iPhones with OLED and possible screen burn [MERGED]

[swinery]

The Macbook touchbar is also OLED iirc

One advantage of OLED is the black color is truly black because it is actually off, the black pixels are "off" as if the device wasn't being used iirc. This is useful for power saving and also allows for a more true black color. The new iPhone will have those "ears" so Apple may want to hide the ears during use with black filling them.

OLED makes sense for that. In fact if that is what they want to do with the ears there is no other option. LCD black isn't "true black" so you would see the ears.

As for burn in I think it is overstated. If the phone isn't on constantly it should be fine. I have multiple OLED devices and I have never seen burn in, I use a Galaxy s7 edge which is my main phone every day. Personally I doubt this will be a problem. It's only if the pixels don't change color for ages, like if you left an image paused on an OLED TV and didn't turn it off.

 

[chscag]

@penajmz

I was under the impression that Screen Burn is permanent and the only way to fix it was to change the screen to a new one. I have never heard of the procedure you mentioned. Do you have a link to those apps that can repair screen burn?

 

[alpi123]

Screen burn in (late) 2017 is almost fixed. And since we're talking about Apple, they won't use OLED if they weren't confident in its quality.

 

[thadoggfather]

The Macbook touchbar is also OLED iirc

One advantage of OLED is the black color is truly black because it is actually off, the black pixels are "off" as if the device wasn't being used iirc. This is useful for power saving and also allows for a more true black color. The new iPhone will have those "ears" so Apple may want to hide the ears during use with black around them.

OLED makes sense for that. In fact if that is what they want to do with the ears there is no other option.

As for burn in I think it is overstated. If the phone isn't on constantly it should be fine. I have multiple OLED devices and I have never seen burn in, I use a Galaxy s7 edge which is my main phone every day. Personally I doubt this will be a problem. It's only if the pixels don't change color for ages, like if you left an image paused on an OLED TV and didn't turn it off.

Correct

Blacks are as good as if portions of the screen were off, because they are. This is why Apple went with OLED for their watch— a seamlessness between the black glass and screen,

Organic Light Emitting Diode is where the pixels are self-illuminating; there is no separation of a panel of pixels and a backlight blasting through it so you can see what’s on that screen like traditional LED displays

It also results in pixel level granularity contrast. Sometimes images look like they’re flying off the screen because of this

OLED TVs really are the greatest thing ever (if you’re into movies/games/etc and can afford one, or find a good clearance deal on one)

I cant state how happy I am Apple is now incorporating OLEDs with iPhones I just wonder whether iPhone X is the one to jump in with or to wait it out a bit, for other reasons

 

[penajmz]

@penajmz

I was under the impression that Screen Burn is permanent and the only way to fix it was to change the screen to a new one. I have never heard of the procedure you mentioned. Do you have a link to those apps that can repair screen burn?

https://android.gadgethacks.com/how...laxy-s8-prevent-from-happening-again-0177379/

 

[Apple_Robert]

I am not worried about it. If it does happen while it is under warranty, I will get Apple to fix it.

 

[thadoggfather]

I am not worried about it. If it does happen while it is under warranty, I will get Apple to fix it.

Unless Apple’s warranty expressly doesn’t cover this, since its a common fault of OLED tech.



Honestly, I think that would be a wise decision on Apple’s part. Not one that would win people over, but I could see why they would.

Static images on a phone, its bound to happen

 

[Apple_Robert]

Unless Apple’s warranty expressly doesn’t cover this, since its a common fault of OLED tech.

True.

I haven't had a problem with my 50" tv, although my parents have. All I can do is use screen savers and have the display turn off after x amount of time like it does now.

 

[thadoggfather]

True.

I haven't had a problem with my 50" tv, although my parents have. All I can do is use screen savers and have the display turn off after x amount of time like it does now.

They were smart to forewarn people that Jet Black would scratch no other, because thats exactly what it did just by looking twice at it

Warnings of burn-in in fine print, are something I think would be a keen CYA-policy

 

[Apple_Robert]

They were smart to forewarn people that Jet Black would scratch no other, because thats exactly what it did just by looking twice at it

Warnings of burn-in in fine print, are something I think would be a keen CYA-policy

Yea, I can see that. Otherwise, people would be returning phones en masse. It doesn't take much for people around here to go a little nuts at the hint of one or two people have trouble (gate this, that, and the other, crap).

 

[thadoggfather]

Yea, I can see that. Otherwise, people would be returning phones en masse. It doesn't take much for people around here to go a little nuts at the hint of one or two people have trouble (gate this, that, and the other, crap).

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202580

And don’t forget this Knowledge Base article about how to ‘avoid image persistence’ (for those affected LG displays in MBP’s when that was a gate-thing)

 

[Jimmy James]

They're going to be so hot they'll catch on fire.

 

[Juan007]

Zero chance of burn-in, not even worth thinking twice about. If it did happen, Apple would replace your display free of charge (it won't happen).

 

[Apple_Robert]

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202580

And don’t forget this Knowledge Base article about how to ‘avoid image persistence’ (for those affected LG displays in MBP’s when that was a gate-thing)

I am following the advice of the article with my new iMac. Thanks for the link, though. I am sure it will help someone.

 

[macfacts]

.... The new iPhone will have those "ears" so Apple may want to hide the ears during use with black filling them.

OLED makes sense for that. In fact if that is what they want to do with the ears there is no other option. LCD black isn't "true black" so you would see the ears. ....

Apple can have those "ears" because they are using OLED. Those screens can be any shape and can bend. LCD can't do those things.

 

[I7guy]

With the price of these phones any imperfections at all in these OLED screens are going to magnified. At the alleged price people won’t stand for anything but perfection, and oled has worse imperfections than lcd.

 

[chscag]

https://android.gadgethacks.com/how...laxy-s8-prevent-from-happening-again-0177379/

Hey thanks for the link!

 

[44267547]

They were smart to forewarn people that Jet Black would scratch no other, because thats exactly what it did just by looking twice at it

If Apple had not warned consumers about the Jet black scratching, the backlash would have been severe regarding the scratching and or abrasions with the anodization process. Some consumers may have misconstrued their phone scratching for a defect. Naturally, Apple should warn consumers about those types of situations to avoid any conflict, by issuing a disclaimer.

 

[shayneox]

thanks for the links, some good info.

 

[golfnut1982]

Burn in is a drawback, but that display...But it seems to be an issue.
http://televisions.reviewed.com/fea...creen-burn-in-problems-causes-image-retention

 

[thadoggfather]

Burn in is a drawback, but that display...But it seems to be an issue.
http://televisions.reviewed.com/fea...creen-burn-in-problems-causes-image-retention

I live worry free with my LG OLED TV.

I don’t leave it paused on screen for days at a time,

Even if I were to game for like a solid 8 hours or something insane and unhealthy, it would be fine.,

Static logos broken apart with commercial breaks are fine too

Non-issue really.

There is temporary IR going from static boxes to a grey loading screen, kinda thing, but its temporary.

But a phone OLED screen, where status bar is going to be there 99% of the time, burn in WILL happen

Quote me in a few weeks, or days potentially, after the X is out.

 

[Mcmeowmers]

Screen burn in (late) 2017 is almost fixed. And since we're talking about Apple, they won't use OLED if they weren't confident in its quality.

I'm not so sure. My iPhone 5 (came with iOS 6) has burn in on the top top status bar. That was an LCD display. iOS changed the bar to be transparent so the burn in is less likely.

 

[jsmith189]

Off topic, sorta, but question. What about "shades" of black? Does it have to be #000000 for the "off" pixel to work?

 

[golfnut1982]

I live worry free with my LG OLED TV.

I don’t leave it paused on screen for days at a time,

Even if I were to game for like a solid 8 hours or something insane and unhealthy, it would be fine.,

Static logos broken apart with commercial breaks are fine too

Non-issue really.

There is temporary IR going from static boxes to a grey loading screen, kinda thing, but its temporary.

But a phone OLED screen, where status bar is going to be there 99% of the time, burn in WILL happen

Quote me in a few weeks, or days potentially, after the X is out.

So glad to hear this, because i want one of those TVs.

 

[Mcmeowmers]

Off topic, sorta, but question. What about "shades" of black? Does it have to be #000000 for the "off" pixel to work?

I'm purely guessing here - maybe a sliding scale of power consumption. Like a dimmer for a light.