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Londoner1982

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What do you think?

I know video on and the mic on the iPhone is superior but what about general photos and selfies etc?
 

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noobinator

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LOL. Sorry your X may lose badly, but not XS.



READ: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-xs-max-v-note-9.2173818/page-3#post-27202635
[doublepost=1553196465][/doublepost]Selfie = Pixel 3.

Photos = depends on taste. XS has class-leading dynamic range. P3 has lots more contrast.....and class-leading Night Sight.

Video = XS by a long shot.

My X? I don't have an X. I used an XS and an XS max (and XR) and a Pixel 3 XL.

I, as many others, found the overall camera better on the Pixel 3 XL. Video is better on the iPhone but OP didn't ask about that.
 
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My X? I don't have an X. I used an XS and an XS max (and XR) and a Pixel 3 XL.

I, as many others, found the overall camera better on the Pixel 3 XL. Video is better on the iPhone but OP didn't ask about that.

Sorry, doom and gloom Pixel 3 pics (heavy handed contrast) is not everyone’s taste......as can be seen in those videos in the link i posted.

Heck, even DxO prefers XS......and they were paid by Google in 2016! :D
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fred98tj

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Best ?? Best ?? They’re all good. Stop worrying about little things. There is no such thing as “best” (what we’re talking about here).
Just go take photographs and be happy.
Most of you post to social media (which pretty much destroys the photos any due to massive compression) and/or view them on a tiny (relatively speaking) cell phone screen, so “best” just doesn’t apply.
Go take photographs and be happy. Quite worrying about meaningless things. All major phones are capable of taking “good” photos for the vast majority of people.
 

AustinIllini

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Your whole criteria is night sight? Do you know how night sight works? It’s not point and shoot, right? There is limited use.
I have owned a Pixel 3 XL and my wife has a Pixel 3. I know how night sight works and the fact is iPhone simply doesn't come close.

It's just not close right now. All cameras are good in normal light (Pixel is.a bit better), but in low light iPhone is just so far behind.

It's clear your conclusion was drawn because you prefer iPhone and not based on any real metric.

Nice try though.
 
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I have owned a Pixel 3 XL and my wife has a Pixel 3. I know how night sight works and the fact is iPhone simply doesn't come close.

It's just not close right now. All cameras are good in normal light (Pixel is.a bit better), but in low light iPhone is just so far behind.

It's clear your conclusion was drawn because you prefer iPhone and not based on any real metric.

Nice try though.

The YouTube videos above are wrong? Clearly, your opinion is just that. Youtubers, including some well-known, clearly disagrees with you.

Night Sight requires that you hold still for at least 5 seconds. No motion in the picture. It is not a mode that you can use routinely. But you know that, right? LOL

Take out Night Sight, Pixel 3 low light is good, but not really any better than other flagships, including XS.

And if you understand Smart HDR, then you know that is basically a shortened high speed version of Night Sight. It is just the matter of Apple massaging it for night pictures.

And during daylight, Pixel 3 is dark and gloomy due to extra heavy contrast applied. But you know all of this, right?

Real metric for me...is the overwhelming Youtube videos supporting what i am saying. And if you are into DxO, then yeah, that too.

Nice try though. (And sorry that your iPhone X is not living up to its promise...been there, done that....the XS camera is a much different animal.)
 

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The YouTube videos above are wrong? Clearly, your opinion is just that. Youtubers, including some well-known, clearly disagrees with you.

Night Sight requires that you hold still for at least 5 seconds. No motion in the picture. It is not a mode that you can use routinely. But you know that, right? LOL

Take out Night Sight, Pixel 3 low light is good, but not really any better than other flagships, including XS.

And if you understand Smart HDR, then you know that is basically a shortened high speed version of Night Sight. It is just the matter of Apple massaging it for night pictures.

And during daylight, Pixel 3 is dark and gloomy due to extra heavy contrast applied. But you know all of this, right?

Real metric for me...is the overwhelming Youtube videos supporting what i am saying. And if you are into DxO, then yeah, that too.

Nice try though. (And sorry that your iPhone X is not living up to its promise...been there, done that....the XS camera is a much different animal.)

So in order to have the phones match, you have to take out the one camera’s most innovative feature. I rest my case.

Pixel 3. Period.
 
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So in order to have the phones match, you have to take out the one camera’s most innovative feature. I rest my case.

Pixel 3. Period.

Who’s taking it out? Night sight is of limited use. But you knew that, right? Lol

Xs. Period. Nice try though
 

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This thread has taught me that arguing with someone whose mind is made up is pointless.
The problem is people believe him. It's not a matter of me being convinced, but this guy is going to make someone blow $1200 on the "best camera phone" when in reality he can save quite a bit of money and get a better camera.

And I am an iPhone user at the moment. I don't make any bones about the truth: iPhone XS is a try-hard, good not great camera which washes out pictures in light and has no night sight type feature. Facts are facts.
 
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The problem is people believe him. It's not a matter of me being convinced, but this guy is going to make someone blow $1200 on the "best camera phone" when in reality he can save quite a bit of money and get a better camera.

And I am an iPhone user at the moment. I don't make any bones about the truth: iPhone XS is a try-hard, good not great camera which washes out pictures in light and has no night sight type feature. Facts are facts.

No need for me to do anything. You tubers, DxO, etc say things much better than me.

Sorry if that hurts your train of thought.

But you’re right. Facts are facts. See above videos. DxO.

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This thread has taught me that arguing with someone whose mind is made up is pointless.

And your mind is not made up? Lol
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A "limited use" iPhone is incapable of

But the rest of camera capability outside of limited use Night Sight favors XS.
 

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instead of having these debates over and over again, i think people should go and learn how to take better photos. not complicated manual shots, just better composition
 
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No need for me to do anything. You tubers, DxO, etc say things much better than me.

Sorry if that hurts your train of thought.
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And your mind is not made up? Lol
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But the rest of camera capability outside of limited use Night Sight favors XS.

You said in one of your first posts to me that pixel wins on selfies and ties for regular shots. So how is that a win for the iPhone?
 
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instead of having these debates over and over again, i think people should go and learn how to take better photos. not complicated manual shots, just better composition
Because we all need to have justification on who has the longer e-pxxxs, no matter what. :)
 
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