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Wow, great pickup. Interesting. Yeah, it sounds like they will artificially limit the portrait mode support. Personally I don't really care though, since the only one I'm really interested in is Natural.

same, I think they're gimmicks. just seems a bit of a slip up on their part to show the phones successfully running features they are going to artificially disable before sale (purposefully making it a worse product)
 
i believe the XR will sell well. the price tag is the same area as the 8/8plus.
The XR is actually cheaper than the 8 Plus if you want more than 64 GB. However, the 8 Plus has a higher pixel density screen.

i'm in the minority of customers who really wanted a smaller phone. the major reason i went with the XS with its $250 premium is the larger size of the XR. the XS is essentially the same size as my iPhone 6/7 and while i cannot completely one hand it due to the corner-to-corner screen to cover, it's usable one handed most of the time.

i of course am glad to have the dual camera on the rear and OLED display. but if they had made the XR with a 5.8" screen (it might have had to have been 5.6-5.7" with larger bezels), i would have likely waited and bought the XR next month.
In terms of math, to make a smaller one, the size that would make the most sense would be a 5.5" LCD at 326 ppi. Analogous to the XR vs XS Max, the screen of this 5.5" LCD would be physically smaller than the XS' screen but would display the same amount of information. I've postulated before that they might introduce this in 2019. However, that is just based on the math and my own conjecture. I have no inside info of course.
 
Reference the Bolded, I’m not following your argument here. How is OLED pointless? Could I make the same argument that LCD is pointless just because I don’t prefer LCD panels? My point is, OLED is vastly different from LCD, and a lot of ways it’s improved, theu are brighter, they don’t consume as much power as LCD and they have a larger field of viewing as they produce their own light, etc. so, OLED is certainly _not_ pointless.
Its not a preference. The actual way the tech works causes people to have vision problems with it. The tradeoffs don’t outweigh the benefits
 
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Why is this even news.

With the avalanche of info released, it's helpful to get updates. I was not aware that the XR did not have approval yet, and I forget when it was expected to become for sale. So yes, this article is helpful for me.
[doublepost=1538102930][/doublepost]The XR sets the stage for an updated SE. We can only dream.
 
i of course am glad to have the dual camera on the rear and OLED display. but if they had made the XR with a 5.8" screen (it might have had to have been 5.6-5.7" with larger bezels), i would have likely waited and bought the XR next month.

Maybe Apple will launch smaller LCD iPhone (XQ?) next year with 5.5” screen that has the same screen real estate as the 5.8” iPhone?
 
I wish they would offer the XS in Red.
Limited color choices with Stainless Steel, because of Physical Vapor Deposition.
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The supply chain analysts are suggesting the XS sales are underwhelming, easily bested by the Max several fold, but yet come November, the XR should outsell the Max 2.5 to 1.
Same people who said iPhone X sales were disappointing ?
 
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The REAL new iPhone..

Spot on.

XR has nearly all the features of XS, including the dynamic depth of field, has a better battery life, better screen resolution (as XS Max but at a smaller size), it's available in a bunch of colours and costs less. That should be a hit.

Plus I prefer LCD over OLED (no burn in and no flickering). XR is the best iPhone.
 
$750 > $1000 for low-mid range spec, 2012ish 780p LCD, 3 GB RAM, NO dual camera...with dual SIM availability unsure...mmm...no need to bother...

But A12 bionic overkill and faceid is nice! 6.1 inch is good but low resolution!

As a person owns Android mobile, this not such a hard decision to skip!
 
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Because it will look like this:

How come I always see broken image links on this forum? I never see the images themselves. When I paste the URL in my browser, I get:
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You don't have permission to access /article-new/2017/08/iphone8dummy2.jpg&hash=fe6d1346df504df6af71d9c8c0744530 on this server.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
 
What are the specs on that GMax?
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I wouldn't believe that. In any case the analysts are saying the XR will likely represent 50%+ of unit sales, with the XS Max around 20%. The remaining 30% will be split between the XS, 8 Plus, 8, 7 Plus, and 7.

That would assume that the Max has been a runaway success, and was produced in larger numbers than the XS. The evidence seems to show that Apple did not quickly sell down its initial inventory of the Max, though (so they have over-predicted initial demand compared to previous releases, and the total sales volume will probably slip compared with previous Plus models). Apple must surely be hoping that significantly more than 50% of unit sales go to the XR so that it can continue to sustain growth (higher profit than the 8/7, but less than the XS). Expect a massive advertising campaign!
2.5x may well be conservative if Apple can trigger the demand.

The question is whether Apple has deliberately priced up the XS, knowing that it won't sell, in order to boost XS Max sales and allow a quiet increase in XR prices, or has simply been caught out by consumer resistance to the price point that it intended for its main product.
 
That would assume that the Max has been a runaway success, and was produced in larger numbers than the XS. The evidence seems to show that Apple did not quickly sell down its initial inventory of the Max, though (so they have over-predicted initial demand compared to previous releases, and the total sales volume will probably slip compared with previous Plus models). Apple must surely be hoping that significantly more than 50% of unit sales go to the XR so that it can continue to sustain growth (higher profit than the 8/7, but less than the XS). Expect a massive advertising campaign!
2.5x may well be conservative if Apple can trigger the demand.

The question is whether Apple has deliberately priced up the XS, knowing that it won't sell, in order to boost XS Max sales and allow a quiet increase in XR prices, or has simply been caught out by consumer resistance to the price point that it intended for its main product.
I hope it’s the latter, which would provide incentive for Apple not to be so ridiculous in their OLED iPhone pricing next year. I’m not that optimistic though.
 
...The question is whether Apple has deliberately priced up the XS, knowing that it won't sell, in order to boost XS Max sales and allow a quiet increase in XR prices, or has simply been caught out by consumer resistance to the price point that it intended for its main product.
I would suggest Apple knows exactly what it is doing and have a very good idea of the movement or churn with the new phones. The analysts and media are attempting to guess what apple’s targets are and apply their own biases to apple’s targets. (As occurs every year)
 
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Now that the XR have the green light from the FCC, I'll have to wait for it to hit the stores so I can check it out.

lol, I was similarly confused!

I hate when people make up their own random acronyms, nicknames & whatnot and pretend like everyone should know what they’re talking about.
You should have seen arguments on here when the 1st Apple Watch came out & was being compared to Google’s offerings.
1/2 of the posters had decided that AW meant Apple Watch, while the other 1/2 decided it meant Android Wear.
Omg, it was a mad house!!!!

Now that entertaining!

You must live somewhere to take advantage of the Gigabit LTE for it to make your top 4. Here in the southeast US, I am happy if I can get more than 20Mbps speeds.
I agree and it there is no hint or indication of when the 5G will be up and running at this time. Even if it is available, I think it will be mostly only at large cities and less so at smaller populated areas. I've been in areas that aren't getting 4G or even strong signals and this is what carriers need to work on.
 
Actually, the XR beats the XS in two key factors:

1) Screen display area and information on screen. The XR is not only a bigger screen, it's also displays 22% more information than the XS.

2) Battery life. The XR should have about 25% longer battery life than the XS.

I think Appe kinda messed up with the Xr in terms of specs compared to the Xs... they had the best intentions of making this a more “budget” phone and it ended up being quite hi-end phone instead...
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These are both superior features of the XR. Just because you don't want or need them doesn't mean they're not an advantages of the XR.

And yes, having a longer range in a car is definitely an advantage. BTW, since you mentioned Ferraris, I have zero use for one. Totally impractical vehicle, and insanely expensive. But if you want to buy one, go ahead.
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The screen of the XR is designed to display the same amount of information as the XS Max. Both of them display 22% more screen information than the XS.

The battery life as rated by Apple is the longest on the XR, with the XS Max coming in second. We already have battery life benchmarks out there confirming that the XS Max lasts a lot longer than the XS. Given that Apple says the XR should last even longer, a reasonable estimate would be that the XR lasts 25% longer than the XS.

My current understanding was that both Xr ans XsMax batteries last 90 minutes more than the Xs...
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Eh? Who are they? Maybe you need to read the thread.

However, I am being told that the XR (that is not even out for review yet) is better than the XS and nobody has said that either. However Apple has stated that the XS is a superior phone and in line with their product pricing point.

The Xs/XsMax is the natural successor/upgrade of the X. The Xr is an entirely new phone line (no matter if it shares some specs with the other phones)... it’s quite simple.
 
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