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iPhoto 4.0.2 Now Available
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belair said:
In iPhoto you can go Photo > Revert to Original, though you will loose your edited version unless you've made a copy of it first (just drag it to the desktop and then back into iPhoto once you've reverted - this may loose the date info though)
I too have found iPhoto takes longer to quit after the update, although I have yet to restart my computer (the update doesn't require one and I'm used to not having to restart my Mac as you do with Windows!!)
nitz said:
iview media pro is excellent.
QTpic is also good.
If you need a really huge program then Extensis Portfolio 7 would probably be best.
The best free alternative to iPhoto is Kodaks Easy Share program. It is put together very well and it does not rearrange your photos like iPhoto does. I used it for a long time until I need something with more features then I switched to iView media pro. Plus the current version works with both mac and windows.
Hope this helps you figure out your media management solutions.
I used to be an iView user but switched over to iPhoto because of the integration with .mac, Mail, and other stuff.
I download through Image Capture and then drop-import into iPhoto. The nice thing is that if you've configured your preferences, editing in Photoshop is a right-click away and iPhoto does a fine job of maintaining the original photo when you do any edits. Simply select "Revert to Original" and all your changes are reversed.
Now, I really don't care where the originals are in the folders because I rarely make copies of full size shots for distribution anyway. Simply select the photo you want and export it.
Cheers.
I download through Image Capture and then drop-import into iPhoto. The nice thing is that if you've configured your preferences, editing in Photoshop is a right-click away and iPhoto does a fine job of maintaining the original photo when you do any edits. Simply select "Revert to Original" and all your changes are reversed.
Now, I really don't care where the originals are in the folders because I rarely make copies of full size shots for distribution anyway. Simply select the photo you want and export it.
Cheers.
belair said:
i'm sorry to say so, but iphoto is one huge memory leak. i just came home from my vacations in california (yes, i also visited the mothership) and imported the 3000 pictures (3 and 5 mpixel) my friend and i took. it took forever to get them into iphoto on my ti 400 (although the pictures were on my hd), 1-5 sec per image - WTF?!
then i wanted to rotate some images - guess what. i could have had a cup of coffee between my clicks and the time iphoto responded. plus it leaks memory as hell, eating up all the ram while rotating images and scrolling through them - shouldn't 768mb be enough for simple rotation??
we'll see, if this version get's it fixed (i doubt it though, since after startup it needs 160mb out of the box).
you can do better, apple!
greetings from switzerland
confusion
then i wanted to rotate some images - guess what. i could have had a cup of coffee between my clicks and the time iphoto responded. plus it leaks memory as hell, eating up all the ram while rotating images and scrolling through them - shouldn't 768mb be enough for simple rotation??
we'll see, if this version get's it fixed (i doubt it though, since after startup it needs 160mb out of the box).
you can do better, apple!
greetings from switzerland
confusion
Doesn't work as Advertised
It would be great if iPhoto worked as advertised. Unfortunately, it softens every image just after they open in edit mode. (Workaround: click on the brightness or contrast tab.)
I could live with that, but the slide show feature doesn't function properly in iPhoto, either. Nor does Preview work properly, and the image dplayed on my desktop isn't as sharp as it should be, either.
Considering I paid money, for both iPhoto and my computer, the program - as well as Preview - should function properly. I guess the fix, if it ever happens, will have to involve a system upgrade.
It would be great if iPhoto worked as advertised. Unfortunately, it softens every image just after they open in edit mode. (Workaround: click on the brightness or contrast tab.)
I could live with that, but the slide show feature doesn't function properly in iPhoto, either. Nor does Preview work properly, and the image dplayed on my desktop isn't as sharp as it should be, either.
Considering I paid money, for both iPhoto and my computer, the program - as well as Preview - should function properly. I guess the fix, if it ever happens, will have to involve a system upgrade.
How do you like the nikon D70? I was thinking of getting itbelair said:I stoppded using it because of all this smart folders all over my mac.
I upload pictures every day and I edit in photoshop its just a mess finding the photos in those folders.
Besides I don't like the fact of the thumnails taking up even more space what for? I use my Nikon Viewer that came with my D70.
You guys tell me if this update is worth anything.
Qpict
I think qpict works better... for me anyway. Very feature rich. It also handles large amounts of files better. I do all my image editing and image creation in photoshop anyway so i don't need any image editing bloat. It also syncs with photoshop or any other app for that matter. Handles a large range of file types... swf, psd, picture clippings, fonts, icons, tif, jpg, mpeg, mov, pict... imports perfectly from my cannon 10D including raw.
I think qpict works better... for me anyway. Very feature rich. It also handles large amounts of files better. I do all my image editing and image creation in photoshop anyway so i don't need any image editing bloat. It also syncs with photoshop or any other app for that matter. Handles a large range of file types... swf, psd, picture clippings, fonts, icons, tif, jpg, mpeg, mov, pict... imports perfectly from my cannon 10D including raw.
iPhoto = iCrap
I also have noticed that the "updated" iPhoto now takes abhorrently long to quit. I also feel pissed about this program (like most others in this thread): I bought iLife with the understanding that it would make iPhoto useable (as distinctly opposed to iPhoto 3). While that update did make iPhoto faster, it brought its speed from glacial to molasses-like. How hard can it be for Apple to produce a photo program that doesn't feel like it was made by Microsoft?
I also have noticed that the "updated" iPhoto now takes abhorrently long to quit. I also feel pissed about this program (like most others in this thread): I bought iLife with the understanding that it would make iPhoto useable (as distinctly opposed to iPhoto 3). While that update did make iPhoto faster, it brought its speed from glacial to molasses-like. How hard can it be for Apple to produce a photo program that doesn't feel like it was made by Microsoft?
autrefois
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GeoffRuth said:
You mean iPhoto 2 (they skipped 3).
Maybe it's people with large libraries that are having problems. I'm below 1000 and am having no problems.
For people having problems: hopefully Apple will come out with a fix soon, if enough people are affected. Maybe because of the very minor changes in the update, they didn't test it out on a variety of set-ups. Maybe they accidentally screwed something up that would affect larger libraries?
nitz said:
iView Media Pro is awesome... but it will cost you $200 bucks. Worth it though if you have a lot of images (or any media files actually) to deal with. Check it out - there's a full featured demo that hooked me into buying it.
quit time
It takes a long time to quit the first time you quit after updating. I've launched and quit a couple of times now and everything is fine (2567 photos)
It takes a long time to quit the first time you quit after updating. I've launched and quit a couple of times now and everything is fine (2567 photos)
autrefois said:
stop complaining
i'm so sick of people complaining about how it supposedly "blurs" pictures in edit mode. for those who know nothing about megapixels and screen resolution - what iphoto is doing is zooming in or out on your photo so that it fits to screen. what happens most of the time is an odd zoom rate, like 27% or 83% or something. if iphoto left the image like that without the blur, it would appear very jagged and overly sharp.
because iphoto is a consumer app, they blur it so grandpa and kids say "that looks nice" instead of "why is it messed up (jagged) looking?"
iphoto is really NOT blurring the photos in a permanent way, it only displays them that way in the program. drag them to your desktop, open them in another app at 50 or 100% and they'll look fine.
btw - begin the complaining about NO CAPITALIZATION and BAAD grammer, speeling, etc.
i'm so sick of people complaining about how it supposedly "blurs" pictures in edit mode. for those who know nothing about megapixels and screen resolution - what iphoto is doing is zooming in or out on your photo so that it fits to screen. what happens most of the time is an odd zoom rate, like 27% or 83% or something. if iphoto left the image like that without the blur, it would appear very jagged and overly sharp.
because iphoto is a consumer app, they blur it so grandpa and kids say "that looks nice" instead of "why is it messed up (jagged) looking?"
iphoto is really NOT blurring the photos in a permanent way, it only displays them that way in the program. drag them to your desktop, open them in another app at 50 or 100% and they'll look fine.
btw - begin the complaining about NO CAPITALIZATION and BAAD grammer, speeling, etc.
Nothing Better to moan about.
Geez, some of you's love to moan.
Sure iphoto don't have a heap load of functions and it isn't over endowed with speed, but its fine for me. I don't want loads of functions, I'm quite happy with just viewing the photo's I want when I want, and that's exactly what it does.
I don't use smart albums, (never really had much success there) and I don't fiddle about with the original photo folders. I rarely want to edit more than the odd photo and I simply drag it to my desktop, work on it with PS and drag it back.I usually organise each album by date, but there are 3 other ways to organise them. I don't bother rating 98% of my photo's, but it can help if you need to organise by something other than date.
I'm sure if you want more bloated software there are many other apps available for me iphoto is just what I want, especially because of the ilife integration.
As for speed, I don't think it's that bad that it warrants the complaints being made, either you guys have some system probs or your just outright impatient. Just for the hell, I've just given it a quick test.
I'm using a 733 MHz chip with 1GB of RAM (so that ain't that fast) right now the mac is backing up one external HD to another HD, creating a.mov from a VOB and converting two .dv files to MPG2's, I have about 6500 photos which vary in size from about 500K to 10Mb (although most are between 500K and 1 Mb) - it took 12 secs to open and 10 secs to close.
The only thing I would like to see is nested folders, my collection is well organised in my opinion and so I have loads of albums all at the same level, which for organisational purposes I have had to call "Vacations-2002-Florida-Week1" and "Vacations-2002-Florida-Week2" and "Sports Events-2003-French GP-Qualifying" for example. Nested folders would save me lots of scrolling, but at least I can drag and drop to order the list of albums.
iPhoto is more or less ideal for me, quit moaning about a few seconds guys.
Geez, some of you's love to moan.
Sure iphoto don't have a heap load of functions and it isn't over endowed with speed, but its fine for me. I don't want loads of functions, I'm quite happy with just viewing the photo's I want when I want, and that's exactly what it does.
I don't use smart albums, (never really had much success there) and I don't fiddle about with the original photo folders. I rarely want to edit more than the odd photo and I simply drag it to my desktop, work on it with PS and drag it back.I usually organise each album by date, but there are 3 other ways to organise them. I don't bother rating 98% of my photo's, but it can help if you need to organise by something other than date.
I'm sure if you want more bloated software there are many other apps available for me iphoto is just what I want, especially because of the ilife integration.
As for speed, I don't think it's that bad that it warrants the complaints being made, either you guys have some system probs or your just outright impatient. Just for the hell, I've just given it a quick test.
I'm using a 733 MHz chip with 1GB of RAM (so that ain't that fast) right now the mac is backing up one external HD to another HD, creating a.mov from a VOB and converting two .dv files to MPG2's, I have about 6500 photos which vary in size from about 500K to 10Mb (although most are between 500K and 1 Mb) - it took 12 secs to open and 10 secs to close.
The only thing I would like to see is nested folders, my collection is well organised in my opinion and so I have loads of albums all at the same level, which for organisational purposes I have had to call "Vacations-2002-Florida-Week1" and "Vacations-2002-Florida-Week2" and "Sports Events-2003-French GP-Qualifying" for example. Nested folders would save me lots of scrolling, but at least I can drag and drop to order the list of albums.
iPhoto is more or less ideal for me, quit moaning about a few seconds guys.
Blurring
>i'm so sick of people complaining about how it supposedly "blurs" pictures in edit mode. for those who know nothing about megapixels and screen resolution - what iphoto is doing is zooming in or out on your photo so that it fits to screen.<
What iPhoto does is blur your photo and there's nothing "supposedly" about it. I work with megapixels and screen resolution for a living. In fact, iPhoto doesn't "fit" a photo to the screen except in slide show mode, where it's also a failure at creating a sharp image. No matter what size a picture displays in initially, it quickly "pops" out of focus in iPhoto. When its in focus, I don't see jaggies, I just see a sharp picture.
>iphoto is really NOT blurring the photos in a permanent way, it only displays them that way in the program. drag them to your desktop, open them in another app at 50 or 100% and they'll look fine.<
No, it doesn't blur them permanantly, and clicking on a brightness/contrast tab will pop them into proper focus. But why should I have to do that to obtain a sharp picture? Btw, my kids are perfectly aware when photos are out of focus and more than happy to let me know that iPhoto sucks.
Why should I have to look at a photo at 100%? Not much of a 5 megapixel image would be visible and I don't image grandpa or the kids would be amused.
And why should iPhoto blur photos in its slide shows? Why does Preview blur pictures? None of my other programs that work with photographs have that problem, and iPhoto shouldn't, either.
>i'm so sick of people complaining about how it supposedly "blurs" pictures in edit mode. for those who know nothing about megapixels and screen resolution - what iphoto is doing is zooming in or out on your photo so that it fits to screen.<
What iPhoto does is blur your photo and there's nothing "supposedly" about it. I work with megapixels and screen resolution for a living. In fact, iPhoto doesn't "fit" a photo to the screen except in slide show mode, where it's also a failure at creating a sharp image. No matter what size a picture displays in initially, it quickly "pops" out of focus in iPhoto. When its in focus, I don't see jaggies, I just see a sharp picture.
>iphoto is really NOT blurring the photos in a permanent way, it only displays them that way in the program. drag them to your desktop, open them in another app at 50 or 100% and they'll look fine.<
No, it doesn't blur them permanantly, and clicking on a brightness/contrast tab will pop them into proper focus. But why should I have to do that to obtain a sharp picture? Btw, my kids are perfectly aware when photos are out of focus and more than happy to let me know that iPhoto sucks.
Why should I have to look at a photo at 100%? Not much of a 5 megapixel image would be visible and I don't image grandpa or the kids would be amused.
And why should iPhoto blur photos in its slide shows? Why does Preview blur pictures? None of my other programs that work with photographs have that problem, and iPhoto shouldn't, either.
you know im happy with iphoto already. i dont know why people expect so much out of a free app; or an app that used to be free. sure there is always room for improvement, but this isnt a pro app so just be happy that it can do som much more
belair said:
Whenever I read something like this, I am suddenly struck by the inability of some people to "get it". iPhoto is your interface to the photos. You are not supposed to use the filesystem. That seems so abundantly obvious to me...why is that some folks don't get it?
I agree, twice.jxyama said:
Might be possible to create Smart Folders of iPhoto folder hierarchies using Spotlight in Tiger that can be more conveniently accessed from Finder and non-iPhoto apps. And maybe it'll eventually be possible to manage custom file/folder hierarchies of images with iPhoto.
Personally, I find it tedious maintaining physical storage layouts/hierarchies so letting iPhoto do that work for me is fine.
"Folders" are becoming flexible collections of data from different locations (like iPhoto albums, iTunes playlists, etc.), without being dependent on the underlying storage boundaries of traditional files/folders. Hierarchical organization can still exist but needn't be imposed.
Sometimes there's conflict between traditional filesystem access and application-specific interfaces. Improvements will happen, in some form or another.ccuilla said:
autrefois said:
I personally think it's a bad idea, unless it launches Software Update.
- Why confuse the "joe average" user with a number of ways of updating?
- Why not utilise the opportunity. For example if SU if off, and all other apps don't check but iPhoto announces an update is available, when it takes the user to SU they will see all the other updates. Then in future they'll be aware that they can update their software via SU. It sounds stupid but you wouldn't believe the number of people I come across that don't know about keeping their software up-to-date. It's not a conscious decision not to, it's a genuine ignorance.
iPhoto 4.0.2 installed fine, first time starting up was slow (to be expected), but every-things smooth. Don't notice any performance change. Only preference change is the one to check for updates automatically.
AppleMatt
I just want to say that iPhoto quit in less than a second on my computer after the update so I cant relate to everyone who had a problem...