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The latest and greatest doesn't even apply anymore. As time goes on the differences between releases is becoming increasingly marginal. Really, what can the X do that the 6s or 7 can't? True the screen is better and you can unlock it with your face, but is that it? The camera is already good and the processor is overpowered for this type of device. It's a phone for petes sake! Many will disagree, but I'm just trying to be objective here. I do want one, but I can't justify that price for what I'm getting. I just can't. It's not worth it.

It's fully worth it, if only for the big screen in small body, and it will have an huge residual value when you will sell it two years from now.
 
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Had a notification that mine is currently in the local carrier shop and will be ready for collection when doors open tomorrow. Excited to get my hands on it.


You're lucky, all I’ve had so far is an email reminding me to go. Like I’m going to forget that :D
 
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Apple should give a 10% discount for the missing chunk of screen. And, the only semi-interesting feature is Animoji unless you've owned a Xbox with Kinect then it's just leftover PrimeSense 2010 technology that's been retired by Microsoft.
 
YOOOO!! Did anyone else see at 2:37 swipe DOWN on the horizontal bar = reachability!? That's HUGE. The whole time I was thinking how ****** it will be NOT to have reachability, especially with needing to swipe down for control center. My worries are now at ease!
 
YOOOO!! Did anyone else see at 2:37 swipe DOWN on the horizontal bar = reachability!? That's HUGE. The whole time I was thinking how ****** it will be NOT to have reachability, especially with needing to swipe down for control center. My worries are now at ease!

Yeah I was relieved once I knew about that. With the slightly taller screen I had initially wondered how they were going to do it. Hadn’t even thought it would be as simple, easy to access and obvious as it turned out to be.
 
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It's fully worth it, if only for the big screen in small body, and it will have an huge residual value when you will sell it two years from now.

I'm sure people will be itching for the lag and stutters iOS 13 will bring. Maybe the first year will yield a decent loss, forget about the second.
 
Thank you so much for that, I didn’t realise I owed that piece of crucial information to Mr Patel from the Verge. Clearly he’s far more on the ball than I gave him credit for.

I had foolishly thought I gained the information from reading this Apple support document weeks ago, which was published on the 27th of September.

Perhaps if Mr Patel was as thorough in his research on a subject he’s going to publish an opinion on, he’d have known the limitations of the device without having to trouble Apple for the information and could have used it appropriately.


I was not aware of that document so I appologize. I will say that I’ve kept up with the majority of rumors for the device so I’d venture to guess many in the public didn’t see it either. Up till the reviews hit I saw people referencing the promotional video showed which had it working at what appears to be a greater distance then 20 inches.

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Bottom line is for a new feature that the success of the product resides on, Apple didn’t do a good job of communicating its limitations to the very people who the public looks to for initial reviews.
 
Weird letterboxing? We’ve been having it for years on all iPhones. There has always been black bars
 
All these "hands-on" reviews over the last few days and not one comment about call quality; it's a phone after all....
Terrific point! I ordered 2 - just because we upgrade every 2 years. Call clarity is high on my list (not so much my wife). I'm old and I still do a lot of business on the phone. I was given an IBM Simon (most consider the first smart phone) back in 1994. I was given the phone for free by IBM. I had to do surveys on how the phone worked in my day to day activities. I actually liked a lot of the features, but I just could not hear well on it, so for me the phone was a bad phone. Others must have agreed as IBM ditched the Simon...though I still have mine - pristine and sitting in my attic.
 
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The Verge is no longer a reliable source. They’ve embarked in an all-out anti-Apple crusade, while everything Google does is golden.

The final turning point has been the Apple Watch LTE review, completely built on a single connectivity bug. Once the bug got solved, the review remained largely the same, including the 5 score. At this point it’s clear they have an agenda.

As far as the iPhone X is concerned: no other reviewer found problems in full daylight. And someone took the device for a full vacation at Disneyland.

That's nonsense, they are super creditable.. Fanboy talk..
 
If you're struggling with the new swipe features just find a BlackBerry BB10 user for some assistance.
 
I was not aware of that document so I appologize. I will say that I’ve kept up with the majority of rumors for the device so I’d venture to guess many in the public didn’t see it either. Up till the reviews hit I saw people referencing the promotional video showed which had it working at what appears to be a greater distance then 20 inches.

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Bottom line is for a new feature that the success of the product resides on, Apple didn’t do a good job of communicating its limitations to the very people who the public looks to for initial reviews.


It's ok I was just yanking your chain a bit :p

I'm probably one of the exceptions to the rule to be fair, partly because I'm a developer and thinking of possible practical applications for the sensing capabilities of the X. Partly too because even as a consumer, when I'm thinking of buying something I really do my homework on it to make sure I know everything I possibly can to make an informed decision.

But I do completely agree that so far there have been aspects of Apple's marketing that are a bit light on some of the information on the device. Particularly it's real-world use scenarios and limitations.

As we've seen this has already caught out at least one professional journalist, Mr Patel, who clearly had no idea of the limitations of the device before he started using it. If he did then he wouldn't have tried to use the device in the way he did in the video review.
After all, if he did actually know of the devices limitations prior to obtaining the phone for review purposes then that would put him in a very bad light. it would essentially mean he was deliberately trying to show issues that don't exist within it's proper use cases. Therefore calling into question his professional integrity and impartial standpoint.

Which, regardless of a persons own preferences, impartiality must always be the case when testing/reviewing devices. One should never let one's own predilections result in bias for the device in question, you must force yourself to look at the device objectively from the viewpoint of the customer who has purchased the device for their own personal use. I know, I've had to do it so many times I couldn't possibly count them.

Had he done thorough background research he would have known that information, so I'm certainly not piling all of the blame onto Apple. Mr Patel's limitations in the research department cannot be blamed on anyone but himself, sadly it's becoming a bit of a trait with a lot of "journalists" these days and yes, there are some good ones still so no, I don't mean all of them.
They'll happily play with a toy, but they don't all seem much bothered about things like research and actual facts but hey ho. I won't deny it's a two way street though when it comes to that kind of thing, the information is there, it's just not exactly being thrust upon you.


Damn im in pointless rambling lecture mode today. Ok, time to put the energy drinks down and go back to coffee :D
 
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According to Craig Federighi, Face ID uses the same API as Touch ID, so therefore app developers will not need to do anything because the apps will auto convert to the Face ID feature.

I did get a Chase banking app update that stated "Users with eligible devices can now use Face ID to log on". So there must have been some change somewhere it wasn't seamless. Or they had to change some wording in the settings. Who knows.
 
It's ok I was just yanking your chain a bit :p

I'm probably one of the exceptions to the rule to be fair, partly because I'm a developer and thinking of possible practical applications for the sensing capabilities of the X. Partly too because even as a consumer, when I'm thinking of buying something I really do my homework on it to make sure I know everything I possibly can to make an informed decision.

But I do completely agree that so far there have been aspects of Apple's marketing that are a bit light on some of the information on the device. Particularly it's real-world use scenarios and limitations.

As we've seen this has already caught out at least one professional journalist, Mr Patel, who clearly had no idea of the limitations of the device before he started using it. If he did then he wouldn't have tried to use the device in the way he did in the video review.
After all, if he did actually know of the devices limitations prior to obtaining the phone for review purposes then that would put him in a very bad light. it would essentially mean he was deliberately trying to show issues that don't exist within it's proper use cases. Therefore calling into question his professional integrity and impartial standpoint.

Which, regardless of a persons own preferences, impartiality must always be the case when testing/reviewing devices. One should never let one's own predilections result in bias for the device in question, you must force yourself to look at the device objectively from the viewpoint of the customer who has purchased the device for their own personal use. I know, I've had to do it so many times I couldn't possibly count them.

Had he done thorough background research he would have known that information, so I'm certainly not piling all of the blame onto Apple. Mr Patel's limitations in the research department cannot be blamed on anyone but himself, sadly it's becoming a bit of a trait with a lot of "journalists" these days and yes, there are some good ones still so no, I don't mean all of them.
They'll happily play with a toy, but they don't all seem much bothered about things like research and actual facts but hey ho. I won't deny it's a two way street though when it comes to that kind of thing, the information is there, it's just not exactly being thrust upon you.


Damn im in pointless rambling lecture mode today. Ok, time to put the energy drinks down and go back to coffee :D

Good reply. :D

What I find interesting is based on what Gruber said in his latest podcast Apple doesn’t just hand you the product and let you walk away. They sit you down and give you a presentation. Tell the story of the device. It sounds like great PR, but makes it surprising they didn’t cover a simple detail like the range limitations of Face ID.
 
Good reply. :D

What I find interesting is based on what Gruber said in his latest podcast Apple doesn’t just hand you the product and let you walk away. They sit you down and give you a presentation. Tell the story of the device. It sounds like great PR, but makes it surprising they didn’t cover a simple detail like the range of Face ID.

That's just its though, do we know that they didn't. Or if they didn't specifically mention it, is it just bad reporting, not doing their research. I mean, even the Apple Must Blog reported on the distance Face ID needed back in September and no offence to anyone from Apple Must but I don't think they have the budget or resources that somewhere like The Verge has.

It's an odd situation, Apple has certainly put the information out there. That exact support document has been mentioned on websites, blogs, facebook, twitter and even Apple's own customer support forums. So while it's not widely known right now, the question is why not? Why haven't these big websites such as The Verge or most of the rest of them bothered to mention it at all. At least, not that I've noticed anyway, other than people discussing it in comments. Yet they will point it out as a fault or failure of the device when what they are doing often isn't within it's defined parameters of effectiveness. I just find it odd.


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I’m sure yours will be with you soon


Not soon enough :D But I'm a patient man, honest I am. Well, that's what I'm trying to tell myself :p
 
I’m not, contrary to popular belief, a fool though. It’s not going to be perfect, nothing is, so I am prepared for certain limitations to annoy and even frustrate me, for a while at least, until software is updated. But that I can cope with.

I don't think a lengthy disclaimer refutes popular belief.
 
I don't think a lengthy disclaimer refutes popular belief.

Id hardly count five words as lengthy but fair enough, I don’t think anything refutes popular belief. People will believe whatever people choose to believe, regardless of how ludicrous a notion it may be.
 



The iPhone X will be in the hands of customers in less than 48 hours, but ahead of the device's launch, our new videographer, Dan Barbera, was able to spend some time with an iPhone X demo device to get a look at the new smartphone before its public release.

Because this is a demo device that's going to be in retail stores for customers to check out before making a purchase, Face ID was disabled, but Dan was able to check out the design of the iPhone X and give us a good look at the new gestures needed to operate the device.


We just wanted to give MacRumors readers a quick close-up of the iPhone X ahead of its launch with this first video, but starting this Friday, we'll be doing a much deeper dive into the iPhone X in a series of videos. We have a lot of content planned, so make sure to stay tuned to MacRumors.com and subscribe to our YouTube channel if you haven't done so already.

Article Link: iPhone X: Hands-On With Apple's New Flagship Device
$2000 in Canada just a new design, still does the same thing. I will pass on this
 
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