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There is a group of nerds here in Phx Az who make Verizon iphones for $ 500 not including the phone i have used one these phones the features are the same except that the vcast is used as the internet. I am not sure of the full process but i do know it involvers parts from a Verizon voyager and is fairly simple to i do. They also do memory upgrades.

I call total BS on this.
 
That 700 Mhz range is US only, not global. AT&T also won a piece of that pie as well. ;)
The FCC is a US entity, not a global one, so they cannot assign anything outside the US. So I fail to see how this will make VZ a bigger player in the global market.
And VZ is opening their network up to other CDMA phones that meet their requirements to be on their network.
Read press releases, don't just skim them. :rolleyes:

Isn't T-mobile the biggest carrier worldwide? or is that Virgin? One of the two I think.
 
There is a group of nerds here in Phx Az who make Verizon iphones for $ 500 not including the phone i have used one these phones the features are the same except that the vcast is used as the internet. I am not sure of the full process but i do know it involvers parts from a Verizon voyager and is fairly simple to i do. They also do memory upgrades.

I've heard about these guys. It's really advanced stuff they are doing. I don't want to be the one blamed for giving away their secrets so you didn't hear this from me. Here's how it's done:

  1. Bob goes to the Apple Store and buys an iPhone
  2. Bob goes to Phoenix and hands over his new, unopened iPhone to the above mentioned "group of nerds"
  3. Bob is instructed to return in 24 hours
The "group of nerds" perform the highly technical steps below. Don't worry if you don't understand this techy mumbo jumbo. All that is important is that Bob will have a Verizon iPhone in the end.
  1. Nerd A goes to Craig's List and searches for an unactivated new or used (either will work) LG Voyager
  2. While Nerd A is making the purchase, Nerd B heads to the mall and finds the kiosk where they sell custom stickers
  3. Nerd B buys a small Apple logo and "iPhone" in small text
  4. Nerd A and Nerd B meet back at the secret Nerd Cave and meet Nerd C
  5. Nerd C ever so carefully applies the stickers to the back of the Voyager
  6. During the application of the stickers by Nerd C, Nerds A and B burn the box and all documentation that came with the Voyager
  7. After the stickers have been applied, Nerd C begins the delicate task of gluing the phone shut so that you don't find the keyboard inside (the discovery of a keyboard might make Bob think that something is not right)
  8. Nerds A and B then carefully open the real iPhone, hide it, and then put the "Verizon iPhone" in the box
The memory upgrade is far too complicated to describe here but it involves what's known as a "Micro SD Card". This of course is an extra charge for the card and installation.

When Bob returns the next day, he brings his $500 and picks up his new Verizon iPhone. He then calls Verizon, activates his phone, and enjoys having an iPhone on the Verizon network. Bob then laughs at all the suckers who paid the ETF to get out of their Verizon contract and switched to AT&T.

*Note: the names have been changed to protect the identities of the individual nerds and Bob is a fictional representation of one of the customers using the services of the group of nerds.

:rolleyes:
 
I think that the day of creating a wireless device for a specific carrier is coming to an end. One day every phone sold and used will use the same technology. Carriers will not lock down features of the phone and all will be good.

We don't have to use a specific telephone for one land line company and another for another company...everything just works.

The only way that system of choosing the phone and carrier independently can occur is if Sprint and Alltel join AT&T, T-Mobile, and (in 3 years) Verizon in the GSM camp. Besides, current GSM devices are loosely customized (switching the universal "internet" button with a T or a globe; for AT&T, adding Media.net and CV apps; for T-mobile, adding MyFaves and (insert T-mobile's cellular internet name) apps). It's the CDMA phones that are more custom-tailored for the carriers, especially current Verizon phones.
 
Fte

FTE is basically what both AT&T and Verizion will be using 'soon' and by soon I mean 2010-2012

Maybe then Verzion might have the iPhone. Seeing that both companies share the same technology there won't be a reason to make two different models, one for GSM/EDGE/HSDA and one for CDMA.
 
FTE is basically what both AT&T and Verizion will be using 'soon' and by soon I mean 2010-2012

Maybe then Verzion might have the iPhone. Seeing that both companies share the same technology there won't be a reason to make two different models, one for GSM/EDGE/HSDA and one for CDMA.

1) IIRC, it's LTE, not FTE (unless it's a regional language/vernacular difference)
2) The iPhone will never be on Verizon. Why? Because Apple and Verizon have big egos and will never get along. They didn't get along the first time around; what makes you think it'll happen a second time?
 
1) IIRC, it's LTE, not FTE (unless it's a regional language/vernacular difference)
2) The iPhone will never be on Verizon. Why? Because Apple and Verizon have big egos and will never get along. They didn't get along the first time around; what makes you think it'll happen a second time?

Sorry, it is LTE.

Mind you, this is speculation.... that is why I used maybe. I was just pointing out that the two biggest telecom companies in the US are going to be using the same 4G technology and there might be a possibility.

Apple is like any company that wants to sell as much as they can, adding another service provider would helped them sell their phone to those that won't switch due to brand loyalty or because of that is the service their employer uses.

I truly don't care I switched from Verizon to At&t last summer and yet to have any complains about either company.
 
You can call it BS all you want but i only believed it after i used it. The guy who actually does it works at the a Kiosk that installs Ghost Armor on phones in the Arizona Mills Mall in Tempe Az 85283. I talked with him he will do it for 500 and he told me how he actually buys new voyagers and guts them to make them. you should give him a call if u dont believe me i think he is the manager of the kiosk so it wouldn't be that hard to get in touch with him. Hes not the only one out there with one also. He says there at least 200-300 more just like his.
 
Sorry, it is LTE.

Mind you, this is speculation.... that is why I used maybe. I was just pointing out that the two biggest telecom companies in the US are going to be using the same 4G technology and there might be a possibility.

Apple is like any company that wants to sell as much as they can, adding another service provider would helped them sell their phone to those that won't switch due to brand loyalty or because of that is the service their employer uses.

I truly don't care I switched from Verizon to At&t last summer and yet to have any complains about either company.

Well, if Apple truly does go with the "choose your carrier" format in Europe and it pays off, we may see it here as well. But I wouldn't expect to see visual voicemail on Verizon or T-mobile if Apple went that route.
 
Regardless if the choose your carrier option, I don't see Apple making 2 versions of the iPhone (GSM and CDMA)

Verizon won't be getting an iPhone anytime soon
 
You can call it BS all you want but i only believed it after i used it. The guy who actually does it works at the a Kiosk that installs Ghost Armor on phones in the Arizona Mills Mall in Tempe Az 85283. I talked with him he will do it for 500 and he told me how he actually buys new voyagers and guts them to make them. you should give him a call if u dont believe me i think he is the manager of the kiosk so it wouldn't be that hard to get in touch with him. Hes not the only one out there with one also. He says there at least 200-300 more just like his.

Regardless of what this guy does he is not selling Verizon iPhones. It is at most a bastardized version which IS NOT an iPhone
 
You can call it BS all you want but i only believed it after i used it. The guy who actually does it works at the a Kiosk that installs Ghost Armor on phones in the Arizona Mills Mall in Tempe Az 85283. I talked with him he will do it for 500 and he told me how he actually buys new voyagers and guts them to make them. you should give him a call if u dont believe me i think he is the manager of the kiosk so it wouldn't be that hard to get in touch with him. Hes not the only one out there with one also. He says there at least 200-300 more just like his.
Oh really... go take a picture of one. Better yet, a video of them making one.
I'd love to know what "parts" they claim to be pulling from a Voyager to stick into an iPhone.
Sure as hell ain't the CDMA radio as the iPhone firmware, baseband and OS do not support the hardware or any CDMA comm protocols.
There are so many things they would have to recode and redesign that it would not be cost effective.

Complete and total BS. Someone is yanking your chain hardcore.
 
I guess us verizon users will have to eat it.

Not now nor will it be any time soon avalible on the verizon network. Get used to it! If you want one that bad switch to one of the crapiest network around and get yourself one. I have verizon and want the iPhone but to bad for me I can't and there is no way I am switching to AT&T to get it. Maybe someday Verizon will be able to combine nice phone's to go with there great service, but for now we deal with lousy phone's with good service. That's the traid off I guess.
 
You can call it BS all you want but i only believed it after i used it. The guy who actually does it works at the a Kiosk that installs Ghost Armor on phones in the Arizona Mills Mall in Tempe Az 85283. I talked with him he will do it for 500 and he told me how he actually buys new voyagers and guts them to make them. you should give him a call if u dont believe me i think he is the manager of the kiosk so it wouldn't be that hard to get in touch with him. Hes not the only one out there with one also. He says there at least 200-300 more just like his.

I apologize if I was harsh in my earlier post. When you said "group of nerds" I didn't realize you meant one guy that works a kiosk in the Arizona Mills Mall in Tempe AZ 85283. I thought you were talking about a group of engineers with full time jobs and I thought "there's no way highly educated, highly paid, incredibly smart engineers would have time or the desire to do this". Now that you've given us more detail, I can see how one guy that works part-time at a kiosk in the Arizona Mills Mall in Tempe AZ 85283 would have plenty of spare time and the necessary resources (both financial and technical) to pull this off.

Can you give us the mailing address for the Arizona Mills Mall in Tempe AZ 85283? I'm want to ship him my iPhone, a Voyager, and $500 in cash tomorrow.
 
LMAO :D
:p:p:p:D

I apologize if I was harsh in my earlier post. When you said "group of nerds" I didn't realize you meant one guy that works a kiosk in the Arizona Mills Mall in Tempe AZ 85283. I thought you were talking about a group of engineers with full time jobs and I thought "there's no way highly educated, highly paid, incredibly smart engineers would have time or the desire to do this". Now that you've given us more detail, I can see how one guy that works part-time at a kiosk in the Arizona Mills Mall in Tempe AZ 85283 would have plenty of spare time and the necessary resources (both financial and technical) to pull this off.

Can you give us the mailing address for the Arizona Mills Mall in Tempe AZ 85283? I'm want to ship him my iPhone, a Voyager, and $500 in cash tomorrow.
 
AT&T is not the crappiest network. Depending on the location its just as good and times better than verizon. Along with their junk phones and vcast crap
I couldn't agree more.
Verizon has horrible service here in NE Phoenix. I had a Verizon phone that was provided to me for work purposes and the only way I could make a phone call at home was to go outside. Had several different models swapped out, but it still sucked. My company has since replaced it with an AT&T phone.

My AT&T signal is crystal clear everywhere I go.

So to say one is better than the other is purely subjective.
 
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