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Well, its big enough phone now. You can draw with your finger in the Notes app (tap the pencil icon when composing a note)... That's about all the pencil would be good for now, just 1 frekin app..

I guess support could catch on but only from 3rd developers. Apple's out of the picture. That's how GOOD this would be *rolls eyes*
 
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How do they not mention the AI chips when discussing the A12 or the increase in RAM? I really enjoy S models because they increase the features which will make it worthwhile for years to come. They mentioned camera, but not the pixel size.

The AI chip with 8 cores instead of 2 is a big deal. If not today (which arguably it is as developers can train AI models now instead of just use models with Core ML or AI use with the camera), then definitely in the next few iterations. The X will be left behind when AI chips are needed and the XS will have those. I'm interested to open Photos and search for "beach" or "forrest" or other things (not "Cat" because it'll probably correctly return 0 results).
 
Consider waiting for the XR? There are so many people out there with iPhone 5/6/7, so the XS isn’t a good upgrade for them either? Lol.

The XS may not have a TON of differences from the X, but it’s still a great phone. It’s a worthy upgrade for many people. These reviews really should be speaking to people who hold onto their phones for YEARS.

And the XS Max is definitely worth it regardless if you have an X or earlier.

I just spit all over my monitor lol. I need the number of your dealer.
 
For now the iPhone 8 Plus was the best upgrade for me. While I know Face ID is reliable and all, I just still think Touch ID gives more flexibility in certain situations, at least for me, especially while traveling and in motion.

The fact that iPhone 8 sales eclipsed iPhone X sales last go round speaks volumes to me, but apparently Apple is not yet listening. We'll see what the shakeout is this time. The iPhone XR to me is the only option. Apple is hitting the same Moore's Law barrier with their chips as Intel. No drastic speed increase. I really feel like I'm not missing much this time.

My question is, will or is Apple still investigating Touch ID under glass?
 
My question is, will or is Apple still investigating Touch ID under glass?

It may be possible but I don't think it will come anytime soon. Next year seems like too early to me.
They pitched Face ID to be more secure, so why would they need to release TouchID on a phone again? Face ID isn't going away, so you'll end up having to ways of doing the same thing.
Don't get me wrong, I'd like that possibility, but I don't see Apple investing too much on that.
 
Just as expected. Huge upgrade for users of older phones, but for iPhone X owners quite marginal, with almost the same experience unless you want bigger screen. I’ll pass on this one.

Larger screen, stereo speakers, far better camera and processor...the best iPhone Apple has ever made. The only people poo-pooing this are X owners who can't upgrade lol
 
XS Max should’ve had Pencil support.

Wait another year. They need something new to promote iPhone Xs Max 2 or whatever they call it.
Apple is great at delaying features to help future sales. This year they gave us a bigger phone and dual sim, no need to add pencil support.
 
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Doesn’t mean they don’t happen. The question was “Who is going from X to XS?”
I do yearly upgrades and before 2014 it was sometimes 2-3 times a year. However I think that we are in the minority. Most people don't come on forums talk about their phones, they just used them. Personally I wouldn't go from the X to the Xs but will more than likely go from the X to the max. I'm just trying to convince myself why it's worth upgrading now, rather than waiting until my yearly upgrade in December.

There are some that will go from the X to the Xs though.
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Larger screen, stereo speakers, far better camera and processor...the best iPhone Apple has ever made. The only people poo-pooing this are X owners who can't upgrade lol
I can upgrade anytime I want. The only question is if I want to wait until December or do it now. I'm just not seeing any must have features apart from the larger screen. I'm sure once the phone comes out tomorrow and we see some real life pictures that will be enough to persuade me.
 
I didn’t upgrade my X to a Max for performance increases. I ordered it for the screen size. In my case that will make a huge improvement. And worth the upgrade alone. Especially for ppl like me with bad eyes that could use a bigger screen.
Just FYI: The XR has the same number of points as the XS, but they are slightly smaller (153 instead of 163 points per inch). So you have the exact same information on the screen, but the XS displays it a bit larger. And in higher quality because of the 3 vs 2 pixels per point. With bad eyes, the XS Max has a bigger advantage.
 
The 6 Plus came out 4 years ago. Isn't everything more expensive now compared to 2014?
No, the 7, 7+, 8 and 8+ are cheaper than they used to be, the XS is same price but better than the X.

iPhone 6 and 6+ started at $649 / $749 with 16 GB. Now the 7/7+ are $449/$549 with 32 GB, and the 8/8+ are $599/$699 with 64 GB. So you get a better phone for a lot less, or a much much better phone still for less.
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I'm confused... is the UI on the Max just blown up? or do you actually gain screen real estate. Looks like app rows are the same and icons are just bigger? Is that how it works across the board? everything is just bigger? ugh.
Compared to the XR, the UI on the Max is blown up by about 7% (that's why it is 6.5 instead of 6.1 inch), and the quality is higher (3 pixels per point instead of 2 pixels per point, which will make text sharper). Compared to the X or XS, you have more screen. More things visible.

Some apps like the Music app waste the extra space by drawing bigger album art.
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yeah, I'd never compromise on safety. I never ride without full gear, boots, gloves and a full face helmet so it's likely I'll never be able to unlock my phone without removing my helmet or typing in a huge passcode.
TouchID doesn't work with gloves either.
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Because it doesn't cost me any more money to upgrade every year, being that I'm on the Verizon iPhone Annual Upgrade plan. In fact, since I'm getting getting the Xr this year, my interest free monthly payment will actually be less than it was before.
With my plan, I could either upgrade, or just stop paying money for the phone. Upgrade doesn't mean your monthly cost goes up, it means you keep paying.
 
I do yearly upgrades and before 2014 it was sometimes 2-3 times a year. However I think that we are in the minority. Most people don't come on forums talk about their phones, they just used them. Personally I wouldn't go from the X to the Xs but will more than likely go from the X to the max. I'm just trying to convince myself why it's worth upgrading now, rather than waiting until my yearly upgrade in December.

There are some that will go from the X to the Xs though.
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I can upgrade anytime I want. The only question is if I want to wait until December or do it now. I'm just not seeing any must have features apart from the larger screen. I'm sure once the phone comes out tomorrow and we see some real life pictures that will be enough to persuade me.
To be more specific, I'm doing what you're doing--going from X to XS Max. If there were no 6.5" phone this year, I would have stuck with X. But I am on a Verizon trade in program where I can upgrade any time I want, so that always makes the decision easier.
 
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Wait another year. They need something new to promote iPhone Xs Max 2 or whatever they call it.
Apple is great at delaying features to help future sales. This year they gave us a bigger phone and dual sim, no need to add pencil support.

If Apple adds screen fingerprint ID, will it then remove the notch or is that here to stay. I was hoping that they would introduce the phone I just had to have when they released the X; but, then I saw the notch. So I decided it was not what I had hoped it would be. But even if they do remove the notch next year, is it going to cost us over $1,500 for a phone with adequate storage since they refuse to give us an sd slot. I feel as if I have been drawn into the Game of Fools. They give us less, we pay more. Phones should not define our lives. Apple certainly knew what they doing to their fan base when they offered the Xr in bright colors. As one poster said, hopefully, these people who purchase the Xr won't brag that they have a X phone. Phones are a tool, not an accessory. Not a status symbol. If they are, then we have a problem in America. These are phones, not degrees. They do not make us any sexier, any richer, any smarter, any more popular. That said, I will hold on to my phone until I can have one with a "full" screen, and an sd slot so that I don't have to pay a fortune for inadequate storage and I can own what I purchase instead of storing it on a cloud.
 
With my plan, I could either upgrade, or just stop paying money for the phone. Upgrade doesn't mean your monthly cost goes up, it means you keep paying.

What plan is this that you speak of, and please elaborate on it. I can just stop paying for the phone and not upgrade as well, after two years...because then the phone is paid for after 24 months. Also, if I upgraded to the Xs Max, my monthly cost would go up. Therefore, I don't understand your point here.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong - but where is the review of the new LTE modem? This looks to be one of the biggest speed increases since the release of LTE and people are just saying "the camera is the only improvement."

How did all of these reviewers miss this?
I searched for information on LTE Advance and Gigabit LTE where one article basically said it was the same. I think people who live in large cities will benefit but there is no information at this time as to when and where it will up and running. It is good to know that all of the new iPhones have the capability to reach these speeds once the carriers have it up and running across the country.
 
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