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Confirming on Rav4. Carplay button on car’s screen didn’t open carplay.

Had to open carplay settings on the phone, go into the car’s profile. Then in the Toyota settings had to disconnect/reconnect bluetooth to my phone. That fixed it.
I ended up doing the exact same thing on my Toyota Yaris Cross.
 
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Wireless CarPlay in Škoda Octavia is dropping connection like crazy at certain locations of my daily commute.
 
It's working okay for me. I did have to reboot my head unit this morning, but I have to do that every few days anyway.

VW Tiguan.
 
I would be very annoyed if I had these problems as I use CarPlay daily while working so I feel for the users having to deal with this. Fortunately I seem to have been spared on my 2023 Civic with iPhone 15 Pro.

I’m disappointed I didn’t get the extra row of icons though. My trim is the Sport Touring with the larger 10” display. I wonder what the display size requirement is to get the extra row. Anyone know?
 
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16PM in a ‘25 Z71 Tahoe wouldn’t launch after the update but it did after rebooting the 16PM.
 
No issues here, but I use a cheap aftermarket CarPlay screen plugged into the Aux port on my older MINI
 
The instrument cluster bugs have been reported across numerous vehicle models including the 2025 Honda Civic Hybrid, 2025 Mazda CX-30, various 2024 Honda models, multiple Volkswagen vehicles, the 2023 Audi S3, and the 2023 Nissan Frontier.
The Mazda CX-30 does not support CarPlay in the instrument cluster. I have one. I wish it did, but I haven’t had any issues either way.
 
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any individual software quality incident by itself is proof of nothing, but taken together they paint a concerning picture of steadily declining software quality at Apple

what we can debate over is what the cause of all this is:

- Is it an increased focus on revenue and profit? ("the Tim Apple" crowd)
- Is it the result Apple's rapid head count growth and the ensuing complexity of communication and coordination?
- Is it the growing complexity of software over time?
- Is it the lack of a singular focus at the top? ("everything would be different if Steve were alive")

My hypothesis is that it's a combination of all four.

It's also why I am pessimistic about Apple's ability to fix this to any significant degree.

I don't quite understand why Craig Federighi's responsibility is always overlooked.

He's the head of all software. Basically all complaints about Apple are software related.

Everyone always calls for Tim's head, but why doesn't anyone ever ask if it's time for Craig to spend more time with his money?

I guess as CEO everything is ultimately his fault / credit. So maybe it's just that he's not managing his people well. But the upper echelon seems kind of frozen in time. Unless they're squashing some (real or potential) coup attempt as seemed to be the case with Forstall, it seems like anyone that was a lieutenant to Steve is untouchable.
 
After hard reset finally able to connect via wireless (cable still not working) on VW Tiguan 2023.
 
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15Pro in 2019 CX-9.

Only bug I see is app dependent. The selection highlight vanishes and I can’t select anything in Prism or Plexamp.
 
any individual software quality incident by itself is proof of nothing, but taken together they paint a concerning picture of steadily declining software quality at Apple

what we can debate over is what the cause of all this is:

- Is it an increased focus on revenue and profit? ("the Tim Apple" crowd)
- Is it the result Apple's rapid head count growth and the ensuing complexity of communication and coordination?
- Is it the growing complexity of software over time?
- Is it the lack of a singular focus at the top? ("everything would be different if Steve were alive")

My hypothesis is that it's a combination of all four.

It's also why I am pessimistic about Apple's ability to fix this to any significant degree.
I don't think 4 is much of a concern, it's been more than a decade, and things didn't immediately fall apart when he departed, nor did some of his grandiose ideas pan out. I'm specifically thinking of the "We've cracked the TV market," which was essentially just another set-top box.

It seems that Apple is a sales organization more concentrated on growth than the product. They clearly don't have the development side that a company of their worth deserves, which is why the changes in the software are so small year on year. Its also why products like CarPlay 2 are DOA, because no one is going to give over their entire dashboard to a company whose consistently left the first version behind.

I personally haven't had issues on my 2023 Toyota or 2025 Subaru, but we use Carplay over wifi, so maybe thats part of it. I just know that there isn't that excitement I used to get around new features because I always wonder what they're going to break that a simple test would have shown is a problem.
 
I don't quite understand why Craig Federighi's responsibility is always overlooked.

He's the head of all software. Basically all complaints about Apple are software related.

Everyone always calls for Tim's head, but why doesn't anyone ever ask if it's time for Craig to spend more time with his money?

I guess as CEO everything is ultimately his fault / credit. So maybe it's just that he's not managing his people well. But the upper echelon seems kind of frozen in time. Unless they're squashing some (real or potential) coup attempt as seemed to be the case with Forstall, it seems like anyone that was a lieutenant to Steve is untouchable.
People call for Tim's head because of how much he is paid to get rid of people like Craig when they underperform. He just cashed in 1/3rd of a previous years vested stock options which is more than most of us will see in our entire lifetime. That seems undeserved when we have issues like this.
 
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any individual software quality incident by itself is proof of nothing, but taken together they paint a concerning picture of steadily declining software quality at Apple

what we can debate over is what the cause of all this is:

- Is it an increased focus on revenue and profit? ("the Tim Apple" crowd)
- Is it the result Apple's rapid head count growth and the ensuing complexity of communication and coordination?
- Is it the growing complexity of software over time?
- Is it the lack of a singular focus at the top? ("everything would be different if Steve were alive")

My hypothesis is that it's a combination of all four.

It's also why I am pessimistic about Apple's ability to fix this to any significant degree.

A debate? Really? No, it's just a bug. A mistake. Expecting 100% perfection 100% of the time when humans are involved is unrealistic.

Life goes on. Planet Earth will continue to rotate into the Sun's rays tomorrow. No worries.
 
Each new feature and functionality is added into an extremely complex web of interdependencies.

It's natural and often inevitable that things break.

The problem seems to be more on the QA side which should catch these before they are released into the wild.

My firm belief: Apple knows darn well what bugs exist yet they release the software anyway. Why? Because then you are forced to upgrade to another iOS in hopes that your bug(s) that drive you crazy will be fixed. When will they be fixed? You never know (unless you are a diehard MacRumors fan and follow the iOS news articles). Apple then proudly advertises that 92% of the iOS population have upgraded which in turn makes Wall Street and investors believe that end users are sooooo excited for new and exciting features when realistically, a decent percentage of them are praying for some fixes.

That's my belief for the past 10 years.

My biggest iOS bug that is currently driving me nuts is that on my new iPhone 16 Pro with iOS 18 (I upgraded from an iPhone 13 Pro with whatever old iOS originally came with it) the MP3 artwork on my library is all messed up when the song plays! Artwork is just fine in iTunes. But when you play Madonna for example, I will get some non-Madonna artwork from another MP3 files on my iPhone.

This bug has been around for over a year from what I can tell. It's totally infuriating.
 
This has been happening since the 15 Pro launch. You did an article about it. Apple sent me a replacement phone outside of even using my Apple Care and the problem is still there.
 
A debate? Really? No, it's just a bug. A mistake. Expecting 100% perfection 100% of the time when humans are involved is unrealistic.

Life goes on. Planet Earth will continue to rotate into the Sun's rays tomorrow. No worries.

you might want to read the first sentence of my post again
 
No issue with my iPhone 16 Pro. The car play connects perfectly. It disconnects when the car turns off, even for a second, which is normal.
 
iOS 18.4 CarPlay Siri, "Cathy says "Hello." Do you want to reply?"
Me, "No."
Siri, "What do you want to say to Cathy?"
Me, [no response]
Siri, "Sending, "What do you want to say to Cathy?""
FB17115429
 
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any individual software quality incident by itself is proof of nothing, but taken together they paint a concerning picture of steadily declining software quality at Apple

what we can debate over is what the cause of all this is:

- Is it an increased focus on revenue and profit? ("the Tim Apple" crowd)
- Is it the result Apple's rapid head count growth and the ensuing complexity of communication and coordination?
- Is it the growing complexity of software over time?
- Is it the lack of a singular focus at the top? ("everything would be different if Steve were alive")

My hypothesis is that it's a combination of all four.

It's also why I am pessimistic about Apple's ability to fix this to any significant degree.
It may have something to do with the millions of different iPhones and the millions of different of cars.
 
It may have something to do with the millions of different iPhones and the millions of different of cars.
There aren’t millions of different iPhone configurations and millions of different car entertainment system configurations. A corporation the size of Apple can easily handle testing and verification across the vast majority of actual permutations. But it won’t happen if software quality and user experience are not really priorities in the corporate culture, especially at top management.
 
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