Please feel free to send Apple an extra $200 as a TIP after you purchase your iPhone X for a job well done since you're feeling so generous.
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What's Tim supposed to say with regards to high profits? Admit to screwing over their customers?
Please feel free to send Apple an extra $200 as a TIP after you purchase your iPhone X for a job well done since you're feeling so generous.
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What's Tim supposed to say with regards to high profits? Admit to screwing over their customers?
How do you think they have that much taxes to evade, if not from these handsome profits.
I don't understand why they couldn't sell it for $359
It’s like breaking down the price of a house into components.
No surprise I guess. $60 more to make, but costs $200 more than the iPhone 8 plus.
Keep in mind there's costs to R&D too.
Don’t forget about labour, delivery, shipping, advertising, payroll (Apple Inc.), travel, royalties, store promotion and training, warranty, telephone support, recycling, etc. All these conveniences cost money, I suspect once factored, Apple is taking away an approximate 30-45% profit per device.
Remember that Apple provides many demo/test devices to reviewers, Apple Stores, these cannot be sold as new, it may get recycled for parts and this all adds to the cost of the device.
Raw material cost is only 1/3 the picture and its an estimate as Apple may get it for less if not slightly more depending on contractual agreements and conditions. That being said, this is approximately 1/3 the price of the base iPhone X.
If you are not willing to work for cheap or free, don’t expect Apple engineers, developers, factor engineers, developers, etc to work for cheap or free. This is how companies promote and contribute to the local communities, even if Corps hide most in tax haven nations, the employees still expend some of they income in the communities. Tax haven loopholes is a governmental tax related issue, if you don’t like it complain to your government representatives.
Ya, why don't they do that haha
That would all be included under the umbrella of R&D.
I don't understand why they couldn't sell it for $359
Possibly, some companies are structured or operate differently. I prefer not to assume.![]()
What does this have to do with my reply IN THE CONTEXT of the post to which I replied to?If you have proof that Apple actually has a margin on a phone over 100%? Let the FTC know, they’ve been lying to shareholders.
This just really pisses me off endlessly. You state in your title that the PARTS cost X, then you state in the next sentence that it costs X to make the new iPhone. So according to this logic it costs you a few pence in electricity to create your articles, right? Why should you be paid a salary! Ripp-off!!!
So, e.g. a Lacoste polo-shirt only costs the amount of a few hundred grams of cotton to produce right?
This is beyond retarded. Here is from the top of my hat what it take to make an iPhone:
- R&D (tons of cost here)
- Development of special tools to make the phone and some specially developed parts that you can't buy anywhere else
- Sourcing the parts (you don't just get them a fixed cost everywhere in the world you need to make deals with vendors around the globe to make sure you have sufficient quantity of the materials and parts in time for the launch in the proper quality)
- Training of the assembly personnel
- Assembly of the phone
- Quality assurance testing
- Shipping costs from the factories
- Marketing & PR costs
- Packaging
- Store staff & genius bar staff training for the phone (how to fix it, how to sell it)
Some of this seems trivial but don't forget we're talking a global enterprise everywhere in the world launching it more or less at the same time. Millions of packages thousands of people to train.
This just really pisses me off endlessly. You state in your title that the PARTS cost X, then you state in the next sentence that it costs X to make the new iPhone. So according to this logic it costs you a few pence in electricity to create your articles, right? Why should you be paid a salary! Ripp-off!!!
So, e.g. a Lacoste polo-shirt only costs the amount of a few hundred grams of cotton to produce right?
This is beyond retarded. Here is from the top of my hat what it take to make an iPhone:
- R&D (tons of cost here)
- Development of special tools to make the phone and some specially developed parts that you can't buy anywhere else
- Sourcing the parts (you don't just get them a fixed cost everywhere in the world you need to make deals with vendors around the globe to make sure you have sufficient quantity of the materials and parts in time for the launch in the proper quality)
- Training of the assembly personnel
- Assembly of the phone
- Quality assurance testing
- Shipping costs from the factories
- Marketing & PR costs
- Packaging
- Store staff & genius bar staff training for the phone (how to fix it, how to sell it)
Some of this seems trivial but don't forget we're talking a global enterprise everywhere in the world launching it more or less at the same time. Millions of packages thousands of people to train.
It’s really simple. Economics 101 folks: Ultimately. A product is worth what people are willing to pay for it. If that amount is less than what it costs to produce, it fails. If it sells out for for any more than that total value, or even twice its total production value, then that is capitalism (and the business goal). It would be a foolish business that decides to sell it for less than the market will bare because they don’t want to offend a bunch of forum members. And anyone of us on here, if we could not produce enough of anything we chose to sell, to meet overwhelming demand, we would (likely) increase the price point as well. I hope you wouldn’t teach a 7 year-old to sell a glass of lemonade on the street corner at cost of production either. Apple, like every other successful business, is trying to maximize profit margin. And they have a fiduciary obligation to to that. Get over it.
It makes sense that he would post something ignorant like that without any RESEARCH on what makes up the R&D process.
Cry to your mom...this is the reality of business. Apple makes great margins, but so do a lot of companies...who sell, well nothing. At least nothing tangible.They’re a good business so no knocking that, but damn do they make a ton of money per unit. The markup is insane.
Great analysis. The other factors like R&D are exactly the same. Did you go to an Ivy League?So, a $70 difference in cost leads to a $200 difference in MSRP between the 8+ and the X.
Seems legit.
It's basically a Microsoft Kinect miniaturised, so not much research needed.
wonder how much the R&D was for the FaceID