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iPhoto 4.0.1

iPhoto does keep the original of each pic you import, whether it cam from a camera or not. Some choose to keep it, some choose to get rid of it with something like iPhoto Diet


eric_n_dfw said:
I got my first real tast of iPhoto this weeked and am bit put off by the fact that it doesn't keep an "original" copy of your picture. Before now, I've used it quite a bit for organizing images from Picture-CD's but I've always got a backup of the original on both the CD from the lab and, of course, the 35mm negative. But with digital, my original file gets sucked into iPhoto and changed every time I crop it or do anything else to it. Is there a way to make a copy inside of iPhoto so I can have albums of "originals" as well as modified images?

(BTW: Yes, I know I can tell iPhoto to not remove the images from my CF card and then I can copy them off to the HD and/or CD-R)

A friend showed me a Windows app that looks and feels exactly like iPhoto (from my limited exposure to it) and it does maintain a kind of "version control" type of library. Where the original is kept, along with all of the changes you make to the picture. Since CVS/RCS comes with OS X, I wonder if they could integrate it?
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Hope it fixes the annoying "error" pop up that I get every time i launch that says "error sharing iphoto library". Of courseyou're not sharing, I'm the only mac in the house now. I eventually just turned off sharing by default waiting for this silly little hiccup to get ironed out.

estevan2737 said:
Can anyone say what was improved in relation to the Rendevous photo sharing? I am hoping it is much much faster.
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Some_Big_Spoon said:
iPhoto does keep the original of each pic you import, whether it cam from a camera or not. Some choose to keep it, some choose to get rid of it with something like iPhoto Diet
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yep. you can always revert back to original with any changes you make with iPhoto (or iPhoto specified external photo editing app).
 
Some_Big_Spoon said:
There you have it folks, independant corroboration! :)
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i just wanted to give another heads up, that's all. you obviously know what you are talking about... ;)
 
Idea

Idea: Let's not turn this into a iLife '04 should they/shouldn't they debate and leave it with discussion on the update. Personally I'm very interested that they've pushed performance further however I'm more interested in how the thumbnails could have been improved. I'm guessing they don't scroll at low res then convert to high anymore, but I'll see after the update :)

eric_n_dfw said:
I got my first real tast of iPhoto this weeked and am bit put off by the fact that it doesn't keep an "original" copy of your picture. Before now, I've used it quite a bit for organizing images from Picture-CD's but I've always got a backup of the original on both the CD from the lab and, of course, the 35mm negative. But with digital, my original file gets sucked into iPhoto and changed every time I crop it or do anything else to it. Is there a way to make a copy inside of iPhoto so I can have albums of "originals" as well as modified images?
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I realise it's not the same, but iPhoto does keep the originial, open your photo for editing, mess it up a bit and then goto "Photos > Revert to Original". Obviously this doesn't completely address your question, and would like to add that I too would like either;
- An indication of which photos have been edited and which haven't (perhaps an icon in edit view?)
- An option to view the whole library as edited or un-edited.

As the photos are all in place, it wouldn't be too much of a change, especially the first option.

AppleMatt
 
Well, nothing feels new to be blunt. I only feel like I wanted 5 minutes updating all of those thumbnails.

Am I the only one that feels Apple "cheated" in a way to make iPhoto faster? When you scroll, the thumbnails become low-quality and blocky to make it speedy. I don't know. But it's alright. Whatever keeps the speed good, right?
 
bousozoku said:
Exactly!

[sarcasm]
It's terrible that a company would charge $49 for 5 better than average applications, especially when they're good values at that price. I believe Apple should start giving away everything--for free.
[/sarcasm]

I'm glad Apple is cotinuing to work on this highly-subsidised application and make it better than ever. It's one more reason that owning a Macintosh makes live easier, or at least, more enjoyable.
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Hm, I thought the whole idea was that we pay too much dosh for underpowered computers but are compensated by pretty design and the high quality, well intergrated, bundled software. I hope this whole paying thing isn't a trend.
I have iphoto, but it is annoyingly slow and I would have been chuffed with a free update.
 
Movies?

As most (all?) digital camera's these days come with some sort of movie support I would really like it if iPhoto would also import and archive movies. My pictures are all organized but my movie are a mess.
 
PRØBE said:
Hm, I thought the whole idea was that we pay too much dosh for underpowered computers but are compensated by pretty design and the high quality, well intergrated, bundled software. I hope this whole paying thing isn't a trend.
I have iphoto, but it is annoyingly slow and I would have been chuffed with a free update.
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No, that's not the "idea." Buy the computer you want. Then buy the software you want. Very simple.

elo
 
iPhoto retraction

Well, color me tickled! (I don't know what that means either :D)
I had not seen the "return to original" thingie. Rock on Apple!

Thanks for pointing it out, I'll look for it tonight when I get home.

BTW: That Windows software is at www.picasa.net. It's pretty sweet; a great solution for any of you Windoze users until you get a Mac! ;)


edit: Maybe I should read the manual: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=150214
 
eric_n_dfw said:
Well, color me tickled! (I don't know what that means either :D)
I had not seen the "return to original" thingie. Rock on Apple!

Thanks for pointing it out, I'll look for it tonight when I get home.
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Hold down the control key while viewing an edited image to see the original.
 
eric_n_dfw said:
I just joined the masses and bought a Canon Elph s400. I've been holding out for affordable Digital SLR's but think that Canon and Nikon still have a lot of margin room on their latest sub $1000 offerings. Maybe next year. (Plus Amazon has a pretty good price on this, "end of model year", camera)

I got my first real tast of iPhoto this weeked and am bit put off by the fact that it doesn't keep an "original" copy of your picture. Before now, I've used it quite a bit for organizing images from Picture-CD's but I've always got a backup of the original on both the CD from the lab and, of course, the 35mm negative. But with digital, my original file gets sucked into iPhoto and changed every time I crop it or do anything else to it. Is there a way to make a copy inside of iPhoto so I can have albums of "originals" as well as modified images?

Responding to your concern about retaining the 'original' -- You could use the 'Duplicate' option by highliting the interested photo in "Organize" and key Apple/Command-D. You can the crop/modify the duplicate copy-- retaining the original untouched.
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eric_n_dfw said:
I got my first real tast of iPhoto this weeked and am bit put off by the fact that it doesn't keep an "original" copy of your picture. Before now, I've used it quite a bit for organizing images from Picture-CD's but I've always got a backup of the original on both the CD from the lab and, of course, the 35mm negative. But with digital, my original file gets sucked into iPhoto and changed every time I crop it or do anything else to it. Is there a way to make a copy inside of iPhoto so I can have albums of "originals" as well as modified images?
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iPhoto always saves an original no matter how many times you modify or crop the photo.
Just go to the top tool bar in iPhoto and go to Photos / Revert to original.
 
reh said:
Hold down the control key while viewing an edited image to see the original.
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dang, that's sweet!!

i was about to mention that reverting to original is not un-doable... but this will definitely help! (it's just temporary, i.e. while holding down control, right?)
 
eric_n_dfw said:
...Is there a way to make a copy inside of iPhoto so I can have albums of "originals" as well as modified images?...
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To answer the question that you asked, that no one else has, yes, you can easily make copies of photos in iPhoto. Command-D duplicates the currently selected photo(s), providing you with copies, should you wish to make modifications but still have the original showing up in your library.
 
jxyama said:
dang, that's sweet!!

i was about to mention that reverting to original is not un-doable... but this will definitely help! (it's just temporary, i.e. while holding down control, right?)
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Yup, only temporary. I use it a lot to quickly flip back and forth to see if I like the iPhoto's "enhanced" version of the photo.
 
reh said:
Hold down the control key while viewing an edited image to see the original.
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Huh. Really? It's not working on my machine. Holding down the control key does nothing. If I click, it brings up a contextual menu, but still no showing of the original...
 
if you want to have an album with just the originals, you can either make an album and add all of these duplicates. or use iPhoto Library Manager and dump pictures from your digital cameras twice - once to "regular" iPhoto Library and one more time to "originals only" iPhoto Library.
 
reh said:
Yup, only temporary. I use it a lot to quickly flip back and forth to see if I like the iPhoto's "enhanced" version of the photo.
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Okay, now I got it. It only works for coloring changes. Enhance, Red-eye, BW, Sepia, etc. It does not work if you've cropped the image. That is to say, it'll show what things looked like after you cropped, but not before (i.e. if you change colors after cropping it'll show the difference, but not if you changed colors before cropping).

Nor will this really revert to the original any old time, either. Try changing an image to BW. Now hold down control. It works fine. Now go to another image and come back. Hold down control, and nothing happens...
 
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