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The new phones look cool in pics and I'm thinking of an XR.

But come October and I actually see one in person, I know it's gonna be tough for me to give up my small, light SE, once I am actually able to hold one.

It's funny -- the issue is actually getting media attention:
https://nypost.com/2018/09/14/apples-bigger-screen-iphones-are-slammed-for-being-sexist/amp/
20 most popular denim brands in the United States and found that 60 percent of women’s jeans can’t fit an iPhone X, which is 5.8 inches.
 
The new phones look cool in pics and I'm thinking of an XR.

But come October and I actually see one in person, I know it's gonna be tough for me to give up my small, light SE, once I am actually able to hold one.

It's funny -- the issue is actually getting media attention:
https://nypost.com/2018/09/14/apples-bigger-screen-iphones-are-slammed-for-being-sexist/amp/

I think that 60% of jeans manufacturers are sexists as they produce smaller pockets for women.... :rolleyes:
 
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The drop of fingerID and 3D touch kills the XR option for me. 3D touch is very useful and I don't want to be forced to use faceID.

They could have easily placed the fingerID on the back. Now you choose the option you want to use.
 
“People will notice you have the best iPhone”

I’m going to be upgrading to an XR from a 6 plus. I don’t plan on using augmented reality and the single lens camera on the xr is fine for me i don't really take many photos at all and dont need the optical zoom. I also just think a single lens looks better. My 6 plus doesn’t have 3d touch so I won’t miss it and the people i know with 3d touch capable phones barely use it. The screen is lower ppi than my 6 plus but i dont really use my phone for watching 1080p films or hi res photos etc, its still the same ppi as an iPhone 8 etc which looks absolutely fine for me. on the other hand, I get a massive performance upgrade, massive battery upgrade, and as a day to day workhorse it will be a complete beast.

I look at it this way. If I upgraded to an iphone XR first, would I then consider swapping to an XS Max for an extra 350 just to get a telescopic lens, better screen, gigabit ethernet and 3d touch? No way.

That depends on how long you're going to keep the phone. Since you still have a 6 Plus that tells me you keep a phone a long time. Over a few years that $350 isn't a lot of money to have a phone with all of those extra features, plus a better build quality. You'd be much better off to go with the XS Max if you're keeping this phone long term. That's a long time to be lacking on some really nice features.
 
The drop of fingerID and 3D touch kills the XR option for me. 3D touch is very useful and I don't want to be forced to use faceID.

They could have easily placed the fingerID on the back. Now you choose the option you want to use.

Use a passcode.
 
And sorry, but the Pixel 2 camera wasn't even consistently better tan the iPhone X camera. It has strengths and weaknesses.

His review is totally subjective, "But compared to the Pixel 2, the XS doesn't really do it for me."

Great facts and measurables!

Subjective? I thought he mentioned in the review that images in less than optimal lighting conditions were consistently sharper?
 
Over a few years that $350 isn't a lot of money to have a phone with all of those extra features, plus a better build quality. You'd be much better off . . .

Investing that $350 and remaining outside the rat race that is upgrading your phone every year.

:cool:
 



iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max reviews have hit the web, three days before the smartphones are released in stores.

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2018 is what is known as a "S" year--hence the XS branding--in which Apple retains the same physical design of the iPhone, for the most part, and instead focuses on internal improvements to the display, camera, performance, and so forth. Previous examples include the iPhone 4s, iPhone 5s, and iPhone 6s series.

Not only that, but Apple said last year's iPhone X set the standard for the next decade of the smartphone, with its premium design and nearly edge-to-edge display, leaving the iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max with big shoes to fill.

All that considered, let's dive in and see how they stack up.

After nearly six days of trying out the devices, many media outlets agree that the iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max are "evolutionary, not revolutionary," as Wired's Lauren Goode put it. TechCrunch's Matthew Panzarino went as far as labeling the smaller-sized iPhone XS as "one of Apple's most 'S' models ever."


That's not necessarily a bad thing. As in many "S" years, if you already own the previous-year's device--in this case the iPhone X--Panzarino said there are only "about a half-dozen definitive improvements" in the iPhone XS. But, for customers upgrading from an older iPhone, he said they'll be in for "a huge win."In terms of specific features, The Verge's Nilay Patel has good impressions about Face ID, the rear camera, performance, battery life, and more. As he reminds readers, the only differences with the iPhone XS Max versus the smaller iPhone XS are its larger 6.5-inch display and longer battery life.


Patel on Face ID:On the rear camera:performance:Battery life:If you are a diehard Apple fan who can't wait to get your hands on the latest and greatest iPhone, you're probably going to choose the iPhone XS, or specifically the iPhone XS Max, regardless. For others, it may be best to wait until Friday, October 19, when the lower-priced iPhone XR becomes available to order.

iPhone XR is often described as the iPhone X for the rest of us. While reviews of the device are not out today, we know it has a nearly edge-to-edge display, Face ID, glass casing, wireless charging, and many other advantages of the iPhone XS, including new camera features such as Depth Control and Smart HDR.

CNET's Scott Stein:The Wall Street Journal's Joanna Stern:Many other publications have shared iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max reviews that are worth a read. We've rounded up links below.
The New York Times
Mashable
USA Today
CNBC
TechRadar
Tom's Guide
The Telegraph
iNews
Pocket-lint

iPhone and iPhone XS will go on sale, and begin arriving to customers, this Friday. For those who decide to wait for the iPhone XR, reviews of that device will likely hit the web a few days before its October 26 release date.

Article Link: iPhone XS and XS Max Reviews: Not Dramatically Better Than iPhone X, Consider Waiting for iPhone XR
 
Huh? Apple will put everything under the display.

This is definitely not as easy as you think it is.

I don't think it's that easy, if it was, they would have done it already.

I agree with you that it won't be easy. However, your statement that if it was that easy, they would have done it already is definitely the wrong way to think about it. Literally every technology that we are currently using, today, was not possible at one time. However, these same technologies are by definition, that easy now, because Apple and other companies make and sell millions of them per year. Progress always marches forward. The iPhone X was not possible just one year before they released it, but then it was possible. A notchless iPhone is not possible today, but it will be possible. I am of the belief that we are still 2-3 years away from that improvement, but it is coming.
 
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