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Before everybody is breaking the champagne, this is just an estimate from a consultant company.

Imo it's not Apple who is taking Samsung's market share. It's the Huawei, Oppo, and Xiaomi. They are taking Samsung's lunch on the low to mid-range segment.

Even if Apple sells just as many as Samsung's then it is still a huge achievement, considering the amount of different models that Samsung sells....

And yes you are right about cheaper brands putting a squeeze on Samsung in low price category....
 
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Samsung is in several industries and isn't a one-trick pony. They must be shaking in their boots if they believe their income solely relies on selling mobile phones forever and ever. Good for Apple. But if iPhone declines, Apple declines. The iPhone is nearly 70% of their profits.

If Samsung leaves the mobile industry, they are perfectly fine doing other things like selling appliances, medicine, clothes, construction, shipping, semiconductor, et cetera, et cetera. Renaissance man. It's like Sony not really being known for banking but they are.
 
Nope.. That's korean folks.. :p Me is malaysia.. We see a lot of brand and not all people use samsung anyway..

Just out of curiosity, what phone do you mostly see people using in Malaysia? You said it's rare to see iPhones and not everyone uses Samsung, so what the most popular phone?
 
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Putting them side by side in this picture does kinda show the S8 is the better looking phone, purely because it doesn't have that idiotic notch at the top. Renders the screen next to it pretty much useless.
I love when people make posts like this and don't tag it as "IMO," because IMO the notch is better than wasting the space next to it by pushing the battery, signal, time, and wifi indicators down and using the full part of the screen and taking away space from the apps you're using. So I guess if you don't like utilizing as much space as possible, then sure, the notch is idiotic.
 
Very surprised by this. Obviously Apple sells the most of any flagship phone, but with all the cheap Samsung phones out there, never thought they could sell more. Lot's of buy one get ones and 1 cent Samsung deals out there.
 
This needs to be said; Where are some of the naysayers who thought Tim Cook would drive Apple into the ground and the company would not go anywhere without Steve Jobs.
Well to be fair to naysayers, which I am sometimes, Tim Cook is at the helm of decisions that seem to emphasize the counting of the beans more than Steve Jobs would have recommended, as can be deduced by some of Steve’s past interviews. But he’s bringing in many beans by selling many iPhones to many happy people like my husband, who just loves the X even after giving a couple of Android and Samsung flagships a good spin. It’s hard to argue with that kind of success.

And I don’t recall Steve having the Chinese to contend with both as potential rivals and as potential customers. That would have come, in time, for him, had he lived. That’s a tough nut to crack. I’ve been watching TC handle that one with a certain horrified fascination after seeing other companies get eaten alive swimming in the same sea with those same sharks. I’m impressed he’s maneuvered as well as he has there.

He’s had to position Apple as a global company and expand its image beyond the line of computers that defined its early identity and even beyond smartphones into wearables. As an early adopter of the Apple Watch and a believer in its potential, it’s been fun seeing it on more and more people. Not as an Apple Sheep, but as someone who appreciated the concept from the beginning and thought it was a promising implementation of a sound vision.
 
As the article said, this happened last year, too. The sales of iPhones surge this time of year because that's when the new ones are launched. When Samsung launches a new product, they move back to the head of the line again.

I think that the X has made people decide. Do they want the X? Do they want the 8/8 plus? Are they on an older model and think the 7/7 plus is good for their intended use?

And, then they buy.
 
I own Apple stock. Apple should loose a little money on the Mac Pro to restore reputation.

As far as the phones go, a bad product is a product designed to be thrown away. (Yes Apple stuff can be recycled but that still is wasted energy.) The 2017 phones are epic failures by my rubric.
 
Putting them side by side in this picture does kinda show the S8 is the better looking phone, purely because it doesn't have that idiotic notch at the top. Renders the screen next to it pretty much useless.

I disagree. I would rather have the notch with FaceID than TouchID relocated to the back.
 
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I don't think anyone at this point cares if Apple Inc is the worlds biggest smartphone company. First place, second place, third place... they're all meaningless metrics. It would be a lot better for all of us (and apple) if apple was farther down the line. Like maybe #4 or 5.
 
The X is a great phone but not everybody wants one. I bought one unlocked for my partner and he didn’t want it, so I took it back. He prefers the 7 Plus. I couldn’t go back to the Plus.

Just wondering what your partner didn't like about the iPhone X. I am still waiting for mine and the one feature I like is the screen size 'similar' to the Plus with a footprint just a tad bigger than the iPhone 8.
 
Just out of curiosity, what phone do you mostly see people using in Malaysia? You said it's rare to see iPhones and not everyone uses Samsung, so what the most popular phone?
Most i see now is huawei,Asus,oppo,Xiomi and vivo. Lenovo drop market a lot after a lot of fake china copycat. Samsung pretty bad because of slow update..

For myself i have used variety of nokia,android,iphone and windows phone.

Iphone rare because the cost here is 5000 MYR for iphone X which price 2x normal person average wage.
 
I don't think anyone at this point cares if Apple Inc is the worlds biggest smartphone company. First place, second place, third place... they're all meaningless metrics. It would be a lot better for all of us (and apple) if apple was farther down the line. Like maybe #4 or 5.

It doesn't matter to regular iPhone buyers but it does to AAPL holders. ;)
 
Impressive, given the new price points of their phones.

Holy cow, I'm so interested to hear the next quarterly earnings reports. Must be off the chain.
 
Samsung is in several industries and isn't a one-trick pony. They must be shaking in their boots if they believe their income solely relies on selling mobile phones forever and ever. Good for Apple. But if iPhone declines, Apple declines. The iPhone is nearly 70% of their profits.

If Samsung leaves the mobile industry, they are perfectly fine doing other things like selling appliances, medicine, clothes, construction, shipping, semiconductor, et cetera, et cetera. Renaissance man. It's like Sony not really being known for banking but they are.


I’m not a stock guy or a business guy for that matter. But I highly doubt what you are saying is the truth. It’s hard for me to believe just because a company sells a lot of something else that they could stop selling a product that they sell probably more of and still be ok.
 
Samsung is expected to slightly scale back the production of its high-end models in the fourth quarter as the brand is seeing the sales of its smartphones being squeezed by the strong demand for Apple's latest iPhone devices

When you see Samsung attacking Apple customers in ads, you know they are in panic mode.
 
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Company who I buy a product from sells more of that product than another company that sells a similiar product.

Can someone please explain why some people are getting so excited over this?
 
I love when people make posts like this and don't tag it as "IMO," because IMO the notch is better than wasting the space next to it by pushing the battery, signal, time, and wifi indicators down and using the full part of the screen and taking away space from the apps you're using. So I guess if you don't like utilizing as much space as possible, then sure, the notch is idiotic.

Exactly.

Apple obviously needs hardware at the top of the screen for the earpiece, camera and FaceID sensors.

But instead of wasting space across the entire top of the phone... they put everything in the middle and flanked it with two extra screen areas for info. You're right... your clock and battery icon don't have to invade your app area anymore.

Samsung, on the other hand, has a bezel at the top that stretches ALL the way across... thus pushing your clock, battery and notifications into the main screen area.

Oh... and they have a second bezel at the bottom of the phone... that actually does nothing! It's blank!

Samsung Galaxy S8! Two bezels! Top and bottom!

How come no one ever talks about that? :p
 
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Not unexpected. Apple releases their new phones at a time when a majority of sales will be in the December 31 quarter. Same thing happened last year.

The trend to watch is percentages on a yearly basis which will smooth out the launch bumps that inevitably occur. Based on the numbers in this article and the other one linked the percentages for Apple are 16.1%, 14.5%, and 15.1% for 2015, 2016, and 2017 respectively. The percentages for Samsung are 22.2%, 20.8%, and 21.8% for those same years. Not a significant variance.

Both Apple and Samsung are holding steady in terms of market share and the total number of phones sold each year is also stable. Despite this being a supercycle quarter Apple is expected to sell about 4.7% more phones than it did in the same quarter last year. It remains to be seen if that increased sales rate will continue through the remaining quarters after the initial demand for the X is met.

The iPhone X is certainly not tanking, but it also isn't returning Apple to meaningful growth in market share. Apple's growth is mirroring the overall market which has slowed down tremendously over the last few years. The market is pretty well saturated.
 
Good for Apple, not so good for customers. It means they're going to continue selling expensive phones since X is a success.
This year we have 8 and 8+ at the usual price points, while X is a more expensive model. But what if they sell their "base" new model at $999 in the future?

You get what you paid for. It's not like they just price the X starting at $999 for fun.
 
Upon reflection, the 8 Plus actually outselling the regular 8 actually makes sense. Those who like big displays are more likely to buy the Plus, they wouldn’t be as interested in the X. Those who don’t like Plus size phones then split their buying between two models, having an option of the 8 or the X.

After the initial rush, when those who want the latest/greatest have gotten their X, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the 8 Plus outsell both the 8 and the X, ongoingly.
 
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