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One big question for me is... with current 3rd-party apps that use TouchID for authentication, will FaceID simply replace it without needing an update? Or are we going to have to wait months to years for everyone to release FaceID capable apps that previously had TouchID ability? That's going to be annoying, if so. I got so used to logging into so many of my regular apps using TouchID. Does anyone know??
I've read that they should continue to work seamlessly; such apps make a call to a generic authentication process that, in the case of the X, is FaceID and on earlier phones is TouchID. Let's hope that's the case.
 
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Can bloggers please stop shooting outdoor photos and boasting about the quality. Outdoor photos with lots of sunlight has been good on every phone since 2007 and point and shoots long before that and is no longer representational of the quality of a camera today. If you can shoot in low light without focus issues or noise, then you have a good quality phone camera.

Hey look, I shot a photo outdoors on my phone that looks like every other photo shot on any phone in the last 10 years, but this one is somehow better because I paid $1000 for it!

Absolutely agree.
 
Lol inventing issues that don't exist + plus mentioning you're not buying one.

Look, its OK that there is a great new iPhone that you're not buying. You don't have to invent issues with it to make yourself feel bettter.

He didn't. Those were legitimate gripes--brought up in some of the reviews.

It's OK that there is a (potentially not great) new iPhone that you ARE buying. You don't have to insist everyone else is making up problems to make yourself feel better.
 
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The Verge's Nilay Patel said Face ID "mostly works great," but he noted authentication was inconsistent in certain lighting conditions.

Other than that, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?
You are exaggerating. Overall he thought FaceID worked well. It isn’t perfect, but neither was TouchID.
 
Sounds like FaceID is exactly as a lot of us predicted. Hit or miss. I honestly doubt it's functionality is better than TouchID. I'll leave my two in box this Friday until some real world reviews come out before I open it and get buyers remorse.
I’m not seeing that. Most of the reviews I’ve seen say it’s close to flawless and doesn’t make them miss Touch ID. When Touch ID first came out it wasn’t flawless either. One thing I am optimistic about is every review I’ve seen so far suggests unlock and swipe up to home screen happen simultaneously so there isn’t an extra step from Touch ID.
 
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well I love Touch ID, I was concerned about FaceID not being as good and now I am even more concerned. Luckily I just bought a 6S because the X was too expensive anyway and I still wanted a headphone jack
 
The Verge's experience with FaceID is very concerning. If it's fickle in different lighting conditions--and with no option to get into the phone other than using a passcode that will get annoying real quick.
 
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The Verge's experience with FaceID is very concerning. If it's fickle in different lighting conditions--and with no option to get into the phone other than using a passcode that will get annoying real quick.
he's the only who saying this and is getting called out on twitter by those who have no issue

bare that in mind
 
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Not one reviewer had taken an iPhone Plus and an X and put them side by side, and loaded a safari page with just text on it, enabled with the same text size, and compared how much more or less readable text you have.
I don't take a lot of pictures of people jumping around, but I do read a lot on my iPhone. Guess I'll have to wait until Friday.
 
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The Verge's Nilay Patel said Face ID "mostly works great," but he noted authentication was inconsistent in certain lighting conditions.

Other than that, how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?
And how well does Touch ID work with wet or very dry/cracked fingers? I’m not expecting Face ID to work under every conceivable situation. I don’t think Apple has promised that either.
 
He didn't. Those were legitimate gripes--brought up in some of the reviews.

It's OK that there is a (potentially not great) new iPhone that you ARE buying. You don't have to insist everyone else is making up problems to make yourself feel better.
No.
 
Removing the home button seems to remove a lot of "it just works" of Apple, it would have been better if they implemented S8's home button style.

They overloaded the power button + volume up buttons, wonder how long the buttons will last.

So.. swipe up and click, is better than just swipe up?
 
Now that you mention it, I wonder if that's how they managed to get the false positive rate so low... instead of setting it up with 5 fingers, you're only setting it up with 1 face.

That's going down as a massive con for me... my wife and I regularly use each other's devices. Having to always use the passcode when we're not on our own device would suck.


Very true if this is the case then only one person can unlock the phone! I do this all the time with my wife's iPhone using one of my fingers in the touch of. Looks like Face ID going to eliminate this option
 
Sounds like FaceID is exactly as a lot of us predicted. Hit or miss. I honestly doubt it's functionality is better than TouchID. I'll leave my two in box this Friday until some real world reviews come out before I open it and get buyers remorse.

or use them and see whether your own use cases work with FaceID, safe in the knowledge you have 14 days to return it?
 
The Verge's experience with FaceID is very concerning. If it's fickle in different lighting conditions--and with no option to get into the phone other than using a passcode that will get annoying real quick.
One It’s The Verge. Two, I’m seeing lots of other reviews on Twitter that haven’t experienced what he did. I’d say his is more of an outlier. I don’t trust The Verge much anymore. Nilay has turned it into a clickbait site and a lot of their pieces read like company PR fluff pieces. Recently they wrote this long story about how Google is a serious hardware player now and then we get the reports of all the issues with the Pixel 2 XL.
 
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Not one reviewer had taken an iPhone Plus and an X and put them side by side, and loaded a safari page with just text on it, enabled with the same text size, and compared how much more or less readable text you have.
I don't take a lot of pictures of people jumping around, but I do read a lot on my iPhone. Guess I'll have to wait until Friday.

As far as I can tell, you'll get the same amount of text visible as on an iphone 8. Just a smidge larger.
 
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Yep, that's what ticks me off with reviewers these days. They have no idea what they are talking about in order to make a real impact in people's choices. The fact that it was even brought up about old apps look bad on the phone is just a sign of someone who really should not be in this business. Can't blame the phone.. can't blame apple.. can only blame developers. But of course it's considered a major issue to the verge so hey lets all jump ship on the X. Agh!
It’s not about “blame”, it’s about the user experience obviously. That’s the purpose of a review.
 
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Im hoping it's like Touch ID in that if it fails, then your password can unlock. Of course, not 1 reviewer has mentioned this.
Yep that works, it was sort of done during the Keynote when Face ID didn't work at first. He put the password in, then logged in with Face ID. Back when people claimed Face ID was garbage and didn't work. Oh wait.. people are still doing that. There are obvious issues with it however, it does work and is version 1. Same thing was said with Touch ID.. slow.. unresponsive at times.. suddenly 2.0 came out and those issues for the most part went away. Same will be the case here.
 
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Lol. Literally exactly what you should never do is not a 'non-starter'. iPhones are not shared devices. And certainly not shared so often that you would need to get in with Face ID.

LOL. Some people.
R.E.L.A.X dude. Not everyone in here, at least not me, shows the blind love-fest towards Apple. Prowling this board to counterpoint each post that you feel is questioning an Apple feature is what is "nauseating", using your own words.

I get it, maybe you do not. The OP you refuted has a very valid point, in my opinion.

This is a first-gen FaceID. Apple will refine further, no doubt. FaceID is a major accomplishment, but it is first-gen and will see iterative improvements. Eventually FaceID will allow multiple face profiles to allow in-family sharing -- same as TouchID does today, with multiple finger profiles.

So I ask?
When Apple magically launches FaceID Release 2.0 with multiple face profiles, what will you then say?

Just my opinion.
 
The Verge's experience with FaceID is very concerning. If it's fickle in different lighting conditions--and with no option to get into the phone other than using a passcode that will get annoying real quick.

Add to that the extra step in opening the phone, swiping after face ID does recognize you. I can see this getting annoying after doing it dozens of times per day.
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And how well does Touch ID work with wet or very dry/cracked fingers? I’m not expecting Face ID to work under every conceivable situation. I don’t think Apple has promised that either.

That's a good point. When conditions are not optimal I find that touch ID fails a LOT, it's pretty much guaranteed to fail with even very mild conditions as you state. Although I share others fears about face ID being annoying, when put into perspective it probably won't have a worse fail rate than touch ID.
 
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