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eric_n_dfw said:
I just joined the masses and bought a Canon Elph s400. I've been holding out for affordable Digital SLR's but think that Canon and Nikon still have a lot of margin room on their latest sub $1000 offerings. Maybe next year. (Plus Amazon has a pretty good price on this, "end of model year", camera)

I got my first real tast of iPhoto this weeked and am bit put off by the fact that it doesn't keep an "original" copy of your picture. Before now, I've used it quite a bit for organizing images from Picture-CD's but I've always got a backup of the original on both the CD from the lab and, of course, the 35mm negative. But with digital, my original file gets sucked into iPhoto and changed every time I crop it or do anything else to it. Is there a way to make a copy inside of iPhoto so I can have albums of "originals" as well as modified images?

Also the printing didn't seem to want to work with my Epson R300 and some 4x6 photo paper - it kept saying the page was too small for the print. (I'll play with it some more, but that's the kind of stuff iApps are supposed to do for you, isn't it?)

(BTW: Yes, I know I can tell iPhoto to not remove the images from my CF card and then I can copy them off to the HD and/or CD-R)

A friend showed me a Windows app that looks and feels exactly like iPhoto (from my limited exposure to it) and it does maintain a kind of "version control" type of library. Where the original is kept, along with all of the changes you make to the picture. Since CVS/RCS comes with OS X, I wonder if they could integrate it?

Just select the photo then click Photo --->>> Revert to Original
 
wow, update thumbnails again eh?

man i am soooo glad i haven't upgraded yet. first i would've had to convert all my photos so they could be used with '04, then all that time i would've saved using the new version would be eaten up by having to update 11,000 thumbnails *again* for 4.01! using an 867 12"Al... and i can see this just taking hoooouurs... maybe i'll just wait for 4.02 :D
 
I did the update but when I fired up iPhoto the program, well, didn't work. Even after a restart nothing happened and eventually the iPhoto icon dissappeared. Oh well... I downloaded iPhoto 4 off of Poisoned so that's prrrroooobably a factor.

I had to pop in my panther disc to reinstall iPhoto 2... still haven't been able to rebuild my library yet.
 
if iphoto didn't suck about putting my photos in its own stupid directories i might be happy about this...

why can't it just leave them on my hard drive the way i have them and just organize them IN iphoto??

grrr!
 
I'm happy.

It appears to have fixed the bug where slideshows crash if you do much navigation. In 4.00 I was afraid to touch the arrow keys or space bar during a slideshow, now on a quick test I was unable to crash it.

Finally I don't have to keep giving those embarassed "hmm, there's a problem with slideshow, but don't worry I'm sure it'll be fixed soon" comments when it keeps crashing while I'm tryin gto show people.
 
it does save a copy when you make changes

eric_n_dfw said:
I just joined the masses and bought a Canon Elph s400. I've been holding out for affordable Digital SLR's but think that Canon and Nikon still have a lot of margin room on their latest sub $1000 offerings. Maybe next year. (Plus Amazon has a pretty good price on this, "end of model year", camera)

I got my first real tast of iPhoto this weeked and am bit put off by the fact that it doesn't keep an "original" copy of your picture. Before now, I've used it quite a bit for organizing images from Picture-CD's but I've always got a backup of the original on both the CD from the lab and, of course, the 35mm negative. But with digital, my original file gets sucked into iPhoto and changed every time I crop it or do anything else to it. Is there a way to make a copy inside of iPhoto so I can have albums of "originals" as well as modified images?

Also the printing didn't seem to want to work with my Epson R300 and some 4x6 photo paper - it kept saying the page was too small for the print. (I'll play with it some more, but that's the kind of stuff iApps are supposed to do for you, isn't it?)

(BTW: Yes, I know I can tell iPhoto to not remove the images from my CF card and then I can copy them off to the HD and/or CD-R)

A friend showed me a Windows app that looks and feels exactly like iPhoto (from my limited exposure to it) and it does maintain a kind of "version control" type of library. Where the original is kept, along with all of the changes you make to the picture. Since CVS/RCS comes with OS X, I wonder if they could integrate it?

it does save a copy when you make changes

if you want to revert back to the original, right click on it and revert back.. or it is in the menu somewhere.. and a button somewhere too

if you want to have the original AND a copy, copy it first, then modify the second... it will let you have as many copies as you want

[edit] somebody beat me to it. but you can still have multiple copies too
 
Snowy_River said:
Okay, now I got it. It only works for coloring changes. Enhance, Red-eye, BW, Sepia, etc. It does not work if you've cropped the image. That is to say, it'll show what things looked like after you cropped, but not before (i.e. if you change colors after cropping it'll show the difference, but not if you changed colors before cropping).

Nor will this really revert to the original any old time, either. Try changing an image to BW. Now hold down control. It works fine. Now go to another image and come back. Hold down control, and nothing happens...

Pressing down Ctrl performs a temporary undo.
 
Icons during slide show

If only I could get the "stop" and "go" icons at the bottom of my monitor to disappear when I push the space bar during a slide show! The icons look less than professional when I'm trying to present a professional presentation. The option to at least turn off the icons should be there.
 
Slideshow DVD and Video in Photo...

Is there a way to burn a slideshow to DVD? I know I can include some photos in iDVD, but it limits it to 99 photos per slideshow. What I'd like is just a DVD of images I have on my machine (like the slideshow button). While burning as a backup is nice, it would be nice to have the option of burning a slideshow too.

And the person who wished that you could drop a movie (or movie clip) in there an organize it, I am with you. That is really needed. I've burned a lot of video to DVD, but I get short video clips sometimes either from my phone or from my Olympus camera and would like to keep them organized with my photos.
 
YAYYY!!! UPDATES!!

Man, I was having the worst luck with my iBook G4 until today. First the logic board went. Next the HD died a loud death. I finally have had it up and running for ~1 week (knock on wood). So i just now opened my iPhoto for the hell of it, and found that that techies at SystemsPlus installed iPhoto 4 on my iBook, when they put in the new HD and OS X.3.3 (I bought this Jan 5th, so iPhoto 4 didn't come with it!). So for all the hassels of hardware replacements I can actually do this update! WOOOOOOOHOOOOO!!!!!

Everything's coming up millhouse!


:D
 
Export to Quicktime

centauratlas said:
Is there a way to burn a slideshow to DVD? I know I can include some photos in iDVD, but it limits it to 99 photos per slideshow. What I'd like is just a DVD of images I have on my machine (like the slideshow button). While burning as a backup is nice, it would be nice to have the option of burning a slideshow too.

I don't think I've checked this myself since I upgraded to iPhoto 4, but...

... in previous versions (and, I expect in iPhoto 4) you can export a slideshow (or maybe simply a batch of photos, not a real slideshow?) to Quicktime. Then presumably you could just take the resulting Quicktime file and burn it in iDVD.

Only problem I can see with the idea I've presented here is that video is lo-res... 640x480... I'm not sure what that means for the photos (cropped or resized to lower pixel density).

Did this make any sense? It's been a long day...
:eek:
 
ct77 said:
... in previous versions (and, I expect in iPhoto 4) you can export a slideshow (or maybe simply a batch of photos, not a real slideshow?) to Quicktime. Then presumably you could just take the resulting Quicktime file and burn it in iDVD.

Did this make any sense? It's been a long day...
:eek:

That makes sense. Thanks. I am looking at it now. You are right about the export resolution, but it looks like it is adjustable. I am going to try playing around with it. ;-)
 
Smart Folders Broken

For all that haven't updated yet I would wait. I did the update and everything appeared to be fine, until I started looking at my smart folders. The ones that I used the "any" when I had more than one rule set, show me my entire library instead of just "any" of the set rules.
It also sticks, if I edit one of these and make it have only one rule so the any/all dialog disappears, and had previously selected "any", then the single rule will not work either. I must add a second rule to get the dialog back(which is still selected to "any") I must change it back to "all" then remove the second rule and the single rule works again. This happens for all smart folders on both my machines. I don't know what they did, but I am pretty pissed about this enhanced functionality. I really use smart folders and keyword a lot to organize my photos. Anyway I am in the process of reinstalling 4.0

I should also note that this only happens when trying to use more than one keyword as a rule with the "any" dialog.
 
Darkhorse said:
I did the update but when I fired up iPhoto the program, well, didn't work. Even after a restart nothing happened and eventually the iPhoto icon dissappeared. Oh well... I downloaded iPhoto 4 off of Poisoned so that's prrrroooobably a factor.

I had to pop in my panther disc to reinstall iPhoto 2... still haven't been able to rebuild my library yet.

Using the 4.0.1 standalone installer and then repairing permissions using Disk Utility seems to fix the issue. Strange thing for me is that Disk Utility takes AGES to do its thing in 10.3.3.. almost everything in iMovie and iPhoto needed repair. Hope it helps to avoid cardiac arrests like the one I got when I wasnt able to launch iPhoto after updating.
 
Updated thumbnails took about 3 minutes for me, only have around 500 photos, iMac specs below :)

Scrolling is SO MUCH BETTER!
 
dudemac said:
For all that haven't updated yet I would wait. I did the update and everything appeared to be fine, until I started looking at my smart folders. The ones that I used the "any" when I had more than one rule set, show me my entire library instead of just "any" of the set rules.

Oh well, smart folders have been broken since the beginning anyway. It has trouble with the difference between "is" and "contains" in keywords (always does a substring match). I remember there were other issues, but not which.

Further breakage is probably good news in a roundabout way, as it means they're actually working on it, and maybe it will work in the future!

[Edit] Yeah, and I see you're right about the "any" completely breaking now.
 
Upgraded iPhoto to my 12INCH POWERBOOK!

THIS **** DOESN'T WORK! I UPDATED IT, and now my iPhoto application icon is now one of those default application icons. Now when I click it, it doesn't load at all. It just dies every click. I don't know what to do but this is the worst thing ever!!!!!!!!!!! Now i can't even open my iPhoto and i don't know how to fix this. Anyone else have this problem? Help!
 
centauratlas said:
That makes sense. Thanks. I am looking at it now. You are right about the export resolution, but it looks like it is adjustable. I am going to try playing around with it. ;-)

I thought the quicktime option was great but I noticed a slight slight flicker between slides on my TiBook. It didn't seem to flow as smoothly as in iPhoto. Maybe I need to tweak it a little. Nonetheless, I am eager to try out the multi-song slideshow option. I create a lot of slides in Fireworks - anything from trail maps to title slides with black background and import them into iPhoto. I am wondering if I could get a mic and do some voice-overs. I could then use Keynote (possibly) as a launcher. This way I don't have to hit pause (get the icons at the bottom) and say "Now this is right before the raccoons pillaged our basecamp..."

Anybody tried this?
 
eric_n_dfw said:
I just joined the masses and bought a Canon Elph s400. I've been holding out for affordable Digital SLR's but think that Canon and Nikon still have a lot of margin room on their latest sub $1000 offerings. Maybe next year. (Plus Amazon has a pretty good price on this, "end of model year", camera)

I got my first real tast of iPhoto this weeked and am bit put off by the fact that it doesn't keep an "original" copy of your picture. Before now, I've used it quite a bit for organizing images from Picture-CD's but I've always got a backup of the original on both the CD from the lab and, of course, the 35mm negative. But with digital, my original file gets sucked into iPhoto and changed every time I crop it or do anything else to it. Is there a way to make a copy inside of iPhoto so I can have albums of "originals" as well as modified images?

Also the printing didn't seem to want to work with my Epson R300 and some 4x6 photo paper - it kept saying the page was too small for the print. (I'll play with it some more, but that's the kind of stuff iApps are supposed to do for you, isn't it?)

(BTW: Yes, I know I can tell iPhoto to not remove the images from my CF card and then I can copy them off to the HD and/or CD-R)

A friend showed me a Windows app that looks and feels exactly like iPhoto (from my limited exposure to it) and it does maintain a kind of "version control" type of library. Where the original is kept, along with all of the changes you make to the picture. Since CVS/RCS comes with OS X, I wonder if they could integrate it?

When in doubt in OS X, just hold down the control key and mouse click on it (in this case, on the photo). You'll be surprised by how much OS X can do with this little key. In iPhoto, Revert To Original is there, along with other options. Try it in the Finder, Safari, Mail, etc. You can do EVERYTHING with control-click! Apple should make this more clear to new users. I used it just now to check the spelling in this post. OS X rocks.
 
trash and re install

Maticode said:
THIS **** DOESN'T WORK! I UPDATED IT, and now my iPhoto application icon is now one of those default application icons. Now when I click it, it doesn't load at all. It just dies every click. I don't know what to do but this is the worst thing ever!!!!!!!!!!! Now i can't even open my iPhoto and i don't know how to fix this. Anyone else have this problem? Help!

I did not have the dead program problem. But I have seen it in the apple discussion. It probably would be best if you just trashed the whole program. and its prefs. file. And started over. Re install iLife. Then if you really want to try again download the stand alone installer and try to update it that way. Just because you trash the program doesn't mean the photo's are gone. they are still there, just the program is hosed. Hope this helps.
 
"import" tab recognizes the camera/flash card reader much faster now. no more spinning beachball, waiting forever...
 
Maticode said:
THIS **** DOESN'T WORK! I UPDATED IT, and now my iPhoto application icon is now one of those default application icons. Now when I click it, it doesn't load at all. It just dies every click. I don't know what to do but this is the worst thing ever!!!!!!!!!!! Now i can't even open my iPhoto and i don't know how to fix this. Anyone else have this problem? Help!

Repair permissions. It's recommended whenever you install or update. You can also restart which accomplishes the same task.
This should resolve your problem.

(your photos are still in your pictures folder in your user folder)
 
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