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There's something wrong with your 7+ then. I just traded mine in (had it for a year and a half), and it was smooth as butter, especially on ios12.

I haven't updated to iOS 12 yet, since I'm very afraid of Apple's updates. Based off all my coworkers, iOS 12 didn't seem to impact performance like the previous updates have, but there is an obvious battery drain in all previous models, including the X. My boss was furious about it.

See this video and jump to 11:00:

Also note that higher back temperatures were noted, so the battery will degrade even faster than before.

I'm thinking Apple decided to sacrifice battery life and health for sustained performance. Lag is more noticeable than worse battery life.
 
i actually just got a call from a senior rep that i spoke to yesterday, and said others are having the same problem, they are aware of it. They are working on fix. His words were "it's a software problem,there is nothing wrong with your phone"... he wanted me to send logs etc etc but said it would take 45 mins or so and i didn't have too but it would be helpful.. hopefully in the next iOS update this all gets sorted out.
Hopefully software but for sure would never ever say hardware problem. If hardware they will try to minimize problems with software.
 
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Least with apple whenit comes to software they normally are quick to fix any such issue...hopefully those affected will have it sorted
 
Hopefully software but for sure would never ever say hardware problem. If hardware they will try to minimize problems with software.
I find it a bit shocking that an Apple rep would make such a point blank ballsy statement like that. To come right out and say “It’s a software problem” is a bit of a liability if this turns out to have anything to do with hardware at all. I hope he is right since he was so confident in saying that.
 
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I find it a bit shocking that an Apple rep would make such a point blank ballsy statement like that. To come right out and say “It’s a software problem” is a bit of a liability if this turns out to have anything to do with hardware at all. I hope he is right since he was so confident in saying that.
These reps are on the bottom of the pecking order. Their statements have very little value and absolutely no authority. Apple isn't going to be taken to task by what some lowly rep had to say. That's just the way it is.
 



Apple's iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max launched last Friday, and shortly after, some customers who purchased one of the new devices started noticing an issue with LTE and Wi-Fi speeds and connectivity.

According to multiple threads on the MacRumors forums, iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max users are experiencing connectivity problems with Wi-Fi and LTE on the two new iPhones when compared to other, older Apple devices.

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Multiple users have said that there are noticeable differences in cellular reception between the iPhone XS models and the iPhone 8 and iPhone X, with a 15-page thread suggesting this is a widespread problem that quite a few people are noticing. As described by MacRumors reader onepoint:Users are noticing fewer bars and poorer signal on iPhone XS and XS Max compared to devices like the iPhone 8 and iPhone X, especially in areas where signal is weak. Many of the complaints come from Verizon users, suggesting the issue could potentially be carrier specific. Multiple AT&T users, for example, have said the signal is the same or better, while Verizon users are seeing signal issues.

Some iPhone XS owners have theorized that the issue is related to Qualcomm vs. Intel modems. The new iPhone XS and XS Max are using Intel modems, while older devices used a mix of Qualcomm and Intel modems. AT&T iPhone 8 and iPhone X models used Intel modems previously, while Verizon iPhones had Qualcomm modems. As explained by MacRumors reader radiologyman:Some AT&T and T-Mobile users are, however, complaining of connectivity problems too, while others have noticed better signal, leading to a confusing mix of user reports.

It's not clear if modem differences are causing the perceived connectivity issues that iPhone XS and XS Max owners are noticing or if there is a genuine bug with the new devices, but in the days following a new iPhone release, there are often carrier updates that can solve connectivity problems.

Given the confusing mix of information coming from users on the forums, the LTE connectivity problems may be related to software and could be fixed through the aforementioned carrier update or a software update from Apple, but we'll have to wait for more information to figure out exactly what's going on.

In addition to the LTE problems, there appears to be a separate issue with Wi-Fi. On the MacRumors forums, users began noticing slower Wi-Fi speeds on iPhone XS models compared to other Apple devices, which readers quickly deduced was a 2.4GHz vs. 5GHz Wi-Fi issue.

It appears that the iPhone XS and XS Max are preferring 2.4GHz networks over 5GHz networks when connecting to routers that use the same SSID for both the 2.4 and 5GHz bands. From MacRumors reader playtillyadrop:The majority of people experiencing slower speeds found that their iPhone XS models were indeed connected to the 2.4GHz network rather than the 5GHz network. In our own testing, we found that when comparing an iPhone XS Max and an iPhone X, the iPhone XS Max connected to the 2.4GHz network while the iPhone X connected to the 5GHz network.

With routers that do not have separate SSIDs for the two bands, it can be difficult to tell which you're connected to, leading to perceived slower connection speeds.

This is clearly a bug that needs to be addressed by Apple through an update to make the iPhone XS models prefer the faster 5GHz network to the 2.4GHz network, but in the meantime, providing separate SSIDs for the 2.4 and 5GHz bands can allow you to make sure your iPhone is connected to the 5GHz band at all times.

Some users have also had luck with resetting their network settings and/or forgetting their Wi-Fi network and reconnecting, but the iPhone XS models appear to default back to 2.4GHz often if not made to connect to the 5GHz network.

This connection issue appears to be at the root of most of the slow Wi-Fi complaints, but there have been a few other complaints of poor connection speeds when connected to a 5GHz network, so it's possible there's also something else going on.

We've contacted Apple to ask about both the Wi-Fi and LTE issues that customers are experiencing with the iPhone XS models and will let MacRumors readers know if we hear back.

Article Link: iPhone XS and XS Max Owners Complain of Wi-Fi and LTE Connectivity Issues
 
I find it a bit shocking that an Apple rep would make such a point blank ballsy statement like that. To come right out and say “It’s a software problem” is a bit of a liability if this turns out to have anything to do with hardware at all. I hope he is right since he was so confident in saying that.
The “ I haven’t heard of that “ wasn’t going to work.
 
Apple is getting into a really bad habit of releasing hardware with issues. They need to step up their testing. I won’t purchase any new hardware from Apple until it has been out for a few months.

I think non-emotional empirical evidence shows Apple's rate of hardware issues has been about the same as it ever was. It's just today Apple is (1) more popular so headlines about issues are easy clickbait and (2) it's easier for users to complain about issues publicly on social media.

I'm other words, we hear and read about the issues more, so we think the rate of issues has gone up. Actually, only the rate of hearing and reading about issues has gone up.

That said I agree with your rule, applied to ALL companies: I won't purchase any new hardware from anyone until it has been out for a few months.
 



Apple's iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max launched last Friday, and shortly after, some customers who purchased one of the new devices started noticing an issue with LTE and Wi-Fi speeds and connectivity.

According to multiple threads on the MacRumors forums, iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max users are experiencing connectivity problems with Wi-Fi and LTE on the two new iPhones when compared to other, older Apple devices.

handsoniphonexsmax-800x450.jpg

Multiple users have said that there are noticeable differences in cellular reception between the iPhone XS models and the iPhone 8 and iPhone X, with a 15-page thread suggesting this is a widespread problem that quite a few people are noticing. As described by MacRumors reader onepoint:Users are noticing fewer bars and poorer signal on iPhone XS and XS Max compared to devices like the iPhone 8 and iPhone X, especially in areas where signal is weak. Many of the complaints come from Verizon users, suggesting the issue could potentially be carrier specific. Multiple AT&T users, for example, have said the signal is the same or better, while Verizon users are seeing signal issues.

Some iPhone XS owners have theorized that the issue is related to Qualcomm vs. Intel modems. The new iPhone XS and XS Max are using Intel modems, while older devices used a mix of Qualcomm and Intel modems. AT&T iPhone 8 and iPhone X models used Intel modems previously, while Verizon iPhones had Qualcomm modems. As explained by MacRumors reader radiologyman:Some AT&T and T-Mobile users are, however, complaining of connectivity problems too, while others have noticed better signal, leading to a confusing mix of user reports.

It's not clear if modem differences are causing the perceived connectivity issues that iPhone XS and XS Max owners are noticing or if there is a genuine bug with the new devices, but in the days following a new iPhone release, there are often carrier updates that can solve connectivity problems.

Given the confusing mix of information coming from users on the forums, the LTE connectivity problems may be related to software and could be fixed through the aforementioned carrier update or a software update from Apple, but we'll have to wait for more information to figure out exactly what's going on.

In addition to the LTE problems, there appears to be a separate issue with Wi-Fi. On the MacRumors forums, users began noticing slower Wi-Fi speeds on iPhone XS models compared to other Apple devices, which readers quickly deduced was a 2.4GHz vs. 5GHz Wi-Fi issue.

It appears that the iPhone XS and XS Max are preferring 2.4GHz networks over 5GHz networks when connecting to routers that use the same SSID for both the 2.4 and 5GHz bands. From MacRumors reader playtillyadrop:The majority of people experiencing slower speeds found that their iPhone XS models were indeed connected to the 2.4GHz network rather than the 5GHz network. In our own testing, we found that when comparing an iPhone XS Max and an iPhone X, the iPhone XS Max connected to the 2.4GHz network while the iPhone X connected to the 5GHz network.

With routers that do not have separate SSIDs for the two bands, it can be difficult to tell which you're connected to, leading to perceived slower connection speeds.

This is clearly a bug that needs to be addressed by Apple through an update to make the iPhone XS models prefer the faster 5GHz network to the 2.4GHz network, but in the meantime, providing separate SSIDs for the 2.4 and 5GHz bands can allow you to make sure your iPhone is connected to the 5GHz band at all times.

Some users have also had luck with resetting their network settings and/or forgetting their Wi-Fi network and reconnecting, but the iPhone XS models appear to default back to 2.4GHz often if not made to connect to the 5GHz network.

This connection issue appears to be at the root of most of the slow Wi-Fi complaints, but there have been a few other complaints of poor connection speeds when connected to a 5GHz network, so it's possible there's also something else going on.

We've contacted Apple to ask about both the Wi-Fi and LTE issues that customers are experiencing with the iPhone XS models and will let MacRumors readers know if we hear back.

Article Link: iPhone XS and XS Max Owners Complain of Wi-Fi and LTE Connectivity Issues
 
I am getting 150 Mbps on an Ookla speed test on my old iPad. I am getting 19.6 Mbps on my iPhone Xs. They're both within 3 feet of my Apple Time Capsule. This is very disconcerting. My iTunes movies are taking an hour to download to the iPhone. Not good at all, not good at all. At least it takes good pictures.
 
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I am getting 150 Mbps on an Ookla speed test on my old iPad. I am getting 19.6 Mbps on my iPhone Xs. They're both within 3 feet of my Apple Time Capsule. This is very disconcerting. My iTunes movies are taking an hour to download to the iPhone. Not good at all, not good at all. At least it takes good pictures.
Report this to Apple.
 
Moving from an iPhone 7 Plus to the new iPhone XS Max has had me second guessing on a full return. So again last night my WiFi connection on screen is bouncing all over the place and now to add to it, I compared my friends iPhone 8 Plus today (September 25, 2018) and my MAX next to each other using Speedtest on AT&T network and it‘s clear there is an issue with the antennas in this and/or other new iPhone XS Max phones. Additionally the blue screen shift happens almost instantly under any slight tilt off of being straight on...yea yea I know Apple advises this is an issue on their site but just a slight movement, come on! I advise anyone looking to upgrade to do your own research and compare in store iPhones and friends iPhones before a decision is made. There is an issue with Apple using Intel (My opinion) and anyone who owns a laptop with Intel wireless chips can agree that Intel is not supreme in modern modem tech. I have been an iPhone user for many years now and these issues have never been a problem before...at least not with my iPhone 7 Plus (SIM-Free model) which did have Qualcomm tech. I don't know if this is an antenna (hardware) issue, an Intel Modem issue, or some sort of software issue but it's not looking good! Please investigate these issues Apple that are all over social media before you have a flurry on your hands with another antenna gate and take bad criticism like google took on the Pixel XL for their screen issues!
Images attached while using AT&T network with iPhone 8 Plus vs iPhone XS Max utilizing Speedtest!
 

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Moving from an iPhone 7 Plus to the new iPhone XS Max has had me second guessing on a full return. So again last night my WiFi connection on screen is bouncing all over the place and now to add to it, I compared my friends iPhone 8 Plus today (September 25, 2018) and my MAX next to each other using Speedtest on AT&T network and it‘s clear there is an issue with the antennas in this and/or other new iPhone XS Max phones. Additionally the blue screen shift happens almost instantly under any slight tilt off of being straight on...yea yea I know Apple advises this is an issue on their site but just a slight movement, come on! I advise anyone looking to upgrade to do your own research and compare in store iPhones and friends iPhones before a decision is made. There is an issue with Apple using Intel (My opinion) and anyone who owns a laptop with Intel wireless chips can agree that Intel is not supreme in modern modem tech. I have been an iPhone user for many years now and these issues have never been a problem before...at least not with my iPhone 7 Plus (SIM-Free model) which did have Qualcomm tech. I don't know if this is an antenna (hardware) issue, an Intel Modem issue, or some sort of software issue but it's not looking good! Please investigate these issues Apple that are all over social media before you have a flurry on your hands with another antenna gate and take bad criticism like google took on the Pixel XL for their screen issues!
Images attached while using AT&T network with iPhone 8 Plus vs iPhone XS Max utilizing Speedtest!
I hope you too take the time to write all of this to Apple. You do realize that you can email federighi@apple.com directly with everything you just said here and there’s a strong likelihood you’ll get a response.
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Pretty lousy on AT&T Xs Max.
 
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UPDATE: after having My Xs since 21st I am starting to have problems with my
WIFI failing both 2.4 and 5 ghz when i am out side still works in house and bars look same but fluctuate a lot so outside WIFI is worse.
Since I also have only 1 sometimes two cell bars those seem to be worse today as I had to use out side with WIFI not working there today (even with 3-4 wifi bars) like it did earlier in weekend. The weak cell was also failing to connect in app even with 1-2 bars of cell indicated as I turned off the wifi. Looks Like I am joining the 40% with problems. In strong cell areas I am getting better results so the marginal cell is now a problem it seems and it was not earlier
 
I am getting 150 Mbps on an Ookla speed test on my old iPad. I am getting 19.6 Mbps on my iPhone Xs. They're both within 3 feet of my Apple Time Capsule. This is very disconcerting. My iTunes movies are taking an hour to download to the iPhone. Not good at all, not good at all. At least it takes good pictures.

I just tested my WiFi speed using Ookla. Average download speed over three tests using same server:

iPhone 6 Plus: 108
iPhone XS Max: 111

ISP is Mediacom Cable 100 Mbit service.

My XS Max stays on my 5 GHz network. Does not drop back to my 2.4 GHz network even though I have configured the same SSID for both.

Netgear Orbi Router and Satellite.
 
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UPDATE: after having My Xs since 21st I am starting to have problems with my
WIFI failing both 2.4 and 5 ghz when i am out side still works in house and bars look same but fluctuate a lot so outside WIFI is worse.
Since I also have only 1 sometimes two cell bars those seem to be worse today as I had to use out side with WIFI not working there today (even with 3-4 wifi bars) like it did earlier in weekend. The weak cell was also failing to connect in app even with 1-2 bars of cell indicated as I turned off the wifi. Looks Like I am joining the 40% with problems. In strong cell areas I am getting better results so the marginal cell is now a problem it seems and it was not earlier
Welcome to the unhappy family. Please report your findings to an Apple senior advisor.
 
Report Report Report.

Hold the flames to their feet so we get some kind of fix soon.
I second this. If we have time to bitch and moan here we have the equal time to report to Apple. And don’t just speak to a tier one tech. Ask to speak to a senior advisor as they have more of a direct line to engineering. Not only that but report it through as many different channels as you can. Use the feedback form, send email and call.
 
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I am connected to my home wifi and the connection drops a lot. Even though it shows it is connected, I will try to load speed test, web browser and it will say I am offline. My iPhone X works just fine. My iPhone XS Max is the one having the issues. I am going to erase everything and setup as new and see if that helps. Very frustrating
 
Lawsuit, anyone? You know it’s going to happen. Not by me. I returned my Max and I’m on my X... which suddenly looks real sexy again.

Also, what about that DSDS?! LOL! How about getting a SINGLE network working first.

Has Apple even responded anywhere, yet? Anyone know?
 
This doesn't address the WiFi or signal strength, but discovered a throttling issue when running speed tests. I have XS Max, SIM Free, 256; wife has XS, SIM Free, 64. Both running on AT&T (22GB throttling limit). I'm at about 28GB for month, she's at 18.

Both phones seem to be running slow (we live in rural midwest). Tried DFU restore on mine with downloaded ispw file. Didn't help anything. When running speedtest side by side, hers was constantly faster by 30-40%. Then swapped SIM cards (my SIM in her phone & vice versa). Suddenly my phone ran 30-40% faster on Ookla Speedtest. After swapping SIMs again, my phone slowed back down and is trailing hers. Sigh...back to setting my phone back up.

I think both phones are seeing speed decreases over our previous ones (7+ and 8), but throttling appears to be affecting mine :(
 
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