it out on a per-device, rather than per-account, basis. I myself didn’t get the option on 16.2 beta 2 until this morning.

I’m pretty sure your ID will be stored in the Secure Enclave just like payment cards (it’s stored alongside them in the Wallet app). So it won’t sync to your iCloud account and “move over” to your main phone. This would be consistent with the per-device rollout.

I’m also not sure they want to allow people to duplicate their IDs onto multiple devices that we could then hand over to others. I would wait to add your ID to your main device.
 
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The Department of Revenue’s Facebook page said it was a staged rollout. I didn’t have the option on 16.2 beta 2 until this morning. I guess they’re rolling it out on a per-device, rather than per-account, basis.

I’m pretty sure your ID will be stored in the Secure Enclave just like payment cards (it’s stored alongside them in the Wallet app). So it won’t sync to your iCloud account and “move over” to your main phone. This would be consistent with the per-device rollout.

I’m also not sure they want to allow people to duplicate their IDs onto multiple devices that we could then hand over to others. I would wait to add your ID to your main device.
Excellent point about the Secure Enclave. I knew that. I blame lack of sleep.
 
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i have to wait for a letter to recieve a verification code to finish my set up which could take 7-10 days sigh any way i could get the code faster?
 
No, it's a depressingly popular opinion, that is ENTIRELY WRONG.

They're not allowed to take it back to their car, they have to read the information off the screen while you hold the phone (either via NFC or QR code or just visually reading the info), and the card is in Apple Wallet, so you had to authenticate via Face ID or Touch ID to bring it up, but your phone is not unlocked - even if they took it back to their car, they can't download a damn thing, no snooping around looking for drug references. They can't arrest you, but if they grab your phone and carry it away, you can press charges against them.

Stop spreading misinformation!
Not trying to argue, but please show me a line of law from any state laws that says that, "police are not allowed to handle your phone". LOL. Dude, you can make your point without embellishing and exaggerating. That's like saying, "they can't take your license back to their car". They are both items that belong to you and both items someone voluntarily handed over. You show me a law that says an officer can not leave your car window and go back to their vehicle to write you a ticket. That's you OPINION, not a law. Technology always has a disconnect and tech (especially mobile technology) usually exceeds the resources and means for something newly launched to be used exactly as envisioned or intended at launch. Even police officers will have to adjust to it and become used to it and doing it differently. I also think (not sure) that there is fine print that not all states that allow an Apple Wallet version of a license still won't require a physical license to operate a vehicle. For the most part, these digital ID's in the Apple Wallet are approved for use only at CERTAIN TSA checkpoints in airports. Not all airlines allow them, nor all states and cities. It is all still very fractioned.

"The feature does not replace a physical ID in all situations yet. For example, Apple makes no mention of IDs in the Wallet app being accepted by law enforcement or the government, so carrying a physical ID is still a necessity for now."

But claiming above that,, "they are not allowed to take it back to their car, they have to read the information off the screen while you hold the phone".....is not true and I would challenge you to show me any laws that state that in any of the participating states. Maybe what you meant to say is that they are not allowed to "perform a search" of your phone?

For the record, I dislike cops and am very anti cop and government. I'd only have my digital license in my Apple Wallet as a backup for some unforeseen situation and would continue to use my physical ID like I do now for everyday use. I'd also imagine bars, clubs, etc will be very hit and miss on accepting them.

Overall is it a "cool" feature, yes. How useful it will be or practical we will see
 
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Not trying to argue, but please show me a line of law from any state laws that says that, "police are not allowed to handle your phone". LOL. Dude, you can make your point without embellishing and exaggerating. That's like saying, "they can't take your license back to their car". They are both items that belong to you and both items someone voluntarily handed over. You show me a law that says an officer can not leave your car window and go back to their vehicle to write you a ticket. That's you OPINION, not a law. Technology always has a disconnect and tech (especially mobile technology) usually exceeds the resources and means for something newly launched to be used exactly as envisioned or intended at launch. Even police officers will have to adjust to it and become used to it and doing it differently. I also think (not sure) that there is fine print that not all states that allow an Apple Wallet version of a license still won't require a physical license to operate a vehicle. For the most part, these digital ID's in the Apple Wallet are approved for use only at CERTAIN TSA checkpoints in airports. Not all airlines allow them, nor all states and cities. It is all still very fractioned.

"The feature does not replace a physical ID in all situations yet. For example, Apple makes no mention of IDs in the Wallet app being accepted by law enforcement or the government, so carrying a physical ID is still a necessity for now."

But claiming above that,, "they are not allowed to take it back to their car, they have to read the information off the screen while you hold the phone".....is not true and I would challenge you to show me any laws that state that in any of the participating states. Maybe what you meant to say is that they are not allowed to "perform a search" of your phone?

For the record, I dislike cops and am very anti cop and government. I'd only have my digital license in my Apple Wallet as a backup for some unforeseen situation and would continue to use my physical ID like I do now for everyday use. I'd also imagine bars, clubs, etc will be very hit and miss on accepting them.

Overall is it a "cool" feature, yes. How useful it will be or practical we will see
Why is it that its always these guys that have the strongest misguided opinions?
 

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This is going to be an unpopular opinion, but hear me out.

During a traffic stop, you pop your phone out to show the cop your license. They take the phone to their car computer and, while it’s unlocked, they connect to it and download your information. They find references to drugs. They arrest you.

Dystopian future or possible reality? Just playing Devil’s Advocate. I don’t think this would play out, but is it worth giving them the opportunity?

I probably won’t add my license to my phone.

Not trying to argue, but please show me a line of law from any state laws that says that, "police are not allowed to handle your phone". LOL. Dude, you can make your point without embellishing and exaggerating. That's like saying, "they can't take your license back to their car". They are both items that belong to you and both items someone voluntarily handed over. You show me a law that says an officer can not leave your car window and go back to their vehicle to write you a ticket. That's you OPINION, not a law. Technology always has a disconnect and tech (especially mobile technology) usually exceeds the resources and means for something newly launched to be used exactly as envisioned or intended at launch. Even police officers will have to adjust to it and become used to it and doing it differently. I also think (not sure) that there is fine print that not all states that allow an Apple Wallet version of a license still won't require a physical license to operate a vehicle. For the most part, these digital ID's in the Apple Wallet are approved for use only at CERTAIN TSA checkpoints in airports. Not all airlines allow them, nor all states and cities. It is all still very fractioned.

"The feature does not replace a physical ID in all situations yet. For example, Apple makes no mention of IDs in the Wallet app being accepted by law enforcement or the government, so carrying a physical ID is still a necessity for now."

But claiming above that,, "they are not allowed to take it back to their car, they have to read the information off the screen while you hold the phone".....is not true and I would challenge you to show me any laws that state that in any of the participating states. Maybe what you meant to say is that they are not allowed to "perform a search" of your phone?

For the record, I dislike cops and am very anti cop and government. I'd only have my digital license in my Apple Wallet as a backup for some unforeseen situation and would continue to use my physical ID like I do now for everyday use. I'd also imagine bars, clubs, etc will be very hit and miss on accepting them.

Overall is it a "cool" feature, yes. How useful it will be or practical we will see
That falls under your 4th amendment against unlawful search and seizure. You don't need a separate state law.
 
Does anyone know if my Federal Passport ID card will be able to be imported? I would've thought this would've been one of the first as it is used by many who travel within the US...
Opening the Wallet app, tapping the "+" in the upper right corner, the most relevant choice is "Driver's License or State ID". Tapping that lists Arizona, Colorado, and Maryland. No passport options of any type (this on the public release of iOS 16.2).
 
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