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Apple will dethrone Samsung as the world's largest smartphone maker in the fourth quarter of 2017, on the strength of strong iPhone X demand, according to Taiwanese market research firm TrendForce.

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TrendForce estimates Apple will record 19.1 percent market share in the quarter, encompassing the busy holiday shopping season, which would be slightly ahead of Samsung's estimated 18.2 percent market share. Chinese vendors Huawei, OPPO, and Xiaomi are expected to round off the top five.

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The feat would be impressive as always given that Samsung sells over a dozen different smartphone models, including some as cheap as $200, whereas Apple primarily caters to the high-end market beyond the iPhone SE for $349.
Samsung is expected to slightly scale back the production of its high-end models in the fourth quarter as the brand is seeing the sales of its smartphones being squeezed by the strong demand for Apple's latest iPhone devices. TrendForce estimates that Samsung's fourth-quarter total volume will come to 77 million units, a 5% drop from the third quarter.
The fourth quarter has always been the strongest for Apple, given it launches new devices in the fall, allowing it to surpass Samsung in the year-ago quarter as well. Samsung's Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+ were released back in April, so sales momentum is likely beginning to decline for those devices.

Meanwhile, market research firm Canalys estimates the iPhone 8 Plus outpaced the iPhone 8 last quarter with shipments of 6.3 million units and 5.4 million units respectively. Canalys said the iPhone 8 Plus is the first Plus-sized iPhone to out-ship its smaller 4.7-inch sibling in a single quarter.

Apple doesn't disclose iPhone sales on a model-by-model basis, but chief Tim Cook said the iPhone 8 Plus has "gotten off to the fastest start of any Plus model," which came as "a bit of a surprise" to the company.

As far as iPhone X sales are concerned, Apple's guidance of $84-$87 billion revenue for the holiday quarter suggests that demand for the device will be significant. Apple should easily beat its all-time record for revenue in a single quarter of $78.4 billion, achieved in the fourth quarter of 2016.

Article Link: iPhone X Should Push Apple Ahead of Samsung as World's Largest Smartphone Maker
 
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The X is a great phone but not everybody wants one. I bought one unlocked for my partner and he didn’t want it, so I took it back. He prefers the 7 Plus. I couldn’t go back to the Plus.
 
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Really looking forward to getting the X. Still rocking a 5S which has flaky Wi-Fi performance and battery life that would be best described as "permanently tethered to charger".

I've been holding off on upgrading for years but the X was just too irresistible.
 
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The feat would be impressive as always given that Samsung sells over a dozen different smartphone models, including some as cheap as $200, whereas Apple primarily caters to the high-end market beyond the iPhone SE for $349.

Uh, Samsung sells boatloads of phones in the $50-100 range. The majority of their sales are also in this range. That’s why their ASP is in the low $200 range, and why you can’t compare total sales from each company.
 
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"Meanwhile, market research firm Canalys estimates the iPhone 8 Plus outpaced the iPhone 8 last quarter with shipments of 6.3 million units and 5.4 million units respectively. Canalys said the iPhone 8 Plus is the first Plus-sized iPhone to out-ship its smaller 4.7-inch sibling in a single quarter."

Please Apple, release a X (plus)... as I wrap up my X "rental" for a return this weekend. The skinny iPhone 5esque X screen is a deal breaker for many... Going back to a true plus sized phone...
 
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Apple will dethrone Samsung as the world's largest smartphone maker in the fourth quarter of 2017, on the strength of strong iPhone X demand, according to Taiwanese market research firm TrendForce.

iphone-x-vs-samsung-galaxy.jpg

TrendForce estimates Apple will record 19.1 percent market share in the quarter, encompassing the busy holiday shopping season, which would be slightly ahead of Samsung's estimated 18.2 percent market share. Chinese vendors Huawei, OPPO, and Xiaomi are expected to round off the top five.

trendforce-q4-17-800x288.jpg

The feat would be impressive as always given that Samsung sells over a dozen different smartphone models, including some as cheap as $200, whereas Apple primarily caters to the high-end market beyond the iPhone SE for $349.The fourth quarter has always been the strongest for Apple, given it launches new devices in the fall, allowing it to surpass Samsung in the year-ago quarter as well. Samsung's Galaxy S8 and Galaxy S8+ were released back in April, so sales momentum is likely beginning to decline for those devices.

Meanwhile, market research firm Canalys estimates the iPhone 8 Plus outpaced the iPhone 8 last quarter with shipments of 6.3 million units and 5.4 million units respectively. Canalys said the iPhone 8 Plus is the first Plus-sized iPhone to out-ship its smaller 4.7-inch sibling in a single quarter.

Apple doesn't disclose iPhone sales on a model-by-model basis, but chief Tim Cook said the iPhone 8 Plus has "gotten off to the fastest start of any Plus model," which came as "a bit of a surprise" to the company.

As far as iPhone X sales are concerned, Apple's guidance of $84-$87 billion revenue for the holiday quarter suggests that demand for the device will be significant. Apple should easily beat its all-time record for revenue in a single quarter of $78.4 billion, achieved in the fourth quarter of 2016.

Article Link: iPhone X Should Push Apple Ahead of Samsung as World's Largest Smartphone Maker
This needs to be said; Where are some of the naysayers who thought Tim Cook would drive Apple into the ground and the company would not go anywhere without Steve Jobs.
 
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Really looking forward to getting the X. Still rocking a 5S which has flaky Wi-Fi performance and battery life that would be best described as "permanently tethered to charger".

I've been holding off on upgrading for years but the X was just too irresistible.
Wow, you didn’t even trade in for the iPhone SE? My 5s got like yours toward the end of a year and even my kid couldn’t use it so we got the SE for her. Even I got an SE I used for a year and still have it. Well anyway I’m happy for you getting the X. I hope it serves you well.
 
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Good for Apple, not so good for customers. It means they're going to continue selling expensive phones since X is a success.
This year we have 8 and 8+ at the usual price points, while X is a more expensive model. But what if they sell their "base" new model at $999 in the future?
 
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This needs to be said; Where are some of the naysayers who thought Tim Cook would drive Apple into the ground and the company would not go anywhere without Steve Jobs.
Those people are the same people that claimed Apple would be doomed when Jobs pulled out licenses for 3rd party "Macs." The same people made fun of Jobs for the iPod. And don't forget how many people laughed at the first iPhone. Now they pretend to be Jobs' fanboys just because a new guy is in the helm. Same old story
 
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Putting them side by side in this picture does kinda show the S8 is the better looking phone, purely because it doesn't have that idiotic notch at the top. Renders the screen next to it pretty much useless.
 
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keysofanxiety

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Wow, you didn’t even trade in for the iPhone SE? My 5s got like yours toward the end of a year and even my kid couldn’t use it so we got the SE for her. Even I got an SE I used for a year and still have it. Well anyway I’m happy for you getting the X. I hope it serves you well.

Yeah I'm a bit of a stickler for stubbornly running tech into the ground. I was still on an iPhone 4 but iOS 6 crippled that and iOS 7 made it unusable, so I was forced to upgrade.

Similar sort of story here I guess, but I'm genuinely hyped for the X in a way that I haven't been since I first bought the iPhone 4.
 
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keysofanxiety

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Putting them side by side in this picture does kinda show the S8 is the better looking phone, purely because it doesn't have that idiotic notch at the top. Renders the screen next to it pretty much useless.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Personally I'm not fond of the S8's looks and I think the X is gorgeous. Each to their own.
 
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This needs to be said; Where are some of the naysayers who thought Tim Cook would drive Apple into the ground and the company would not go anywhere without Steve Jobs.

Don't worry, naysayers are coming... Probably working out how to turn this positive into negative....

I can't wait for my X to arrive.....
 
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