Yes, and Motorola has to quit the market with 41m sold! Long way to go for Apple.
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iPhone with 28% of U.S. Smartphone Marketshare for Q4 2007
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Yes, and Motorola has to quit the market with 41m sold! Long way to go for Apple.
On my recent trek around the right half of the US, I saw a ton of iPhones everywhere. I easily saw more iPhones in the last week than all the iPods I ever saw combined.
Of course, the observation is skewed: I notice iPhones. I don't notice Blackberries. People tend to hold the iPhone more than the iPod, or at the very least, use them more frequently than the iPod.
(Similarly, seems like most notebooks in the airport were a PB/MBP)
Of course, the observation is skewed: I notice iPhones. I don't notice Blackberries. People tend to hold the iPhone more than the iPod, or at the very least, use them more frequently than the iPod.
(Similarly, seems like most notebooks in the airport were a PB/MBP)
I mean on new devices sold.
'up more than 43 percent from the three-month period ending September.'
Wow . . . my maths-brain is tingling.
So . . . Apple at 28%
And this is more than Palm at 9% and Windows [other] at 21%???
9+21 = 30 . . . ?
And, stacking the odds in the favour of Apple . . .
8.49999 (8.5) + 20.49999 (20.5) = 29, which is still higher than the maximum Apple could have using any kind of rounding (28.49999 = 28.5%)
Apple appears to NOT have a higher share of the market than Palm and Windows, does it not?
So . . . Apple at 28%
And this is more than Palm at 9% and Windows [other] at 21%???
9+21 = 30 . . . ?
And, stacking the odds in the favour of Apple . . .
8.49999 (8.5) + 20.49999 (20.5) = 29, which is still higher than the maximum Apple could have using any kind of rounding (28.49999 = 28.5%)
Apple appears to NOT have a higher share of the market than Palm and Windows, does it not?
But weren't most of Motorola's offerings cheap phones that are given away as free or low-cost to new customers? The numbers are meaningless if Motorola wasn't actually earning anything from it. A company like Apple could conceivably sell fewer phones and earn more from it than someone like Motorola--exactly what they do in the computer market, come to think of it.
"Nokia sold a staggering 133.5m mobiles"
But
"Apple shifted 2.3m iPhones"
No bias there
"Nokia sold a staggering 133.5m mobiles"
But
"Apple shifted 2.3m iPhones"
No bias there
Did not want to change researcher´s take on the statistics
math brain
The statement does not include the word combined.
That's what you are looking at. The statement was that .28>.09 and .28>.21. Both of which are true.
It is not true (and not stated) that the iPhone marketshare is bigger than the combined marketshare of Palm and Windows Mobile device vendors.
The statement does not include the word combined.
That's what you are looking at. The statement was that .28>.09 and .28>.21. Both of which are true.
It is not true (and not stated) that the iPhone marketshare is bigger than the combined marketshare of Palm and Windows Mobile device vendors.
Exactly. If the iPhone were free, or $50, then they would 'outsell' Motorolla pretty quick.
Did not want to change researcher´s take on the statistics
The "researcher" either loves nokia, or has nokia stock... Reporting like that makes me mad
Are we talking OSX, meaning all versions? or just 10.5? If it is the whole series compared to vista, it might be actually close...
The "researcher" either loves nokia, or has nokia stock... Reporting like that makes me mad
Well, ABI Research is not much better : "As Motorola continued to suffer from a weak device portfolio, Nokia sold 134 million handsets for a record 40 per cent share. Apple came in slightly below expectations, shipping 2.3 million units for a 0.6 per cent worldwide share."
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They were not saying Palm and Windows Mobile Devices combined. They were talking about all of the devices that use Windows Mobile combined make up 21%. So the comparison was 28% vs. 21%, stating that the iPhone is ahead. I initially thought the same thing.
mohthom said:
They were not saying Palm and Windows Mobile Devices combined. They were talking about all of the devices that use Windows Mobile combined make up 21%. So the comparison was 28% vs. 21%, stating that the iPhone is ahead. I initially thought the same thing.
Not by any stretch am I a fan of Steve Ballmer, but let's be fair. He said that back when the iPhone was more expensive and before a lot of the final details about the phone's quality and features were known. I think if the iPhone were still available for the original price without all the features and quality-enhancements that were made public at the last-minute, Ballmer's prediction would have pretty much been dead-on accurate.
Their goal was 1% of all sales during calendar year 2008.
They estimated 1 billion total market, meaning 1% would require selling 10 million during the year 2008. So far they seem on track to do that easily, they should make the 1% unless the total market is considerably higher than the billion estimated.
This is simply a different comparison, it doesn't mean they're shying away from the other one.
Never say never. Especially when the flavors of windows seem to be flopping on anything but regular old PCs while handheld devices with OSX are taking off. I suspect before long all iPods will run OSX in addition to the aTV and additional devices down the road. It's a long shot, but I wouldn't completely rule it out. Of course, it's an odd comparison since you're comparing one generation of windows against all generations of OSX - vista will only be selling for a few years anyway. Looks like you're just looking at computers and ignoring phones and iPods running OSX?
What's not fair? He knew that prices would probably drop, and features added. He made a "never" prediction - knowing all the facts or not, that's pretty boneheaded.
but wait
And then all of the complaints about no WiMax will start pouring in!
If they added 3G to it - they could add another sale
And then all of the complaints about no WiMax will start pouring in!
Comparing Apple's market share to Nokia's is a joke. Apple doesn't even try to compete in the same space that Nokia does. Compare Apple to Nokia in the smartphone market and thats a better comparison.
Last I head Apple wanted to sell 10 million phones by the end of 2008 representing (at the time) 1% of the cell phone market. They were at 4 million last I heard.
Last I head Apple wanted to sell 10 million phones by the end of 2008 representing (at the time) 1% of the cell phone market. They were at 4 million last I heard.
Actually that's 10 million DURING 2008. They'll hit 10 million total way sooner than the end of the year.
