iPhoto 4.0.1

[bnemesis]

Cool. I am starting to get my wife involved using iPhoto.
I love the interface, but have two gripes with the program in general.
1) iPhoto print service prices are double that of Ofoto (which is where the prints come from)

and

2) iPhoto cant deal with archived photos on removeable media like CDs or DVDRs. It would be sweet if it would create the thumbnail and keep the meta information for the image, allowing searching. But prompted for media when you wished to see the full image. Unless you had "enhanced" or cropped an image. Then a local copy would be acceptable.

Until then, I have to stick with my ancient copy of Extensis Portfolio (my version cant read exif info from digital camera photos )

 

[TorbX]

4000 pics on a PowerBook

Oh, man, how long is this going to take?

 

[GrannySmith_G5]

So, I come on to MacRumors, see the headline "Apple released iPhoto 4.0.1 today in your Software Update:" but then notice it already has 21 negative votes. Uh oh, I say to myself, I wonder what's wrong with it. I read through these posts, see no real complaints, and am now scratching my head. Why the negative votes?

Anyhow I'm updating now, hope it's good.

 

[phasetwo]

That's not true

... I got my first real tast of iPhoto this weeked and am bit put off by the fact that it doesn't keep an "original" copy of your picture. Before now, I've used it quite a bit for organizing images from Picture-CD's but I've always got a backup of the original on both the CD from the lab and, of course, the 35mm negative. But with digital, my original file gets sucked into iPhoto and changed every time I crop it or do anything else to it. Is there a way to make a copy inside of iPhoto so I can have albums of "originals" as well as modified images?....

I photo doesn't modify your originals! If you change a picture you can at anytime select "Revert to orginal" under the photo menu. Really where you you get this stuff?

 

[aftk2]

I read through these posts, see no real complaints, and am now scratching my head. Why the negative votes?

People are undoubtedly still irritated by the fact that iPhoto 4 has to be purchased through iLife, while the previous versions were free.

 

[TorbX]

People are undoubtedly still irritated by the fact that iPhoto 4 has to be purchased through iLife, while the previous versions were free.

A little off topic, but, umh, where do I vote?

EDIT: Forget it, I found it. How did I miss that??

 

[oingoboingo]

G5 versus PowerBook thumbnail update speeds

I just applied the 4.0.1 update on my 1GHz 12" PowerBook (768MB RAM) and my 1.6GHz G5 (1.25GB RAM). All my photos are from a Sony DSC-P31 2 megapixel camera (ie: 1600x1200 resolution). Updating 814 photos on the PowerBook took almost exactly 10 minutes (0.73 seconds per photo). Updating 993 photos from the same camera on the 1.6GHz G5 took almost exactly 5 minutes (0.3 seconds per photo). The 814 photos on the PowerBook are a full subset of those on the G5. Both systems are running OS X 10.3.3.

So, this incredibly unscientific benchmark makes the 1.6GHz G5 about 2.4 times faster than the 1GHz 12" PowerBook for the task up updating thumbnails in iPhoto 4.0.1. A fascinating benchmark!!!!

Scrolling through the thumbnail gallery seems smoother now at least. Which is good...there was so much room for performance improvement from iPhoto 2 it wasn't funny. Good to see Apple ironing out the performance problems.

 

[AppleMatt]

I did a very sad thing today.

Before the update installed (via SU) I quickly fired up iPhoto and took a few window-shots of the previews. After it installed I did a load more of exactly the same photos and...

...previews are definitely much much better. There's no "overly sharpness" to them anymore (think of repeatedly pressing "sharpen" in an image program and you're where the old thumbnails used to be) and also things such as diagonal lines are no longer jagged. Everything's nice and smooth

The only performance increase I've noticed is scrolling, however I haven't imported anything new yet.
Happy with this update

AppleMatt

 

[sososowhat]

"Organizational Enhancements"

So what are these "organizational enhancements" they mention. I've downloaded & haven't noticed any. Performance is less important than functionality to me at this point.

"iPhoto 4.0.1 includes many organizational and stability enhancements"

 

[william1949]

8 minutes to update thumbnails on a dual 1 gig 1050 2mg pics.
My impressions:
1. Startup time for iPhotos is a lot snapper.
2. Scrolling in much smoother.
3. Thumbnails look better

A good improvement.

 

[Snowy_River]

Cool. I am starting to get my wife involved using iPhoto.
I love the interface, but have two gripes with the program in general.
1) iPhoto print service prices are double that of Ofoto (which is where the prints come from)

and

2) iPhoto cant deal with archived photos on removeable media like CDs or DVDRs. It would be sweet if it would create the thumbnail and keep the meta information for the image, allowing searching. But prompted for media when you wished to see the full image. Unless you had "enhanced" or cropped an image. Then a local copy would be acceptable.

Until then, I have to stick with my ancient copy of Extensis Portfolio (my version cant read exif info from digital camera photos )

Two points:

1) There's nothing stopping you from using Ofoto just because you use iPhoto. And, in point of fact, the only price difference is in 4x6 prints. Through iPhoto it costs $0.39 vs. $0.29 through Ofoto. Hardly twice as much.

2) If you want to store photos on a CD for use later, you can create thumbnails of them to store in iPhoto with the appropriate CD information. Or, alternatively, use Portfolio to manage the photos that you want to off load from iPhoto.

iPhoto is really geared toward these great new machines that seem to have almost unlimited disk space. It's really not aimed at the professional photographer (not to say it can't be used by us) whose photo library ranges into the tens of thousands of photos and can take tens of GBs of disk space...

That's where a piece of software like Portfolio shines. You know they're up to version 6 which is 'Panther Compatible'?

 

[PRØBE]

No, that's not the "idea." Buy the computer you want. Then buy the software you want. Very simple.

elo

Tell that to all the Apple marketing people. In the dark ages of Motorola, the software bundle was touted as a primary reason to switch to macs ie:being able to do everything you want with one, straight out of the box etc. My March issue of MacFormat has a whole article on reasons to switch to Macs, the free software being one of them.

 

[oingoboingo]

Hm, I thought the whole idea was that we pay too much dosh for underpowered computers but are compensated by pretty design and the high quality, well intergrated, bundled software. I hope this whole paying thing isn't a trend.
I have iphoto, but it is annoyingly slow and I would have been chuffed with a free update.

You are clearly new around here. The idea is that you pay a premium price for underpowered computers...and then you pay yearly for operating system updates, pay yearly for the integrated web services, and pay yearly for updates to the bundled apps. And, if you'd like, you can also pay extra to bring the included warranty up to the standard offered by the rest of the industry. The premium you pay for your hardware is just a...well...err...it's just a premium. Now please shut up. You clearly do not understand the Apple way. If you make another comment like this I will be forced to inform Steve Jobs of your complaint and he will come around to your house and forcibly take your ill-deserved Macintosh away from you. Please bear in mind that if this occurs you will also need to have a credit card handy to pay for the "Ungrateful Apple User Macintosh Removal" charge, which is also levied yearly.

Sincerely,
Apple Forum User Opinion Compliance Department.

 

[Snowy_River]

P.S. If the cost of your online ordered photos really matter that much to you, and you order a lot of them, get a CostCo membership. They have even better prices than Ofoto. Consider:

Membership cost=$45

4x6:
Price: $0.24
Savings: $0.05
Photos printed to pay for membership: 900/year, or 75/month

5x7:
Price: $0.89
Savings: $0.10
Photos printed to pay for membership: 450/year, or 38/month

8x10:
Price: $2.59
Savings: $1.40
Photos printed to pay for membership: 32/year, or 2.6/month

 

[Trowaman]

okay, I made a deal with myself. Originally I'd buy iLiife when I had at least $400 but I don't think I'm gonna make it so when I hit $300 I'll buy it. If I don't buy anything I'll buy it in 2 weeks. Wish me luck.

 

[Snowy_River]

Tell that to all the Apple marketing people. In the dark ages of Motorola, the software bundle was touted as a primary reason to switch to macs ie:being able to do everything you want with one, straight out of the box etc. My March issue of MacFormat has a whole article on reasons to switch to Macs, the free software being one of them.

Well, I believe that's what you got. And it's what you still get. iLife '04 comes free with every new Mac. Does that mean that Apple should provide major updates for free for every existing Mac user forever?

 

[ginjg]

...how else would you get iphoto 4?

iJon

buy a new computer - my daughter bought a refurbished emac that came with ilife 2004 already installed as its supposed to be on all new machines.

 

[amberashby]

Very Nice Apple. I like the new thumbs. Much better resolution.

 

[aftk2]

You are clearly new around here. The idea is that you pay a premium price for underpowered computers...and then you pay yearly for operating system updates, pay yearly for the integrated web services, and pay yearly for updates to the bundled apps.

Don't forget the Apple RAM tax. (Your 1.6Ghz PM sure as heck didn't come with 1.25 gigs of RAM).

 

[blufire]

Moving pretty quickly over here, considering I've got well over 12,000 photos. Dual 1 GHz MDD 10.3.3 w/ 768 MB, it started out with about 45 minutes. 15 mins remaining... I've run the same update on two other computers in the house, and they've been successful... iPhoto seems faster, and the thumbnails look sharper and richer.

 

[MacEyeDoc]

Wonder how long . . .

I've got a 1.25MHz AlPB with over 9500 photos, either from a Nikon 3.2 or Canon 6.3 megapixel. I wonder how long the upgrade will take?

I'm glad some of you guys are braver than I about diving in to these updates - sheesh, what if it screwed up 9500 photos! That would give you a headache - but I'll wait till I can backup before I do the update.

Cheers!

 

[Viv]

People are undoubtedly still irritated by the fact that iPhoto 4 has to be purchased through iLife, while the previous versions were free.

Stll irratated i had to buy the whole ILife suit to get IPoto but then I have to forgive them a bit as it works as well as they say and I am pleased with what it does for me.

Impresseses the hell out of PCEE users

And yes I am pleased at the update too it works fine and yes i voted positive and wondered at the negatives?

Just irratated I had to buy gargage door stop to get it!

Viv

 

[oingoboingo]

Don't forget the Apple RAM tax. (Your 1.6Ghz PM sure as heck didn't come with 1.25 gigs of RAM).

I have recorded your user ID and I am currently forwarding it direct to Steve. Please expect an Apple Macintosh Recovery team to be at your doorstep within 1-2 weeks, although if it is a PowerMac G5, we may reserve the right to continually change our collection estimate...or simply ignore it, depending on whether a high-profile academic customer has complained about their 1100 dual 2GHz G5s and we need to reclaim those first. Also, the collection date may vary wildly if a product update is imminent. We may also from time to time offer a free 'bonus' collection, where in addition to taking your Mac, we may also take your printer, scanner, or .Mac membership with us too.

Sincerely,
Steve's Secretary

PS: No, my 1.6GHz PM came with the standard 256MB RAM, and I got the other 1GB from Crucial at a substantial saving. And guess who manufactured the 256MB which was included by Apple...it starts with a 'C' and rhymes with...errr...crucial.

 

[neutrino23]

2) iPhoto cant deal with archived photos on removeable media like CDs or DVDRs. It would be sweet if it would create the thumbnail and keep the meta information for the image, allowing searching. But prompted for media when you wished to see the full image. Unless you had "enhanced" or cropped an image. Then a local copy would be acceptable.

I haven't tried this yet but at the Apple booth at MWSF the iPhoto demonstrator said you can write rolls of film to a CD-R from iPhoto. Later iPhoto will open that CD and view it just like any other library.

I found this message on the Apple Discussion forums:

If you use the Burn button in iPhoto 4 you can archive photos to either CD or DVD.

When these disks are re-inserted they will show up in iPhoto as if the were an additional Library. That way your photo archives need not take up space on your hard disk.

Your default iPhoto library remains on your computer but you could have as many archive CDs or DVDs as you like.

 

[Whipple Hippo]

iPhoto stability

This might be a coincidence, but my guess is this update came out at this time because of a problem of which I had the privilege to experience. Last week when I updated from OS 10.3.2 to 10.3.3, iPhoto would no longer load properly. It would show the window briefly without showing any pictures, then the application would encounter an unexpected error and quit. I sent in some bug reports to Apple and now, after the update, it works just fine again (well, okay it works better than before). I don't know if anyone else out there experienced the same thing.
- Ti Powerbook 400Mhz