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Who wants to bet that Apple planned on a later release to screw up everyone's 12 or 24 month cycle and you end up paying two more payments this year then two more payments next year when they get back to mid September launch? $$$

Could this be a consideration? No doubt, though Apple's biggest customers, the phone companies, are probably more interested in this than Apple is.

The thing is, not everyone buys the new model on Day 1. Those who wait for Day 1 in this case are delaying their purchase by a month-and-a-half, which is not a good thing. Will they buy their next iPhone in 10.5 or 22.5 months, instead of 12 or 24? It's not a sure bet - if they're on a payment plan, they have a financial incentive to wait.

In my case... I buy in the early part of the year, not Day 1, so I'm not delaying or accelerating my purchases. By February or March, when I replace my iPhone 6, I'm fairly certain I'll have no problem getting an X without a wait (I'd be more certain if it wasn't for the AirPods precedent).
 
Could this be a consideration? No doubt, though Apple's biggest customers, the phone companies, are probably more interested in this than Apple is.

The thing is, not everyone buys the new model on Day 1. Those who wait for Day 1 in this case are delaying their purchase by a month-and-a-half, which is not a good thing. Will they buy their next iPhone in 10.5 or 22.5 months, instead of 12 or 24? It's not a sure bet - if they're on a payment plan, they have a financial incentive to wait.

In my case... I buy in the early part of the year, not Day 1, so I'm not delaying or accelerating my purchases. By February or March, when I replace my iPhone 6, I'm fairly certain I'll have no problem getting an X without a wait (I'd be more certain if it wasn't for the AirPods precedent).
Day 1 buyers is HUGEEE. the biggest sales for technology is within the first few months of it and before the holiday. I wouldn't put it past apple in planning this with phone companies for more profit.
 
Basic math tells you iPhone X will be very supply constrained at launch.

Even the journalists who went to Steve Jobs Theater mentioned there were far too few demo units on hand.

At 10k/day, even if Foxconn increased production by 25% every 7 days, Apple only ends up with 1 million units on October 31. If we pretend Foxconn were assembling 10k/day since August 2017, that only adds 300k units to the pool.

During previous launches like iPhone 6S, Apple sold 13 million over the launch weekend. Traditionally, 40% of those sales are the expensive Plus models, which translates to 5 million units.

Apple will have at best 1.5 million units of iPhone X at launch for worldwide consumption.
10k units a day sounds very very low. It should be at the very least 100k provided component supply is there which is probably the issue here
 
It is going to be an absolute disaster on October 27. 15-30 million people vying for, at best, 5 million phones.
 
definitely a mellow 8 and 8+ launch compared to numerous years with 40+ carrier order pages going crazy.
 
It is going to be an absolute disaster on October 27. 15-30 million people vying for, at best, 5 million phones.

Where are you getting 5 million phones?

If production is anywhere near 10,000 units per day... Apple would have had to start producing iPhone X last year!
 
Where are you getting 5 million phones?

If production is anywhere near 10,000 units per day... Apple would have had to start producing iPhone X last year!

We can safely assume that production rates will increase over time. It was 10,000 units/day a week or so ago. Yield will be increasing, but no where near enough to get more than 5 million units by launch time.
 
Why are they doing a WW release when it's a challenge to make already? Seems shortsighted but Tim is the supply chain guy /s. People all over the globe won't be happy the X is pushed back weeks or even months.

The 27th is going to be a bloodbath

i don't think it would be better if they didn't do it WW. if i was in a country that gets to order it later than other countries, i would be even more pissed. at least this way everyone has the same chance.
 
This 8launch seemed way to easy. I just tried to buy it and says ships on time, not 2 months later.

Everyone is waiting for the X. I would get the 8, but I really am drawn to the X.
 
We can safely assume that production rates will increase over time. It was 10,000 units/day a week or so ago. Yield will be increasing, but no where near enough to get more than 5 million units by launch time.

Yep... the bolded part was what I was talking about.

Even if production increased 5x to 50,000 units a day... that'll still take over 3 months to produce 5 million.

Which is why I was wondering where you got that number. :)
 
Today the iPhone8 and iPhone8 Plus got sold out within 10mins. After 10mins the wait times became 3 to 4 weeks which makes it close to the iPhoneX pre-order date.
 
i don't think it would be better if they didn't do it WW. if i was in a country that gets to order it later than other countries, i would be even more pissed. at least this way everyone has the same chance.

Yes also this way they will know how much stock is there and also the demand. What happened before all the orders were given priority to the US and then the other countries. Now every country gets equal chance meaning better chance for people outside the US.
 
Today the iPhone8 and iPhone8 Plus got sold out within 10mins. After 10mins the wait times became 3 to 4 weeks which makes it close to the iPhoneX pre-order date.
LOLWUT? I can order any model of my choice, right now, and have it release day if I want to.
 
We can safely assume that production rates will increase over time. It was 10,000 units/day a week or so ago. Yield will be increasing, but no where near enough to get more than 5 million units by launch time.
Where do you get 10k units a day. That is terribly low. The difference is maybe suppliers hold it up which could be the case. But 10k units with all materials and supply would be super low. I know there is still a ton of Labor involved but they literally have a city just there for iphone production.
 
Today the iPhone8 and iPhone8 Plus got sold out within 10mins. After 10mins the wait times became 3 to 4 weeks which makes it close to the iPhoneX pre-order date.
says who? you can get them now with no slipping of times. The demand isn't as high as you think
 
I can have it on time. The X will cause the craziness.
 

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man, around 450k, that doesn't sound good at all

:-o
:-o

i hope, for everyone who is pre-ordering, that it is more :-O
:/ :/

Don't worry. There's only 7 billion people on planet earth :p
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says who? you can get them now with no slipping of times. The demand isn't as high as you think


I ordered mine about an hour after it went on sale and it says it is arriving on launch day(ill see if that sticks)
 
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No matter how many phones Apple can produce until it launches on the 03/11 it's going to be as someone else said a bloodbath and scalpers are going to try to make a massive profit on ebay.

One thing I keep seeing people mention is that they only have 10 months to use the phone on IUP however what is stopping apple from releasing the next set of phones all in November 18 so you still get that yearly upgrade?
 
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