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Out of all the complaints about the X, this is the dumbest I've seen. And this is coming from someone who isn't a fan of the X. Sorry an increase of 0.6 mm is nearly imperceptible. Obviously thickness is going to change slightly from year to year, sometimes bigger, sometimes smaller.
 
You do realize Jobs didn’t build the phones himself right? It’s been Jony all 10 years as far as aesthetics are concerned.

Your statement is such a catch-all and oversimplification to the point where it's revisionist. Steve Jobs "built the phone himself" in the sense that he was the visionary and person who would direct the design and development of pretty much all of Apple's technologies.

It's now fairly well known... he sat in the design rooms and went through the styrofoam prototypes of new designs weekly for Apple's products like iPod, iPhone, etc. He would set aside ones he didn't like, and pick one that he liked and the design team (including Ive) would move in that direction.

Steve's Levi's jeans were what shaped the iPod and iPhone: they had to fit in his front jeans pocket comfortably.

Steve also pulled the plug on the tablet (they were working on the iPad prior to the iPhone) and had the idea to make a multi-touch phone. He hated his cell phone and wanted to reinvent it, which is what they did. Steve is the reason we have the iPhone.

Steve also stated in an interview that Apple was basically working on 2-3 generations of phones ahead of time. The design we see of the iPhone really has not changed since iPhone 6, which came out in 2014. Jobs passed away in 2011. However, the design of the iPhone 6 could very well have been something already in play in Apple's labs when Steve was still around.

When we look at the iPhone 8, it's basically the exact same design as the iPhone 6, which really speaks volumes about Apple's ability to innovate. Namely, that it continues to recycle the same design over and over, which isn't always a good thing.

When we look at the Apple TV, Cook ended up utilizing a new UI for the Apple TV which was one that Jobs threw in the trash can, and I could see why Jobs didn't like it.

Apple is struggling to design new stuff. We see it with UI updates in iOS (they change the UI elements even on the phone in incremental updates to iOS, which is pretty crazy). We see it in the Apple TV remote: it's a terrible design.

No idea where Apple goes from here, but something has to give.
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Out of all the complaints about the X, this is the dumbest I've seen. And this is coming from someone who isn't a fan of the X. Sorry an increase of 0.6 mm is nearly imperceptible. Obviously thickness is going to change slightly from year to year, sometimes bigger, sometimes smaller.

It is not imperceptible and you don't have to be sorry.
 

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Is thick LOL , I can see the gap without zooming your pic but still acceptable for my usage .

Of course you can see the gap, sub-mm lengths are still macroscopic lengths... The point was to show how small it is, not that's its invisible to the naked eye. If you were blindfolded and handed an iPhone 6 and an iPhone X you wouldn't be able to tell them apart, barring length, width, and textural cues.
 
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Of course you can see the gap, sub-mm lengths are still macroscopic lengths... The point was to show how small it is, not that's its invisible to the naked eye. If you were blindfolded and handed an iPhone 6 and an iPhone X you wouldn't be able to tell them apart, barring length, width, and textural cues.

Why are you arguing?

I can tell you this. The iPhone 6s Plus is thicker than the iPhone 6 Plus (7.3 mm vs. 7.1 mm), and I went into the store and noticed it right away. You think in your opinion that people don't notice. But that is based on your own personal opinion which you may not even believe, you may just like to argue.

I mentioned earlier that small changes can make a more material difference to a User who has to handle and hold these devices sometimes for longer periods of time. The finger joints have to hold and stabilize the object, and those joints are not that strong. They tire fast.

I am not saying that a 7.7 mm smartphone is a fail, I am saying that based on my experience with this, it will be noticeable to people, some of which will be adversely affected by it. The saving grace though on the iPhone X is that it's about as light as my iPhone 6 Plus coming in at 174 grams. The iPhone 8 Plus is a beast at 202 grams. That weight will absolutely be noticeable.
 
I don't mind this at all. In fact I want it to be even thicker than 7.6 so they can even out that fugly camera bump and give us a larger battery.

I was going to type EXACTLY this. I personally don't mind a thicker phone if it's going to get rid of that pill shaped camera protrusion and substantially extend the battery life. I personally LOVED the way the 3GS felt in the hand and that was 12.3 mm, so Apple could go up quite a bit and it'd still be a very reasonable size for a mobile phone.
 
Why are you arguing?

I can tell you this. The iPhone 6s Plus is thicker than the iPhone 6 Plus (7.3 mm vs. 7.1 mm), and I went into the store and noticed it right away. You think in your opinion that people don't notice. But that is based on your own personal opinion which you may not even believe, you may just like to argue.

I mentioned earlier that small changes can make a more material difference to a User who has to handle and hold these devices sometimes for longer periods of time. The finger joints have to hold and stabilize the object, and those joints are not that strong. They tire fast.

I am not saying that a 7.7 mm smartphone is a fail, I am saying that based on my experience with this, it will be noticeable to people, some of which will be adversely affected by it. The saving grace though on the iPhone X is that it's about as light as my iPhone 6 Plus coming in at 174 grams. The iPhone 8 Plus is a beast at 202 grams. That weight will absolutely be noticeable.

You were likely noticing the difference in weight which is almost 3/4 of an oz. That very well could be perceived by many people. You did not however feel a difference of 0.2 mm in thickness. Unless you happen to have calipers for hands that is.

Just for reference, this would be the equivalent of you telling me you can feel the difference between a stack of paper 71 pages thick and 73 pages thick.
 
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You were likely noticing the difference in weight which is almost 3/4 of an oz. That very well could be perceived by many people. You did not however feel a difference of 0.2 mm in thickness. Unless you happen to have calipers for hands that is.

Just for reference, this would be the equivalent of you telling me you can feel the difference between a stack of paper 71 pages thick and 73 pages thick.

Yes, I did notice a difference.
 
People keep bringing up Steve Jobs as some perfect being. Steve Jobs brought us the buttonless 3rd gen iPod Shuffle.
So there you go.

I think others need to leave Steve Jobs out of this. His name doesn't need to be brought in every situation that Apple does today, because it's a different company from when he was here. No necessarily in a bad way, but Apple is in a different direction and into different products.
 
I think others need to leave Steve Jobs out of this. His name doesn't need to be brought in every situation that Apple does today, because it's a different company from when he was here. No necessarily in a bad way, but Apple is in a different direction and into different products.
Although personally I think Apple still has the same vision as before, yes, people need to stop bringing Steve Jobs' name every time to make up an argument.
 
As others say, maybe that's a good thing. It's been a long time people have been asking for longer battery life instead of ultra slim phones. Maybe it's happening?
 
I know I'm getting one but it's gonna suck :( the 6+ was heavy and then the 6s+ made it even worse, finally with the 7+ we got a lighter phone. It's a first world issue but with my keys and my phone and a vaporizer, even little bit of weight matters, and the 6S+ caused my jeans to slip down so I'm sure the 8+ will be even worse. It's not a probably of fitting into pockets, it's the weight once it's in them.
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The batteries have gotten -smaller- this year. The extra weight is because of the glass.
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Yes but it seems like jobs was more willing to go along with Jony's design ideas even though it might not work perfectly (he went with form over function) like how they were both warned about the iPhone 4 design but pushed ahead because they liked how it looked, then dealt with the antenna issues a year later with the 4s. I'd be more willing to believe under jobs there would be more pressure for them to get it to work without a camera bump or notch. It seems now that Ive is still running the design, but people aren't pushing hard enough to make them work.

I don't know anything about this year. I'm just talking about in general I'd happily trade thickness (thinness?) for better battery life.

Right now I'm using the fugly Apple battery case for my 6s. It's fat, heavy and ugly, but still well worth it for the extra battery life.
 
I don't know anything about this year. I'm just talking about in general I'd happily trade thickness (thinness?) for better battery life.

Right now I'm using the fugly Apple battery case for my 6s. It's fat, heavy and ugly, but still well worth it for the extra battery life.

Ah I probably would too. I'm more upset about the weight than the thickness. My 7+ easily last me a day and half without a charger though so that's why I'm a little sad the 8+ Battery got smaller.
 
Ah I probably would too. I'm more upset about the weight than the thickness. My 7+ easily last me a day and half without a charger though so that's why I'm a little sad the 8+ Battery got smaller.

Really hoping that it really does last as long. But yeah, that bummed me out too. I'm a huge advocate of battery life. We'll see how it rates against my 6s+. I think my 6+ had a tiny bit better life than my 6s+ but my 6s+ is lag free, etc.. etc... Can't wait for the 8+ :)
 
Remember when iPhone 6 came it and we all complained about how thin and slippery it was? Now we're complaining about it being thicker, lol! I'm quite shocked that the X is thicker than the Plus models. I could tell it was too thick judging by the videos!
 
Not trying to get under your skin. But your default response to anyone that you disagree with (even when there is nothing to disagree over), is that they have committed a logical fallacy. You say it in every other post you make. You've accused me of logical fallacies when there are none.

In the past 24 hours, how many people have you accused of committing a logical fallacy simply because they are saying something you disagree with? This is the third by my count, and my coming across your posts is purely by happenstance.

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See, you love Apple products, and you can't take any criticism of them (even though this isn't really criticism). So when someone says anything remotely negative, you first start with "I don't care, as long as I like it...", and then you accuse the person of committing a logical fallacy.

3 times in the past 24 hours is why I am calling you out. And in all three cases, none of your accusations have really made sense.

You're accusing OP of a logical fallacy he did not commit. You did it on your own.

OP made probably the most non-accusational, non-confrontational post. Just simply comparing thicknesses of the iPhones over the years. It takes a lot of insecurity to get worked up over that.

Really grates on me when people grab some phrase they have just heard and think they can fit in to every and any comment they are making. Do they think it makes them smarter? I can tell a mile off if its an organic reflection of their vocabulary or if its just new phrase/word/statement of the week used to talk down to others. People spouting nonsense about "Logical Fallacy" have no business turning up in an iPhone discussion where we all just relaxin, shooting the breeze, discussing the ins & outs of upcoming models. Then comes logical fallacy into the mix? Wth
 
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I wouldn't mode a double battery iPhone XX that could make it thru the entire day without a charge or a battery case.
 
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