iPhone X easy to scratched

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I find it disappointing when people accept this as normal on a supposedly premium device.

Apple should use more durable materials

This is a poor assertion on your behalf. iPhones are some of the most premium and well made phones on the market, which is not surprising to many. It comes down to the fact on how one takes care of their phone. As an iPhone owner who has plenty of experience with many models, their displays, casings and overall construction are excellent.

Furthermore, surgical stainless steel/316 L stainless steel naturally will scratch easily, because it's a very dense metal. It's not just about the iPhone, it's about the metal properties in general that are susceptible to scratching.

My Apple Watch users 316 L stainless steel, but it's by far from being not durable because it scratches. It's the nature of the metal.

 

[vddobrev]

Enough of these "easily scratches" threads. Anything that you use so often, i.e. you touch, pull out and put in (of pocket, purse, etc.) multiple times every day will get normal use wear and tear. If people don't want scratches, put it in an water proof Otter case, or just look at it and don't use it. My car was brand new six months ago, now it already has normal wear from dust and debris. It is absolutely normal to expect wear signs on anything that you use on a daily basis.

 

[TorontoSS]

I find it disappointing when people accept this as normal on a supposedly premium device.

Apple should use more durable materials.

I think you have to realise that stainless steel is durable. It's used on watches which are far more expensive than iphones. In fact, even more expensive watches are used with even softer materials, like gold. It's a premium product which you use everyday, just like a watch. it will scratch. Yeah, you kind of do have to accept it.

 

[KeanosMagicHat]

This is a poor assertion on your behalf. iPhones are some of the most premium and well made phones on the market, which is not surprising to many. It comes down to the fact on how one takes care of their phone. As an iPhone owner who has plenty of experience with many models, their displays, casings and overall construction are excellent.

Furthermore, surgical stainless steel/316 L stainless steel naturally will scratch easily, because it's a very dense metal. It's not just about the iPhone, it's about the metal properties in general that are susceptible to scratching.

My Apple Watch users 316 L stainless steel, but it's by far from being not durable because it scratches. It's the nature of the metal.

I’ve owned many models of iPhone since the 3G (no doubt like yourself).

Apple are far more concerned about the aesthetics of the phone - and even then only at point of sale - than they are about durability.

Since the 3GS, iPhones have lacked durability.

Apple are not alone in this regard, however.

On the other point, I take pride in looking after things but there’s a difference between being careful in everyday use and having to use “kid gloves” to avoid damage.

If you have to be overly gentle, it’s not a premium device IMO.

 

[UnifiedMelody]

I have a case on mine the whole time, so hardly notice it. I'll only admire it naked when i'm in my bed with 100% carpeted floor and fuzzy carpeted wall in case i drop my phone to the wall side of my bed [no sexual pun intended]

 

[iJustiney]

How can i polish? Polish like jewelry?

I would never polish my iphone

 

[lmcrael]

I find it disappointing when people accept this as normal on a supposedly premium device.

Apple should use more durable materials.
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That’s interesting - earlier reports had suggested the Space Gray was less durable.

I'm still case less and have 0 scratches on my device. My only protection is a screen protector.

 

[mavis]

My iPhone X got two hairline scratches on the screen within hours of me bringing it home; my wife and I were having a bit of… fun… and afterwords, it turns out the phone had been knocked on the floor. She saw the cord (it's a long one - 10ft) and didn't realize the phone was still plugged in. She grabbed the cord and I watched as the phone was pulled across our floor, face down.

Whatever. It's a nice 'souvenir.' Haha

 

[Pseudo-Fed]

My iPhone X got two hairline scratches on the screen within hours of me bringing it home; my wife and I were having a bit of… fun… and afterwords, it turns out the phone had been knocked on the floor. She saw the cord (it's a long one - 10ft) and didn't realize the phone was still plugged in. She grabbed the cord and I watched as the phone was pulled across our floor, face down.

Whatever. It's a nice 'souvenir.' Haha

Pics or it didn't happen...... ;-)

 

[Hooterville]

Space gray does not scratch like the silver.

 

[mavis]

Space gray does not scratch like the silver.

It also can't be polished when it does scratch, like regular stainless steel can. Which is why I went with the white version (even though I wanted the black one)

 

[newellj]

does the space black have the same coating as the space black apple watch? Which in turn help with scratches, no?

I believe the watch is DLC, which is much tougher than PVD.

 

[Ta0jin]

Here’s the long and short of it... The band is stainless steel and no matter the color, space grey or silver it will scratch, period! There is no getting around this. It can get scratches in a case, it can get scratches switching between cases, it may have arrived with tiny micro scratches that weren’t completely polished out when the band was polished at the factory... Scratches bug the **** out of me but I had to realize that scratches are inevitable with this type of material. I’m going to enjoy the phone and not worry about every scratch because at the end of the day even brand new unopened phones have some imperfections.

 

[Pipper99]

Apple had no idea.

Ha! I remember that my iPod Touch looked pretty much like that the first time that I took it out of my pocket.

 

[ivansilvas]

I believe the watch is DLC, which is much tougher than PVD.

Actually, PVD is the process and DLC is the coating bro.
You acquire the DLC coating by the PVD process.

 

[newellj]

Actually, PVD is the process and DLC is the coating bro.
You acquire the DLC coating by the PVD process.

My understanding is that although both deposit material on the base, the PVD process is not actually the same, although they're similar. Either way, though, DLC is much harder and will wear better than almost any PVD coating. In particular, watches coated with PVD usually show a good bit of wear on the high spots and edges, which DLC coated watches do not.

The other side of that may be that Apple doesn't think that the iPhone X needs DLC coating, and for people who use a case that might be right.

 

[ivansilvas]

My understanding is that although both deposit material on the base, the PVD process is not actually the same, although they're similar. Either way, though, DLC is much harder and will wear better than almost any PVD coating. In particular, watches coated with PVD usually show a good bit of wear on the high spots and edges, which DLC coated watches do not.

The other side of that may be that Apple doesn't think that the iPhone X needs DLC coating, and for people who use a case that might be right.

DLC is a form of PVD coating. PVD (Physical Vapor Deposition) is the process in which DLC (Diamond Like Carbon) is applied. Another way to think about it is PVD is the paintbrush and DLC is the paint.

The Space Grey iPhone X have the same coating the SG Stainless Steel Apple Watch wears. You can feel it passing softly your nail in both of these.
The Silver iPhone X it’s very prone to scratches because it sports the SS in its natural state, no coating, and its normal to scratch itself even when you clean it.

The SS Silver iPhone X its prone even to light scratches, and even if you use a case, the dust and debris particles between the case and the iphone will scratch it, but it can be polished with a Cape Cod Cloth if the owner of the iPhone have OCD.

On the other part, the Space Grey SS iPhone X it’s more resistant to scratches because it haves the DLC coating, it can resist light scratches the Silver can’t, but over the time it can lost the coating with the normal wear and tear, or if it scratches, it can’t be polished because the chemicals used with the metal polishing products can tear off the DLC coating.

 

[fischersd]

DLC is a form of PVD coating. PVD (Physical Vapor Deposition) is the process in which DLC (Diamond Like Carbon) is applied. Another way to think about it is PVD is the paintbrush and DLC is the paint.

The Space Grey iPhone X have the same coating the SG Stainless Steel Apple Watch wears. You can feel it passing softly your nail in both of these.
The Silver iPhone X it’s very prone to scratches because it sports the SS in its natural state, no coating, and its normal to scratch itself even when you clean it.

The SS Silver iPhone X its prone even to light scratches, and even if you use a case, the dust and debris particles between the case and the iphone will scratch it, but it can be polished with a Cape Cod Cloth if the owner of the iPhone have OCD.

On the other part, the Space Grey SS iPhone X it’s more resistant to scratches because it haves the DLC coating, it can resist light scratches the Silver can’t, but over the time it can lost the coating with the normal wear and tear, or if it scratches, it can’t be polished because the chemicals used with the metal polishing products can tear off the DLC coating.

Heh. Some of this is right. I think it's safe to say that the coating on the Space Grey iPhone X is different than the DLC coating on the Space Black Apple Watch just due to the colour alone. It's either a different particulate altogether or they've treated it differently.

We won't know for certain until either Apple releases the information or one of their exec's let's it slip during an interview.

 

[newellj]

Heh. Some of this is right. I think it's safe to say that the coating on the Space Grey iPhone X is different than the DLC coating on the Space Black Apple Watch just due to the colour alone. It's either a different particulate altogether or they've treated it differently.

We won't know for certain until either Apple releases the information or one of their exec's let's it slip during an interview.

[edit: no, they don't, I was wrong] Note also that Apple advertises these differently. The Space Black SS Watch is specifically identified as DLC. The Space Gray iPhone X is identified as PVD.

There is literally no chance at all that Apple would advertise the same treatment in two different ways, especially given the wear characteristics of DLC.

I do think it's odd that Apple would choose a less durable coating than DLC for its premium iPhone product, but there is no evidence that they're actually using DLC coating on the iPhone X but selling it as PVD.

 

[fischersd]

Note also that Apple advertises these differently. The Space Black SS Watch is specifically identified as DLC. The Space Gray iPhone X is identified as PVD.

There is literally no chance at all that Apple would advertise the same treatment in two different ways, especially given the wear characteristics of DLC.

I do think it's odd that Apple would choose a less durable coating than DLC for its premium iPhone product, but there is no evidence that they're actually using DLC coating on the iPhone X but selling it as PVD.

Ah, but also keep in mind that Apple dropped DLC from their web pages for the Apple Watch after series 0.

(So we're still left wondering)

 

[newellj]

Ah, but also keep in mind that Apple dropped DLC from their web pages for the Apple Watch after series 0.

(So we're still left wondering)

Are you sure? I thought I saw it within the past week. If you're right, I'll sit down, eat a nice serving of crow and shut up. Off to check...
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DLC is a form of PVD coating. PVD (Physical Vapor Deposition) is the process in which DLC (Diamond Like Carbon) is applied. Another way to think about it is PVD is the paintbrush and DLC is the paint.

The Space Grey iPhone X have the same coating the SG Stainless Steel Apple Watch wears. You can feel it passing softly your nail in both of these.
The Silver iPhone X it’s very prone to scratches because it sports the SS in its natural state, no coating, and its normal to scratch itself even when you clean it.

The SS Silver iPhone X its prone even to light scratches, and even if you use a case, the dust and debris particles between the case and the iphone will scratch it, but it can be polished with a Cape Cod Cloth if the owner of the iPhone have OCD.

On the other part, the Space Grey SS iPhone X it’s more resistant to scratches because it haves the DLC coating, it can resist light scratches the Silver can’t, but over the time it can lost the coating with the normal wear and tear, or if it scratches, it can’t be polished because the chemicals used with the metal polishing products can tear off the DLC coating.

OK, looks like I need to apologize. I have no idea how I stored the DLC idea, but whatever they're doing, it looks like Apple hasn't advertised DLC coating on the SB SS Watch in a couple of years, so the whole premise of my post above is just wrong.

 

[maka344]

Are you sure? I thought I saw it within the past week. If you're right, I'll sit down, eat a nice serving of crow and shut up. Off to check...
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OK, looks like I need to apologize. I have no idea how I stored the DLC idea, but whatever they're doing, it looks like Apple hasn't advertised DLC coating on the SB SS Watch in a couple of years, so the whole premise of my post above is just wrong.

They still use it on the SB watch.

 

[newellj]

They still use it on the SB watch.

Help me out if I'm missing it, but I don't see that on the Apple web site. I *thought* I'd seen it recently, but I just checked and can't find any mention of DLC for the SS SB.
[doublepost=1512589012][/doublepost]So...getting away from the mostly academic question of what's coated how and with what, does anyone have any real field reports on scratching their Space Gray iPhone X?

The OP hasn't been back since s/he posted pics 3 1/2 weeks ago, and those pics look like whatever case they were using was lined with sandpaper.

No scratches on mine, which is in an Apple leather case, which is a very good fit but leaves the bottom band exposed. Then again, I carried my Jet Black iPhone 7 in the same case and it looked virginal after a year so maybe I'm a bad test case for phone scratches.

 

[fischersd]

Help me out if I'm missing it, but I don't see that on the Apple web site. I *thought* I'd seen it recently, but I just checked and can't find any mention of DLC for the SS SB.
[doublepost=1512589012][/doublepost]So...getting away from the mostly academic question of what's coated how and with what, does anyone have any real field reports on scratching their Space Gray iPhone X?

The OP hasn't been back since s/he posted pics 3 1/2 weeks ago, and those pics look like whatever case they were using was lined with sandpaper.

No scratches on mine, which is in an Apple leather case, which is a very good fit but leaves the bottom band exposed. Then again, I carried my Jet Black iPhone 7 in the same case and it looked virginal after a year so maybe I'm a bad test case for phone scratches.

We know it's DLC still on the SBSS Watch, as one of the forum members got Apple to confirm (think that was when S2 came out), but the point being that it's not on the web pages anymore. By Apple not stating what either the Watch or iPhone X is on the web pages leaves it open that the particulates could both be DLC, but just different colours/treatments. We won't know until we actually get something tangible from someone at Apple in a position of authority to say so (ie. one of the exec's or an official statement).

 

[newellj]

We know it's DLC still on the SBSS Watch, as one of the forum members got Apple to confirm (think that was when S2 came out), but the point being that it's not on the web pages anymore. By Apple not stating what either the Watch or iPhone X is on the web pages leaves it open that the particulates could both be DLC, but just different colours/treatments. We won't know until we actually get something tangible from someone at Apple in a position of authority to say so (ie. one of the exec's or an official statement).

Yeah. TL;DR: we don't know. And the pics I've seen don't really persuade me that there's a problem. In particular, another thread had pics that looked like someone had tried to clean up their space gray iPhone X with a belt sander. It's hard to feel much concern about something like that.