849,000 iPhones sold every day
35,375 iPhones sold every hour for 91 days
589 sold every minute
Wow. Just wow
35,375 iPhones sold every hour for 91 days
589 sold every minute
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iPhone Was Best Selling Smartphone in Q4 2017 Amid Industry Wide Decline
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Only if they could have built them and there were plenty of reports of supply constraints.
Yes, but Apple's 4th quarter was one week shorter than prior quarters. Samsung's probably was not. Also, Apple's ASP is over three times that of Samsung so the majority of Samsung's sales in both this quarter and in the year overall were low-price "feature phones" sold in markets Apple does not compete in.
So when Samsung announces strong sales in the quarter they launch the new Galaxy, we should be sure to note that it is "stupid reporting" because it was not the quarter Apple launched the new iPhone.
Not stupid, but I would consider it a bit concerning, as the 4th Quarter is Apple's big quarter for it's iPhone. They only beat out Samsung by 2.9M phones, and sold less iPhones then the previous year's 4th quarter. I have not followed the numbers, but I can see they just barely sold more iPhones vs Samsung in 2016 as well. I have not followed these numbers in the past, but was Samsung that close in previous years in the 4th quarter? Doesn't Samsung release their new phones in the 1st or 2nd quarter of the year?.... Just my observation.
Do not forget that Apple's Average Sales Price per phone is some three times that of Samsung's. So Samsung is selling more phones overall, but the majority of them are low-price "feature phones" sold to markets Apple does not compete in.
ok, I get that the iPhone x is the top selling iPhone every week since it's launch. Remember, there are 5 models being sold (at least at Apple as NEW). So, these are numbers and not actual facts, as Apple doesn't give you any facts other than "iPhone X" is best selling iPhone.....that means it could be iPhone X sold 100, iPhone 8 sold 99 and iPhone 7 sold 98, iPhone 6s sold 97 & iPhone SE sold 96. When you see the numbers, that doesn't look so impressive, just looks diverse. T
More and more people realizing they do not have to get the newest phones every year. I work with some people who make good money, and the most utilized iphones are 6/6s'. There are as many X's as 5's/SE's.
But this is expected with a new flagship model. If the iPhone X was not the top selling phone, I think it would it would be a problem.
I never thought it would not sell well. Plus you are probably just referring to people on MR and in the tech community, not the general public. If what many posts and prediction on tech forums actually came true, then Apple should have gone out of business shortly after antenna-gate.
So again, imo it isn't impressive that a new flagship iPhone is outselling older models since the new model's launch. If it didn't then that would probably be a bad sign.
Perhaps, but if it's true that the display is driving up the cost, Apple would have been reducing their profit line, and handing it to Samsung.
Hard to believe this being something Apple would want to do.
I have to admit I’m splitting hairs here.
I didn’t buy an iPhone X.
My wife, who had an iPhone 5 did.
When she asked me if I wanted to buy a new phone near Christmas I said no. Not an 8 or a X. I just don’t see a feature that is on any of those phones that is worth buying compared to the iPhone 6+ that I have. No gee whiz drop dead feature that I really wanted.
I’m impressed with the processors capabilities, the camera has nice specs....
Hate the removal of the 3.5 mm Jack.
Haven’t seen much in the way of AR since the new phones launch and don’t know anyone using it. To me both VR and AR are technology looking for something to do, and so far no ones come up with anything compelling.
I will put my phone on the list to get a new battery but after that I think I’m set.
And that's Samsung's fault how? This article was about Smart Phones SOLD...not money made. Obvious those less expensive smart phones work for the people they buy it for. And I believe it was brought up that Samsung sells in markets that Apple doesn't, again, not Samsung's fault. I still think it's impressive that, the companies listed above can still sell that many smart phones year in and out.
OTOH, phones are 70% of Apple’s business vs a much smaller part of Samsung’s.
No, It wasn't expected. That's just it. Then we had analysts weighing in how the iPhone X would be a failure because it was widely available after a few weeks after the launch, price point, controversial "Notch." Regardless, that was all superseded and I think many were pleasantly surprised how well the iPhone X actually did sell considering all the negative rhetoric that followed behind it.
It wasn't just the negativity from Macrumors, it was plenty of the reviews that were divulged shortly after the iPhone X launch and after the embargo was lifted. For instance, "Face ID would be a failure", "The iPhone X is too expensive", "No one will buy it", etc. There was plenty negativity surrounding this iPhone outside tech forms, it's just a matter if you listen to it or not. Alas, I just enjoy reading/hearing naysayers getting debunked.
Thanks for your opinion. But again, not what I was referring to about any other iPhone in comparison or relevancy to the iPhone X. I was strictly speaking just for the iPhone X, being it's a brand new device from separating away from the past four generations of iPhones that we have been introduced too, hence the 6/6s/7/8 form factor.
do u really think that people who don't want to buy overpriced X would go for tiny SE instead? No, I don't think so
Agreed. Entirely two different segments of phones and offers different features, etc. The iPhone SE is really for somebody that wants the small 4 inch form factor and doesn't care about having some of the latest technology. The SE is about portability and comfortability with one handed use.
No problem
Yea, but it doesn't change the fact that this same thing happens every single time a new flagship model comes out. Therefore, not impressive.
What would be impressive, is if the 5C became the top seller for weeks after it's launch. Because that doesn't happen every year.
Every flagship model has similar reports, mostly supply line issue, but other issues too (glass of the 4 and then then antenna, scratches of the 5, just to name a few. This is nothing new.
Do the weighted average of selling prices and you'll see it's impossible for the iPhone X to not be a major factor in driving ASP to $800.
You can't sell nearly as many iPhone 6s and 7 while having an ASP of $800.
The X was a hit. It's official.
I tend to buy higher end with pretty much anything. So a computer will have the best processor, biggest hard drive and most memory that I can afford and the it will be 8 years until I look for another. Same with cars, I’ll push to as much as I can budget. We own 2 cars, a 2005 at 275,000 miles and a 2010 with 110,000. We will probably look for a replacement next year for the 2005. 300,000 miles and 14 winters take a toll.
I will admit that $1000 is in part a mental barrier. But if there had been something in this years phones I probably would have bought one. We keep banking our monthly payment after the phone is paid off so I have most of a new phone set aside. But right now there’s not a phone by anyone that I think is worth upgrading to.
Did you miss the part where the poster mentioned ASP? Of those 309 million Samsung sold, only about 60 or so million are the Galaxy S or Note. The rest are low end sub $100 phones. This is why Samsung ASP hovers around the low-mid $200 range.
You can look at sales for the year, but you also have to exclude the gazillion low-end phones Samsung sells.
I know quite a few people that didn't buy the X, but not because of price.
They didn't buy it because the overall device size was smaller than they like.
They want an X+ and are willing to pay the additional money to get it.
So with as many as are being sold for $1000+ there is still pent up demand for an X+.
For the one I would buy, it would cost me $1149 + $199 for AppleCare + ~140 in tax.
So we are looking at a $1500 phone. I won't do it. Not that I can't. I won't.
They didn't buy it because the overall device size was smaller than they like.
They want an X+ and are willing to pay the additional money to get it.
So with as many as are being sold for $1000+ there is still pent up demand for an X+.
For the one I would buy, it would cost me $1149 + $199 for AppleCare + ~140 in tax.
So we are looking at a $1500 phone. I won't do it. Not that I can't. I won't.
Well they could make more appealing high-end smartphone models to expand their marketshare in that segment.
It is, but so many pundits, analysts and forum members equate sales volume with success. Samsung can sell more phones than Apple and lose money on every one of them whereas Apple can sell less phones and make more money than any other company on the planet and yet Apple is the one who is somehow "doomed" to financial insolvency.
True, which is why it is important that Apple can generate the profits they do from them. If they were making "Samsung Money", they'd be far worse off than they are now.
Honest question...
Does anyone know if Apple Care+ would be apart of the ASP of the iPhone? or would that be included in services or other?
Small example of unit sales mix to get to an $800 ASP. Obviously, there are many options, but this is what I chose to visualize how many iPhone X could have been sold in relation to other phones.
Model Price Units
SE $349 750
6s $449 500
6s Plus $549 750
7 $549 1,000
7 Plus $669 1,200
8 $699 3,000
8 Plus $799 4,000
X $999 6,000
So the iPhone X had to get 35% of all iPhones sold to get to that $800. Now I know there are different storage configurations, but I just used the starting price for each phone. The X 256GB was probably even more popular than the 64GB, but that should even out. Look how many X have to be sold to get the number high enough. I think my mix is pretty reasonable. You start selling more 6s and 7 like people think, you have to sell even MORE X to get the price up. Every phone you sell under $800 drags the ASP down fast.
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Model Price Units
SE $349 750
6s $449 500
6s Plus $549 750
7 $549 1,000
7 Plus $669 1,200
8 $699 3,000
8 Plus $799 4,000
X $999 6,000
So the iPhone X had to get 35% of all iPhones sold to get to that $800. Now I know there are different storage configurations, but I just used the starting price for each phone. The X 256GB was probably even more popular than the 64GB, but that should even out. Look how many X have to be sold to get the number high enough. I think my mix is pretty reasonable. You start selling more 6s and 7 like people think, you have to sell even MORE X to get the price up. Every phone you sell under $800 drags the ASP down fast.
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AppleCare is included in services revenue. Separate item. ASP is a representation of the phone itself.
Big win for Apple. The X was a huge hit and easily worth the money. In the premium market, $200 is nothing.