iPhone XR Was Best Selling iPhone in U.S. in Q3 2019

[swagi]

I did not flashed custom rom because of Google. I have Google installed in LineageOS My setup is not even rooted. I flashed it because I like the feature offered by LineageOS compared to the stock rom of Pocohpone F1, but I wish the Second Space of MIUI is available on LineageOS its a great feature for multi-user phone. It allows you to create a totally different user account in your phone.

Like I said I am not using facial rec not because of the quality of facial rec of my phone because I don't like facial rec. It is very efficient and productive for me using fingerprint sensor compared to a facial rec. If ever I am buying an iPhone I will be looking for a Touch ID iPhone. In my MacBook Air Retina I am not using my Touch ID because I don't see any big difference in productivity and efficiency compared to typing my passphrase. When I purchased from App Store I typed my password not with Touch ID. Not because I like fingerprint sensor on my phone I will also like it in my laptop. What I'm trying to say is that when I try to use a tech or a feature I will always ask my self is this very useful for me or it's just something that is available and very high-tech but is not very useful. Same with your idea of NVME, you have it on your iPhone but you are not even reading/writing data at 150Mbps because you can't transfer files to external storage aside from using cloud which is limited by your Internet connection.

Same with A12 proc or Snapdragon 855 processor, you have a very fast processor however you are only watching Youtube, Facebooking, reading PDF, visiting websites. What's the point of having a fast processor if you are not running demanding applications. If you are planning to play 3d games and doing some video editing on your phone then go ahead buy those overpriced phones. For a $350 Pocophone F1, I am able to open at least 30 tabs of webpages which some of them are in desktop view while uTorrent is downloading and some other apps that I did not close. When it comes to security, LineageOS is much better than iOS because it will never call home. Your data is totally lock into your phone and it has SELinux, a desktop grade OS security and a Privacy Guard that even allows you to lock system application from accessing your contact and personal information.

I could provide a list of feature and arguments about technical things to consider when using a smartphone but having read some of your comments in this thread and some other thread it will be pointless to have a sound and objective discussion with you because you are a die hard Apple fan that will protect Apple to the death and for that you are very subjective.

I forgot, my $350 phone has dual speaker too, USB-C connection QuickCharge 3 capable, 3.1mm headphone jack

and check this

https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9293&idPhone2=9320

and by the way, about liquid cooling, it really is. If you are only not arrogant on dismissing it right away and checked for Pocophone F1 teardown

Well...having read this I just have to state that you are obviously not the target population because you obviously don't use the inbuilt security features of TouchID / FaceID.

So just to put you into perspective - I don't even know the password to many websites I frequently use because my iPhone set a randomly-chosen strong password. This password is synced to my iCloud. And therefore...

...tada...

...all these passwords - Payment informations and whatever are in a perfectly fenced garden that I also access on my MacBook Air with just the Touch of my finger.

This is what the security system behind TouchID and FaceID is about. Whether you can set up this deep integration with Android/Linux/Windows whatever - I don't know. I just find this sole feature of TouchID/FaceID nearly perfect.

 

[Lalatoon]

Go look for validation on your purchase on the XDA forums. You'll eventually get tired with all this ROM flashing and see why iOS, closed as it is, is better than Android ever has the potential to be.

What purchases? I don't get what you mean by purchases in XDA forums? Maybe I don't know what you mean because I don't have an XDA forum account.

Well...having read this I just have to state that you are obviously not the target population because you obviously don't use the inbuilt security features of TouchID / FaceID.

So just to put you into perspective - I don't even know the password to many websites I frequently use because my iPhone set a randomly-chosen strong password. This password is synced to my iCloud. And therefore...

...tada...

...all these passwords - Payment informations and whatever are in a perfectly fenced garden that I also access on my MacBook Air with just the Touch of my finger.

This is what the security system behind TouchID and FaceID is about. Whether you can set up this deep integration with Android/Linux/Windows whatever - I don't know. I just find this sole feature of TouchID/FaceID nearly perfect.

We'll I don't used FaceID or TouchID because I don't have an iPhone and in my macOS I still type my password even when purchasing from App Store. But in my Android phone I always use Finger print sensor because I hate typing password in a touch keyboard. If ever I will be having an iPhone I will be buying an iPhone with TouchID not FaceID. Even if they said that FaceID is fast I will still never use it because I hate bringing my phone to my face just to open it. I want to open it while it is the table, while in bed I just want to slide my finger and see who texted or what the notification is all about. While I'm walking I just slide my hand to my pocket and search for the touch sensor and peek if there is an important notification and I don't have to take it out fully from my pocket.

I also don't know all my passwords. The only password I know are, the password for the user account on the 3 operating system I work with - macOS, Ubuntu, TailsOS and lastly KeePass password. The rest, Gmail, vpn, macforums, battle.net, steam and other websites are accessed through KeePass which is an open source password database and is available in macOS, Windows, Android and I think iOS also.

I don't like putting my password in the cloud because it is open for attack online. Apple may claim that iCloud is secure but no one really knows specially its a closed system. Only time can tell if iCloud service is secure for storing password database.

 

[BuffaloTF]

I don’t have AppleCare on my iPhone, nor do I use a case or screen protector.

I only use a case to hold in the metal piece for a magnet car adapter... and that's relatively new in my world. Otherwise, I'd go 'naked' too... which is why I have AppleCare, which is far cheaper than insurance.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Is anybody really surprised the XR is the best seller? Even the iPhone 8/8+ seems to be selling better than the XS series in my part of the world. Why spend a £1k+ when you don’t have to?

I think the obsession with having the best most expensive iPhone has pretty much died off with the masses.

 

[GuruZac]

Well in Apple's defense, starting with the A9 and general OS optimizations, the iPhone lasts years now, getting frequent software updates that bring many of the latest features. It makes for a tough case to spend over $1000 on a phone that essentially brings you the same experience. If you want an X style iPhone experience, the XR is far and away the least expensive way to get there while not compromising on a whole lot that is important for Apple's target user.

 

[Infinite Vortex]

Well in Apple's defense, starting with the A9 and general OS optimizations, the iPhone lasts years now, getting frequent software updates that bring many of the latest features.

There is a double edge sword aspect to this though and getting 5 (or maybe more) OS upgrades isn't always a good or even pleasant thing.

Take Samsung for instance, probably the worst "offender" on the Android side that habitually doesn't offer many OS upgrades. In my case with an S10 it came with Android P, I will get Q and most likely R… and that's it, after which there are no more upgrades. If I am looking for a consistent/stable experience (being resistant to change), consistently fast and smooth operation and I don't like being badgered to death to upgrade to an OS that will only slow down and lessen my UX then having fewer upgrades is a good thing. Down the road if I want to keep it I can replace the battery in 2021 for instance and I have the same overall experience that I have today in a phone that will go 6+ years which makes it perfect to pass on to a family member/friend. So there are two way of looking at it and one is more beneficial to individuals depending on their perspective.

As for the latest features in iOS, I often find that the most useful new features are locked in to the new phones. For instance, if Apple adds a night mode to the camera in the coming iPhone XI… will that be automatically included in the iPhone Xs/Xr/X and earlier or will that be an XI and newer feature. While my S10 did a night mode thing on its own (it was weird how its own AI needed to decide to do it and I couldn't tell it to do it) out of the box I got a discreet night mode as past of a subsequent update that I thought was a security update. Would Apple do the same?

Apple will often keep the best of the new features for the new phone release. For the older phones it was never really my experience that and new upgrade feature list was worth the slower UX and/or battery usage. That being said, with the newest A-series processors (A11 and onwards) I don't believe that this impact will be as large as it previously was with older generation iPhones moving forward. Yes there were things here and there but nothing substantive. If having the newest emoji is important then yes, the access to as many upgrades as possible is important. So again, depends on what's important to you.

Be clear that I'm not saying either is right or wrong… just different.

 

[I7guy]

There is a double edge sword aspect to this though and getting 5 (or maybe more) OS upgrades isn't always a good or even pleasant thing....

I would like to have the option and for me I’ll always install an iOS update. With 32 bit devices, for some people updates were hit or miss. For 64 bit devices (save the iPhone 6) iOS upgrades seem to be fairly consistent and I always update.

 

[Infinite Vortex]

I would like to have the option and for me I’ll always install an iOS update. With 32 bit devices, for some people updates were hit or miss. For 64 bit devices (save the iPhone 6) iOS upgrades seem to be fairly consistent and I always update.

Sure… but there are parts of me that wants to keep a device as I bought it. The fact that there's no ability to go backward to what OS I was happy/happier with (like my Macs) really sucks. Don't get me wrong, I'm noticing that with my S10 going backwards is not supported either but on one level at least Samsung isn't pushing the OS version to a point that makes me need to replace my phone.

We're well past the point where "fragmentation" is something that can be avoided so why not let customers choose what makes them happiest? FWIW I'm on High Sierra on both my Macs (one came with El Capitan and the other High Sierra) that both are more than capable of supporting Mojave/Catalina.

 

[Abazigal]

Is anybody really surprised the XR is the best seller? Even the iPhone 8/8+ seems to be selling better than the XS series in my part of the world. Why spend a £1k+ when you don’t have to?

I think the obsession with having the best most expensive iPhone has pretty much died off with the masses.

I think you missed the late part of last year where there were many people (and some of the more prominent youtubers) denouncing the Xr as a failure (most notably for its LCD display) and claiming that it would fail.

Fast forward to today, and it seems that its main criticism - the 326 PPI display, simply hasn’t been the dealbreaker the more spec-obsessed critics made it out to be. In short, Apple appears to have the made the right compromises in all the right areas.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I think you missed the late part of last year where there were many people (and some of the more prominent youtubers) denouncing the Xr as a failure (most notably for its LCD display) and claiming that it would fail.

Fast forward to today, and it seems that its main criticism - the 326 PPI display, simply hasn’t been the dealbreaker the more spec-obsessed critics made it out to be. In short, Apple appears to have the made the right compromises in all the right areas.

I certainly saw the criticism online but when I compared the XR myself I knew the public weren’t going to give a toss as the screen is absolutely fine. I don’t take an awful lot of notice of YouTubers being sensational for clicks.

I’m not at all surprised it’s sold very well as it’s priced right and the deals on contract are attractive to a wider audience. When you can get an XR for £30p/m compared to an XS which is £60-80p/m you have to realise it’s fiercely competitive in the iPhone market and the mass consumer it’s obsessively researching specs before they buy.

 

[PickUrPoison]

I think you missed the late part of last year where there were many people (and some of the more prominent youtubers) denouncing the Xr as a failure (most notably for its LCD display) and claiming that it would fail.

Fast forward to today, and it seems that its main criticism - the 326 PPI display, simply hasn’t been the dealbreaker the more spec-obsessed critics made it out to be. In short, Apple appears to have the made the right compromises in all the right areas.

Apple definitely made the right choices, they do a ton of market research and they know their customers’ priorities.

But nearly all tech YouTubers are just clickbait BS. I ignore any video with a thumbnail where a guy has some dumb expression on his face and is doing some weird pose with his hands. Seems to work really well to screen out useless, waste-of-time videos.