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Apple received approval from the FCC today to sell the iPhone XR in the United States, ahead of pre-orders next month.

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Apple can now remove the following fine print from the iPhone XR product page on its website, although it has yet to do so:iPhone XR pre-orders begin Friday, October 19, with the first deliveries to customers and in-store availability starting a week later, on Friday, October 26. The colorful device starts at $749 in the United States.

With a $250 lower price point, the iPhone XR doesn't have all of the bells and whistles of the iPhone XS or iPhone XS Max. Some of the trade-offs include an LCD rather than OLED display, an aluminum instead of stainless steel frame, and a single rather than dual rear camera. Read our full comparison.

Nevertheless, the iPhone XR has the same A12 Bionic chip as the iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max, and its advertised battery life is longer than both of those devices. It also has a nearly edge-to-edge display with a notch, Face ID, a glass back, wireless charging, Portrait Mode with Depth Control, and Smart HDR.

Given its many similarities to the iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max, priced from $999 and $1,099 respectively, many tech reviewers have suggested waiting for the less-expensive iPhone XR. Orders begin in three weeks.

As far as FCC approval is concerned, it is a routine step before the launch of any new iPhone. However, Apple usually waits until the last minute to receive approval from the necessary regulatory agencies, whereas the iPhone XR has been somewhat surprisingly approved nearly a month ahead of sale.

Article Link: iPhone XR Receives FCC Approval Ahead of October 19 Pre-Orders

I think the real question is if the Xr will have the same fate like the 5c - a one-off budget line, which Apple killed the year after its release, or if this will be a sustainable new line of budget phones.

The edge-to-edge design will be the norm for ALL iphones as this is the general future design from now on.
 
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There is no doubt in my mind the XR will sell really well.
mine too. i'd rather have the LCD screen anyway! I can't upgrade until next year but after going with a plus this time around i'd rather have a smaller phone I drop the big one too much....I love my MOUS case but will be nice to have it fit better in my small hands!
 
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$750 > $1000 for low-mid range spec, 2012ish 780p LCD, 3 GB RAM, NO dual camera...with dual SIM availability unsure...mmm...no need to bother...

But A12 bionic overkill and faceid is nice! 6.1 inch is good but low resolution!

As a person owns Android mobile, this not such a hard decision to skip!

You do realize that the Xr only needs the A12 chip to destroy the majority of Android phones, right?
 
It's a non story, what do we expect, this was a done deal months ago, do you really think Apple starting production, which they very likely (Like 99.9%) already did before they get FCC approval.

Non story/news-/slow news day.

Well. FCC leaks products all the time, so probably Apple wanted to avoid that?
 
$750 > $1000 for low-mid range spec, 2012ish 780p LCD, 3 GB RAM, NO dual camera...with dual SIM availability unsure...mmm...no need to bother...

But A12 bionic overkill and faceid is nice! 6.1 inch is good but low resolution!

As a person owns Android mobile, this not such a hard decision to skip!
As someone who has used Android devices, it only makes iOS devices more attractive.
 
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You are correct. You did not say in every single way. I was confusing another post. Sorry about that.

However, to deny a bigger screen and longer battery life are advantages is just odd.

Once again, I disagree.

As the premise of my posts was that I find a bigger footprint (of the XR & screen over the XS) to be a disadvantage - so how can this be odd? The fact that a bigger phone will and should have a bigger battery and as demonstrated by other models, is not my argument.
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The Xs/XsMax is the natural successor/upgrade of the X. The Xr is an entirely new phone line (no matter if it shares some specs with the other phones)... it’s quite simple.

I am fully aware of the difference between the XS and the XR, but this has nothing to do with my posts / thread.

So what is your point, in line with my thread? As you make a point that is not relevant to my entire thread posting?
 
How come I always see broken image links on this forum? I never see the images themselves. When I paste the URL in my browser, I get:
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If you see a generic image thumbnail, try to right-click on it and select Open Image In a New Tab.
 
You do realize that the Xr only needs the A12 chip to destroy the majority of Android phones, right?
What are "most" Android phones? You mean phones that cost way less than $750? The Xr is not going to destroy Android phones within its price range. Matter of fact what's more embarrassing is that the $350 pocophone is faster than the XS Max, XS, and Xr...while having a higher res screen than the Xr
 
this page says iPhone xr will only support 3/5 photo lighting modes on the front camera: https://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/compare/

this video shows iPhone xr supporting all five photo lighting modes on the front camera (at 1:36):


this looks like proof apple plans to disable the modes through software and deny their use to XR customers - there is no hardware impediment to the camera modes running on the xr

thoughts?

Dat thicc bezel tho
 
What are "most" Android phones? You mean phones that cost way less than $750? The Xr is not going to destroy Android phones within its price range. Matter of fact what's more embarrassing is that the $350 pocophone is faster than the XS Max, XS, and Xr...while having a higher res screen than the Xr

Interesting, though to me the Pocophone is just another One Plus clone in terms of pricing-features strategy, meaning that if they survive their phones will continue increasing in price, because it’s just not financially sustainable otherwise...

Any chance you can share a spec comparison in speed between the pocophone and the A12? As far as I remember (maybe am wrong), the Pocophone still uses the 845 cpu, no?
 
$750 > $1000 for low-mid range spec, 2012ish 780p LCD, 3 GB RAM, NO dual camera...with dual SIM availability unsure...mmm...no need to bother...

But A12 bionic overkill and faceid is nice! 6.1 inch is good but low resolution!

As a person owns Android mobile, this not such a hard decision to skip!

Aaaah remember the days when plastic phones were considered budget? Now, we moved on to “budget” Aluminum phones...
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mine too. i'd rather have the LCD screen anyway! I can't upgrade until next year but after going with a plus this time around i'd rather have a smaller phone I drop the big one too much....I love my MOUS case but will be nice to have it fit better in my small hands!

I like the OLED screen, but my AW3 burn-in screen, I don’t like — much prefer to stick with LCD for the time being, especially with bigger size displays...
 
Because it will look like this:

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I am sure there are folks who like the phone to look like this. But when the screen is nearly edge-to-edge, the white bezel really stands out and clashes with the screen.

I see your point, particularly with the notch and all those sensors. But, even in the current iPhones, some of those sensors are obscured under white glass, so I’m not sure what would be possible here. Certainly the other article about obscuring the camera in future phones would apply here too I’m guessing.

That said, I was actually thinking about only doing an outline, and omitting the notch from the contrasting color. The notch makes the design appear more asymmetrical than it already is. Who knows, maybe that would make the notch less apparent being framed by a contrasting border.

As you say, some people would still prefer it. I’m not sure I wouldn’t. I’d have to see it for real. I didn’t really like the white version in the beginning, but later developed an appreciation for it, despite hating the stark contrast of the camera, sensors, and speaker.

I totally agree. Since getting an X last year I can't tell you how often I lose my phone as soon as I get home now. Constantly getting set on dark surfaces. I miss my contrast. Thank god for Apple Watch's ping option.

It’s funny you mention this. It’s exactly why I went to white to begin with. I walked away from meetings where I had left it laying on the arm of a black leather chair one too many times ... and that was the iPhone 4 with a shiny silver side band. I left it on the treadmill at the gym, or gym benches, or lying on the black rubber floor ... all of that stopped when I got the white one.
 
Seriously thinking about returning my GMax for a yellow XR.

I'm curious. How likely are you to return your original purchase before its replacement is available? Can you function without a phone for weeks? Remember, you only have 14 days to express buyer's remorse. Some skeptics think the uncustomary gap between the phone models is intentional. Buyers of the more expensive models won't be able to return theirs if they think the XR is a better value later.
 
I'm curious. How likely are you to return your original purchase before its replacement is available? Can you function without a phone for weeks? Remember, you only have 14 days to express buyer's remorse. Some skeptics think the uncustomary gap between the phone models is intentional. Buyers of the more expensive models won't be able to return theirs if they think the XR is a better value later.
A lot of people have backup phones. Two weeks on an old phone that supports text, email, and voice would be acceptable for many. Even a cheap Android phone would suffice.
 
A lot of people have backup phones. Two weeks on an old phone that supports text, email, and voice would be acceptable for many. Even a cheap Android phone would suffice.

I imagine the type of person who is excited by phones and has to have the latest model will probably commit suicide by day two.
 
I'm curious. How likely are you to return your original purchase before its replacement is available? Can you function without a phone for weeks? Remember, you only have 14 days to express buyer's remorse. Some skeptics think the uncustomary gap between the phone models is intentional. Buyers of the more expensive models won't be able to return theirs if they think the XR is a better value later.
I still have my red 7+. Also I’m not dying for a new phone so no problem waiting. However, as I’m getting more used to my Max and since this phone doesn’t exhibit all these “issues” talked about in this forum I may end up keeping this phone.
 
Interesting, though to me the Pocophone is just another One Plus clone in terms of pricing-features strategy, meaning that if they survive their phones will continue increasing in price, because it’s just not financially sustainable otherwise...

Any chance you can share a spec comparison in speed between the pocophone and the A12? As far as I remember (maybe am wrong), the Pocophone still uses the 845 cpu, no?
in real life usage, poco is faster

 
Practical usage Pocophone is faster. How many people render on a phone? 1%?
Opening an app is not practical usage. It's how fast the app gets it's work done, which the iphone will demolish. As far as how many people render using imovie, I do and do it frequently to edit movies that I share with my family. I daresay between apps like clips and imovie there may be more usage than you postulate.
 
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