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iPhone XS Hands On: XS Max Feels 'Shockingly' Light, Killer Features are Depth of Field Slider in Photos and Dual SIM

Piggie said:
I was puzzled about the 1st demo of the depth of field example.
A lady, with her face sideways laying on her arm.

Her arm & hand were at the same distance from the camera as was her face, but they were out of focus.
Basically the iPhone was making a mistake. Keeping her face in focus whilst mistakenly thinking her hand/arm were further away and blurring them.

i'm surprised they used this as an example as I noticed this almost instantly as they were doing the demo.

Did no one else spot this?
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Yes, I noticed too. It is very interesting how they showed in the keynote all those "layers" - taking a dozen different takes on the image, and using the AI to combine it all. It's not like my Canon Digital Rebel haha! Photography is getting changed by these robot AI things - it's very interesting stuff! Not sure it is a problem - it probably will be beneficial for 95% of photo's. Mind blowing really.
 
The XR looks really good. Just wish Apple would’ve bumped up the screen resolution a bit. I’m definitely gonna get the 10S Max but I’m not gonna preorder. I’ll probsly upgrade sometime in November when my upgrade date comes up
 
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Rogifan said:
To me that’s just a cop out answer for those who claim they’re bored or underwhelmed but can’t articulate why. And they always use the year previous phone as their comparison point when the majority of people aren’t getting a new phone year. Bottom line, smartphones are mature products now. There aren’t going to be major ‘wow’ features/updates every year. For me the advancements Apple is making in its silicon is the big story that doesn’t get the attention it deserves.
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Agree, except that I'm not sure that smartphones are fully mature. I think the phone call, text, email, camera, access web part of the small portable personal computer is mature. I think the security (touch ID and face ID) is mature. So if that is all you use the phone for, then it is mature. But I suspect that these devices will morph into something even more crucial. But in a way you and I and others have not figured out yet. Certainly the innovations have been like a mature device. However, let me speculate that your smartphone is going to be your personal AI device in the near future. I'm not sure what that means. I'd have to move into the realm of SCI-FI to speculate. But if you allow me to go down that road, your smart phone might be like the personal advice giving computer that we see in sci-fi.

Anyway, that is pure speculation. Just tuck it away. And the difference is that Apple is going to make your AI unique to you, while Amazon and Google are going to make AI their AI which they track your usage of.

I do agree that the silicon is the real story. Benchmarks on the A12 are going to be insane.
 
craig1410 said:
Clearly you know nothing about Tim Cook or Apple. Financial success is a side-effect, not a driver of Apple success and has been that way for many years. If you actually do objective analysis you will find that products like the iMac Pro and MacBook Pro as in fact very competitively priced. You do need to pay attention to the details of the technology employed though. Perhaps you missed that bit.
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Really? Clearly the driver of Apple success has been the iPhone sinc eit brings almost 70% of revenues. That is why, Innovation in the computer line up has been left in the dark. Maybe you need to pay attention that the entire computer line up is outdated and overpriced.
Apple used to be in the lead of innovation. Now is barely catching up. You can clearly see that in the upgrade cycles.
iMac exterior design has not been updated in 10 years.
Mac Pro was a complete failure.
Macbook Pro 2016 and 18 are both a disaster. FYI Apple has a class action lawsuit due to the bad keyboard design. AKA as the soldered donglebook. All the interior components are soldered which make repairs more expensive and more prone to failure. Not to mention that you cannot connect your other Apple products (iphone, ipads). And they force a useless touchbar in order to justify a higher price.
Mac mini not updated in how many years??

I think the one missing a lot is you...
 
is this depth slider function exclusive to this generation of iPhones?
 
The Don Onez said:
So did they go with the taller and less width format?
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Where will it end?
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Steve121178 said:
Apple's implantation of dual SIM is better than two physical SIM trays. I get where you are coming from but embedded SIM is just a better solution than physical SIM cards.
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Well, um, respectfully - no.

Technically...perhaps. The debate isn't about the technology.

Practically, not when you have two or more physical sim cards from companies not offering eSIM's. You're talking like an engineer. I live in the real world, and travel the whole thing regularly in my job as an airline pilot. Apple has it backwards - if the majority of providers go to eSIM, drop the physical trays. That just isn't the current reality.

But I'm not fussed. Apple just saved me over a thousand bucks! :D
 
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NomadicTy said:
Anybody have any idea how whatsapp works when a phone have dual-sims?
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WhatsApp is not tied to a SIM, it's associated with a specific phone number. You do need to be able to receive an activation SMS on the number you register WA with, but after that changing SIM's is irrelevant. I regularly switch between a UK and US SIM's and it has no effect at all on WhatsApp.

Of course, I have to do the SIM swap manually as Apple offers no true dual-SIM capability! I have to admit I am beginning to look longingly at my colleagues Samsung phones, with their dual SIM's and headphone jacks and SD card expandability and lower prices. Would be irrational to not at least consider it. Probably one in my future, after over 30 years with Apple. :p
 
Peperino said:
Really? Clearly the driver of Apple success has been the iPhone sinc eit brings almost 70% of revenues. That is why, Innovation in the computer line up has been left in the dark. Maybe you need to pay attention that the entire computer line up is outdated and overpriced.
Apple used to be in the lead of innovation. Now is barely catching up. You can clearly see that in the upgrade cycles.
iMac exterior design has not been updated in 10 years.
Mac Pro was a complete failure.
Macbook Pro 2016 and 18 are both a disaster. FYI Apple has a class action lawsuit due to the bad keyboard design. AKA as the soldered donglebook. All the interior components are soldered which make repairs more expensive and more prone to failure. Not to mention that you cannot connect your other Apple products (iphone, ipads). And they force a useless touchbar in order to justify a higher price.
Mac mini not updated in how many years??

I think the one missing a lot is you...
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You’ve made your position clear. I won’t waste time educating you. Good day.
 
winglet69 said:
Well, um, respectfully - no.

Technically...perhaps. The debate isn't about the technology.

Practically, not when you have two or more physical sim cards from companies not offering eSIM's. You're talking like an engineer. I live in the real world, and travel the whole thing regularly in my job as an airline pilot. Apple has it backwards - if the majority of providers go to eSIM, drop the physical trays. That just isn't the current reality.

But I'm not fussed. Apple just saved me over a thousand bucks! :D
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Why not buy the model with dual physical SIMs?
 
PopinFRESH said:
eSIM is better, China carriers just refuse to allow it. If all carriers supported eSIM Apple might be able to actually roll out their (now old) MVNO system allowing the software to manage the carrier activation on the fly based on location, tower congestion, signal strength, etc.

I'm actually curious if the SIM-Free version will be able to activate service just using the eSIM rather than needing to use a nano-SIM for a "Primary" service. The wording on the site seems to indicate it will but it's not clear.

EDIT: Looks like it will support using just the eSIM for supported carriers once the update for enabling eSIM is live.
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Will esim work out of the box?
 
winglet69 said:
WhatsApp is not tied to a SIM, it's associated with a specific phone number. You do need to be able to receive an activation SMS on the number you register WA with, but after that changing SIM's is irrelevant. I regularly switch between a UK and US SIM's and it has no effect at all on WhatsApp.
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Thanks for the info, winglet. I was kind of hoping I can have two whatsapp accounts (2 separate numbers) on one phone, running at the same time. If that's not possible, maybe I can hold off buying this one and continue with my 2 physical phone routine. You may have saved me over a thousand dollars. :)
 
NomadicTy said:
Thanks for the info, winglet. I was kind of hoping I can have two whatsapp accounts (2 separate numbers) on one phone, running at the same time. If that's not possible, maybe I can hold off buying this one and continue with my 2 physical phone routine. You may have saved me over a thousand dollars. :)
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Hi NomaidTy,

My pleasure. Unfortunately I think what you wish to do wouldn't be possible with any phone, because it would require two separate installations of WhatsApp, which isn't possible (possibly with a hacked/jailbroken device, I don't know).

I agree it would be nice if WhatsApp recognized that many people have more than one account and could build that functionality into their app.

Apologies for thread drift!
 
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