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Skinny jeans guys are going to have a boost in confidence once iPhone X is in front pocket ... “half”!

Stainless steel a very odd choice giving how much more recyclable Aluminum is. Was strength needed this much?

Does anyone have faith in the G Glass v5 on the X?
 
Who else keeps checking their order status, but every time they do so is terrified they’ll accidentally tap CANCEL ORDER?
lmfao same thing here... just logging out like a 3 year old - with one finger, so nothing can happen
 
I was well aware when I chose to be an early adopter for the 2012 retina MBP and the iPhone 3G, 4 & 6. At that time, I felt it was worth the tradeoff. This time however, I have serious reservations about compromising my entire usage pattern for a value proposition that's frankly not really there. I'm happy with TouchID, full-screen apps, established touch gestures and so forth.

I've also been craving for and ranting about a redesign on the super tired iPhone 6 form factor. I just don't think this is it. Not yet at least. Liking "most of what they've done" doesn't merit a €1300 investment (sans AppleCare) that's only optimised to create animojis.

For me it’s a bit different though, I’m prepared to accept that out of box, it’s going to need work still to make it the device it’s supposed to be. And that many apps are going to need updating, some may never be updated of course. I still have apps that were never updated for the Plus sized phones, or not updated well (hell one of my own apps that I still use has never been updated for the Plus, it’s been discontinued for years, but stilll, never even updated it for myself :D) So I’ve always had to compromise on apps that aren’t full screen, nothing new to me.

And I know I’ll get shot for this one, but horror of horrors, I actually prefer touch gestures to a button now. I doubt I’d have said that 10 years ago :D but I don’t know, I think I’ve evolved a little with the devices. The touch gestures for navigation just feel natural using these screens, I miss some of them when I switch from my iPad to my iPhone. Still hate touch for anything but basic games though but no phone is likely to ever fix that. Certainly not one with a picture of an apple on the back of it anyway ;)

I am entirely certain though that Apple will in a reasonably short period of time, hold up their end and get the refinements to iOS finalised to better suit the X, they have something to prove (or to some, try and prove) so they won’t rest on their laurels.

I’m prepared to accept the relatively minor shortcomings, because I love the iPhone Plus models far too much to even consider using a regular iPhone 8. Never going to happen. But at the same time, having a screen that’s almost the size of the 8 Plus in the smaller form factor will make things much easier on me.
It’s a situation very specific to me, so I don’t expect my reasons to appeal to anyone else (or at least not many.)

But crucially I do still like the hardware in the X, I wouldn’t get it otherwise, even if it does make life easier. And I know I like iOS 11. So there’s little doubt I’ll like the X.

I love Touch ID but I can see potential for Face ID being more useful in my life. Living in a particularly wet part of Scotland and worse still, enjoying going up into the hills and mountains, believe me I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve cursed Touch ID to hell and back because it’s wet. Or when my hands are grubby as often happens and I’m trying to pay for something in the shop, frantically wiping my hands over whatever clothes I’m wearing, much to the wife’s delight :D

I’m not, contrary to popular belief, a fool though. It’s not going to be perfect, nothing is, so I am prepared for certain limitations to annoy and even frustrate me, for a while at least, until software is updated. But that I can cope with.
 
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Wonder if the guy who did the video (Dan) previously carried a regular or plus sized iPhone? I primarily carried the regular (6), and wonder how noticeable the difference in weight will be.

The iPhone 6 was 4.55 oz. The iPhone X is 6.14 oz. That is a whopping 35% heavier. Guess Apple marketing don't want to mention that.
 
It's a supercool device only at first glance. Then the issues take hold. Face ID will certainly take a learning curve, and it doesn't work all that flawlessly (according to the Verge's early review it's a hit or miss in broad daylight).

The Verge is no longer a reliable source. They’ve embarked in an all-out anti-Apple crusade, while everything Google does is golden.

The final turning point has been the Apple Watch LTE review, completely built on a single connectivity bug. Once the bug got solved, the review remained largely the same, including the 5 score. At this point it’s clear they have an agenda.

As far as the iPhone X is concerned: no other reviewer found problems in full daylight. And someone took the device for a full vacation at Disneyland.
 
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The Verge is no longer a reliable source. They’ve embarked in an all-out anti-Apple crusade, while everything Google does is golden.

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At this point it’s clear they have an agenda, unfortunately.

Ehm, you're not a reliable opinion source either. You're a well known AAPL stock owner who shills at every given chance. Between you and the Verge, I'll take the Verge.

As far as the iPhone X is concerned, they punctuated their review with FUD points, for example nobody else found problems in full daylight. And someone took the device for a full vacation at Disneyland.

I'm prepared to take the FaceID critique with a grain of salt. Some problems though are there and staring you right in the face. E.g having to deal with letterboxes or the notch on every screen is a thing, not a Verge exaggeration.
 
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The iPhone 6 was 4.55 oz. The iPhone X is 6.14 oz. That is a whopping 35% heavier. Guess Apple marketing don't want to mention that.

Why would they need to, the 8 is 5.22 and the 8 Plus is 7.13 putting the X roughly in the middle of the two oddly enough. It’s not exactly hidden, unless you never read the specs. But it stands to reason, pack in more technology and use heavier construction materials, the weight has to go up.

Yes you’d notice it coming from a lighter device, but I’d hope most would be expecting it. Well I’d like to think people do their homework before throwing a grand or more at a shiny toy, these days though, maybe not so much.
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Mine is still preparing for shipping :( and its meant to be delivered in less than 24 hours.
Not found any way to track them here in the UK.

Don’t worry, if you ordered direct from Apple, that’s happened to me before with pre-orders. You’ll probably find later tonight it’ll jump through the last stages in the blink of an eye and you’ll get your tracking email.
 
Ehm, you're not a reliable opinion source either. You're a well known AAPL stock owner who flaunts and venerates the company decisions at every step. Between you and the Verge, I'll take the Verge.
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What a stupid statement.

Of course a forum poster is not a “reliable source”, especially when he does not have the product at hand. But after reading dozens of first impressions anyone can forge an idea about a product.

An outlet like The Verge should at least try to be objective. The AW LTE review was the watershed moment for them, and this is not very much arguable.
 
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And yet several other reviewers didn’t seem to have anywhere near the same trouble with Face ID Nilay did. Tom’s Guide for instance said it got tripped up in an elevator once for some reason but they had no issues with it in bright sunlight/darkness/in a bar/at home.

There’s a lot of mixed opinions, which to be fair is exactly what I expected there to be.
The UI does need some improvement, but that’ll come. Remember how awful apps were when we moved to the 4.7 and 5.5 inch screens. It takes time for everyone, usually including Apple to catch up.

That aside I’m still looking forward to the X, I’ve been one of those waiting on a major redesign for years and I like most of what they’ve done.

Really need to stop watching these previews though, I’m over excited as it is :D One more sleep to go.

Did you watch Nilay use the phone in the supermarket as an instance of it not working? He had the phone held down at his waist/hip line nearly straight down. I literally don’t blame the phone for it not working as I have never witnessed a person using a phone like that before.
 
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My unit ships today! I wish it could arrive on the same day, but its highly doubtful. Tomorrow I'll be like a kid in a candy shop.
 
Did you watch Nilay use the phone in the supermarket as an instance of it not working? He had the phone held down at his waist/hip line nearly straight down. I literally don’t blame the phone for it not working as I have never witnessed a person using a phone like that before.

Yeah, it was the bit just before the supermarket when he started talking about the bright sunlight for me, I damn near spat my coffee out. And I do NOT like to waste coffee, not even the cheap horrible stuff you get at Starbucks.

Now, ok, fair enough I don't know how tall Nilay is. He may be a person of short stature (is that what we call midgets these days? I lose track of all of that PC arse gravy, it's forever changing :p) for all I know. But were talking about a device designed to operate within 10 - 20 inches, so probably 15 being the sweet spot.

I'm 6 foot 3" and on me, where he's holding it is a lot more than 20 inches from my eyes. In direct sunlight, with a quick glance, while strutting down the street.

Really Mr Patel? That's your testing methodology for something? Put it just enough outside of it's defined operational parameters so that it fails but doesn't look too obvious. Yeah, that gives me complete faith in your impartiality, not to mention your usefulness as a product tester and opinion giver.
And before anyone makes a crack and we all know you will, I've been professionally testing pre-release products for over 20 years. It takes a little bit more, let's say for simpleness, actions grounded in reality than that particular "test" to cut it.

I mean for God's sake, I'm not expecting it to be perfect, I'm not even expecting it to be quicker or always as convenient as Touch ID. But give me a break.

**Edit**

I've just realised I've not taken my morphine this morning, oops. That, the fact I’ve not slept for three days and a distinct lack of coffee in this damn house may be making me ever so slightly grumpier than usual. Just a tad, a wee bit, minuscule even :D

Oh, and obviously if Nilay does happen to be 4 foot 2", then I take back everything I just said.


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All these "hands-on" reviews over the last few days and not one comment about call quality; it's a phone after all....


Wow, people still do that with them? Weird :p
 
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Did you watch Nilay use the phone in the supermarket as an instance of it not working? He had the phone held down at his waist/hip line nearly straight down. I literally don’t blame the phone for it not working as I have never witnessed a person using a phone like that before.

That was intentional.
 


Because this is a demo device that's going to be in retail stores for customers to check out before making a purchase, Face ID was disabled

Wait, there isn't some sort of demo mode to try out Face ID in store? This seems like one of the most critical and important things to try on the iPhone X.

I remember being able to try out Touch ID on demo phones when it first came out.
 
The latest and greatest doesn't even apply anymore. As time goes on the differences between releases is becoming increasingly marginal. Really, what can the X do that the 6s or 7 can't? True the screen is better and you can unlock it with your face, but is that it? The camera is already good and the processor is overpowered for this type of device. It's a phone for petes sake! Many will disagree, but I'm just trying to be objective here. I do want one, but I can't justify that price for what I'm getting. I just can't. It's not worth it.
 
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I will wait and see what FaceID will be in a year's time, because last year Apple wanted us to believe that their new taptic engine without a physical button is the coolest thing to have, just to tell us this year that it's old tech. So they created a hype around something that was obsolete within a year. I must say, i don't trust Apple anymore with this kind of "inventions".
 
The latest and greatest doesn't even apply anymore. As time goes on the differences between releases is becoming increasingly marginal. Really, what can the X do that the 6s or 7 can't? True the screen is better and you can unlock it with your face, but is that it? The camera is already good and the processor is overpowered for this type of device. It's a phone for petes sake! Many will disagree, but I'm just trying to be objective here. I do want one, but I can't justify that price for what I'm getting. I just can't. It's not worth it.


It’s true, well I disagree a little on the phone part, it’s more of a computer that can make phone calls these days as far as I’m concerned.

Can’t argue with the last bit, only a person can decide for themselves what they do and do not consider to be worth the asking price. So fair enough there.

But the rest I agree with and it’s going to stay the same for a long time. Until there’s the availability of technology to once again revolutionise what we consider a “phone” to be. Or indeed to replace it altogether. All we are going to get are incremental improvements in bits of it, other forms of tech replacing other bits of it.

It’s the nature of the beast. All we can do, all any of us can do realistically, is decide on the right one of the many available options for ourselves and enjoy it.


And maybe occasionally come on a public forum to bitch and moan :D
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I will wait and see what FaceID will be in a year's time, because last year Apple wanted us to believe that their new taptic engine without a physical button is the coolest thing to have, just to tell us this year that it's old tech. So they created a hype around something that was obsolete within a year. I must say, i don't trust Apple anymore with this kind of "inventions".


The Taptic Engine is staying around, it’s in all of the phones, even the X. I think replacing the physical home button with a solid state alternative was a lot more to do with removing one of the most used moving parts in the device that could break, with something far less likely to do so than it was to offer any kind of user experience improvement.
 
I'm excited for all the gestures because it makes navigating quicker (takes me back to the Nexus 6 days), all the pure Apple users may have a learning curve but once you get the hang of it it will become second nature.
 
I think I'm going to love this phone, pretty much every review says FaceID works really well (and I'm sure with some software tweaks it will get even better in the future), the screen seems to have minimal OLED-related issues, and it's plenty fast for future-proofing. Physical size should be more comfortable than a Plus, which even for not-small hands can be unwieldy. I hope I can feel comfortable using it without a case, as I did with my 4S, but that's probably wishful thinking.

The only thing that irks me is the notch in landscape mode, particularly for movies. It's too bad Apple doesn't have an option to zoom the video only enough to avoid the notch, but keep it stuck to the other side of the screen. The way they do it now is to shrink the video on both sides so it's symmetrical, but IMO it's too small and looks weird totally boxed off on all sides. 16x9 content would probably fit almost perfectly without boxing off the opposite side.

16:9 video on a X will still have less real estate than the iPhone 8 Plus.
 
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