iPhoto 4.0.2 Now Available

[fatfish]

More whinning about nothing

Never really noticed any blurring, always took it that iphoto was simply refocusing the picture, but again I ran some trials to see what all the whinning was about.

And yes, if that's how you want to describe it, blurring does occur - but get this. When I open a photo to fit in the window the blurring (being around individual pixels) is mainly undetectable (I say mainly and will come back to this). If I zoom in to the point where each pixel starts to become prominent and release the slider bar, then I can see the blurring you's mention.

However gotta say "Thanx Apple for this great feature"; the picture whilst admittedly "slightly blurred" is a marked improvement over the distinctively pixelated version I had before releasing the slider. To me and surely anyone who's IQ reaches double figures, this is a feature and not a bug in iphoto. I simply can't imagine anyone who would rather look at their photo's like a patch work quilt.

Returning to my observation were the blurring was mainly undetectable when the photo was opened to fit the window. In some cases, if I looked hard, with my nose virtually on the screen, I could detect the blurring occuring. However on further investigation, it occurred only with poor photos (either because of poor picture taking or where I had taken the picture with one of my lesser quality cameras).

So it is my opinion that those who have an issue with blurring, should perhaps turn their complaing towards their own photographic skills or their equipment. Yes there is blurring, but it's a compromise for poor photo's and personally I like it.

 

[CubaTBird]

okokok

im tryin to import some photos and after this update i keep gettin the spinnin beach ball for like the past 10 min... why is this

 

[Doga]

SLOW QUIT

I just did the update and I regret it; iPhoto takes ages to quit now, with a spinning beach ball. If you haven't updated yet, you should wait. I should have checked to see if other people had experienced any problems before I ran Software Update - now I'm seeing comments about it on various boards (as well as adding my own). #@#%^

 

[brianwells]

The "blurring" feature.

What iPhoto does is blur your photo and there's nothing "supposedly" about it. I work with megapixels and screen resolution for a living.

Sorry, ifudge. I agree with fatfish and mlrproducts that the "blurring" is a feature and not a bug. Those of us who do not work with megapixels and screen resolution for a living are happy with the way iPhoto softens the image after scaling.

Perhaps you'd be better off with a more professional app since you work with it for a living

In any case, it would be nice if Apple provided a checkbox to turn off the feature if one did not like it. That would quiet the controversy

 

[tny]

$10 says liberal Steve isn't going to post the republican speeches. At which point i'll never buy another song from itms. -- menelaus22

The Audiobooks are made and selected by Audible, not Steve Jobs; listen to one of them (say Colin Powell's testimony to the 9/11 commission) - it says "Audible" right at the beginning of the track.

 

[JDOG_]

Apparently iPhoto damaged my iTunes music library because it's re-determining my song volumes & all that fun stuff...it also got rid of all my nice stats like dates added, so I can no longer sort things by when I added them. Thanks apple :I

Definitely didn't have this problem before I installed it & I wasn't doing anything else in case you were wondering. Blegh.

 

[Balin64]

iPhoto is good for Consumers...

... Compare it to comparable Windows software...

iPhoto wins in every aspect.

If a user is concerned about "blurring" or resizing... they should not be using iPhoto.

I work as a graphic designer and photographer; for serious work images, I never even think of iPhoto: Photoshop CS is THE way to go.

But, fot fun iMovie, IDVD and ,mac projects, iPhoto takes the cake: just learn to harness iPhoto when it's not running: keep the library lean by deleting stuff you know you won't need anymore. Let's just say this: I always keep back up of images: iPhoto just offers integration with some great Apple services.

Take it easy peoples.

 

[~Shard~]

If a user is concerned about "blurring" or resizing... they should not be using iPhoto.

Why not? is that really too much to ask, based on the simplicity of those functions? I wouldn't say that those are "power functions" which should require a multi-hundred $$$ pro application like Photoshop to carry out.

 

[GeeYouEye]

Works fine for me. Yes, quitting takes a while (86 seconds w/~3600 images), but going through the photos is smoother, less laggy. If only they could make iMovie as responsive when doing a Photo/video slideshow/movie with a sixth as many photos as the library; right now, on a 1.5GHz PB, it takes 10 minutes to save the movie, a minute to adjust a song by one frame, 5 minutes total to edit a simple fadeout of a song... and I know it's not simply a lack of horsepower; rendering a transition takes no time at all, but adding that transition takes 4 minutes. Hell, if I could trade all that for a 86 second quit time in iMovie I'd take it.

 

[reorx]

Whenever I read something like this, I am suddenly struck by the inability of some people to "get it". iPhoto is your interface to the photos. You are not supposed to use the filesystem. That seems so abundantly obvious to me...why is that some folks don't get it?

But it doesn't work cross platform from a fileserver. My wife and I share our pics on a fileserver so we both can view/edit them on our respective machines while taking advantage of the redundant drive array of the server for piece of mind (backing up to optical, mind you). She has a Sony laptop, I have my Power Book. What I've been looking for is a way to have an imaging app browse/cache the thumbnails while they sit on the server filesystem, without having to resort to the Finder... iPhoto can't do that, so I'm left with opening PSE and using their browser, which is too much overhead when I want to just sift through the year's pics...

I guess I'll be looking at some of the other alternatives mentioned in this thread...

 

[GeorgeTheMonkey]

Arr, Search.

The only thing this monkey wants is the ability to actually search through his photos. Hey, iTunes has it -- why can't iPhoto search the metadata as well?

Sure, there's smart albums, but they unfortunately just don't cut it for me. I want something quicker than that. (I've literally spent hours manually finding pictures, when I could've found 'em in half a minute with a simple search feature.)

I also am a bit less than fond of the bloating, myself. Granted, all my photos are >5MB files, and I have 4400 of them. (I probably should've updated to new photo management software a long time ago. ) I think once you get past 2000 photos, iPhoto bogs down significantly... So yup, better speed and image handling would be decent as well. Speed, and search. And I'll be happy.

But hey, iPhoto is still great, and still blows similar Windows programs out of the water. So thanks, Apple.

 

[dantec]

My biggest pet peeve with iPhoto. The stupid zoom thing! I would like to be able to set it to even percentages like 100%, 50% 200% and what not.

Set it in Preferences for iPhoto to open images in an 'edit window'. At least there it tells you the percentage in the toolbar...

I like iPhoto... I remember the days when I had to use the finder and Adobe Photoshop Deluxe 2.0... Urgh !

iPhoto has been great to me... iPhoto 4 really made everything great and with 1950 photos it worked great on my 667 tiBook... Now that I got my Alubook (1.5 ghz, yesterday) it has become even sweeter.

The one thing that bugs me though is sometimes when editing images, they become bigger than they once were... My Powershot S50 usually averages at 1.5 mb per picture and iPhoto sometimes bloats this to 2.0 mb...

Another thing is proper white balance... Enhance kinda does this but not really...

iPhoto is my 2nd favorite iApp (with iTunes being first).

 

[goron]

You guys tell me if this update is worth anything.

One thing I've noticed is that smart albums now work properly if you do something like:

keyword is XX
OR
keyword is YY​

Before, it would show as empty.

 

[Vanilla]

Well I loaded the update and the first time I exited iPhoto it did take quite a while. Ever since then its been fine. Quite what the benefits of the update are I have no idea.
I have 881 pictures in my library.
Vanilla

 

[CmdrLaForge]

you know im happy with iphoto already. i dont know why people expect so much out of a free app; or an app that used to be free. sure there is always room for improvement, but this isnt a pro app so just be happy that it can do som much more

I agree. I like iPhoto. I use it quite often. It integrates very well into the other iApps. I have my new Sony Cam now for only 1 month and not more then 500+ pics. It works really nice.

The only thing I don't like is that I cannot create picture websites without .Mac and no independant slideshows. And I will not buy .Mac. Its jsut too freakin expensive.

Cheers

 

[CmdrLaForge]

The only thing this monkey wants is the ability to actually search through his photos. Hey, iTunes has it -- why can't iPhoto search the metadata as well?

Sure, there's smart albums, but they unfortunately just don't cut it for me. I want something quicker than that. (I've literally spent hours manually finding pictures, when I could've found 'em in half a minute with a simple search feature.)

I guess Tiger is the answer.

 

[sjk]

Anyone here have experience with Adobe Photoshop Album 2.0? I downloaded the free version on my wife's notebook PC and tinkered with it for about five minutes, then gave my wife my iBook soon after that and we haven't touched APA (or Windows, hurray!) since.

 

[LimeiBook86]

eh...

Well I guess it's ok. Seems to work fine for me. But it takes 25 seconds to quit the application on a 12'' 867mhz Rev A PowerBook, 640mb RAM. I'd expect this from my 466mhz G3 iBook SE, but not my Powerbook!

I hope there is small fix, or an explanation for the slow quitting soon.

 

[Zaty]

Well I guess it's ok. Seems to work fine for me. But it takes 25 seconds to quit the application on a 12'' 867mhz Rev A PowerBook, 640mb RAM. I'd expect this from my 466mhz G3 iBook SE, but not my Powerbook!

I hope there is small fix, or an explanation for the slow quitting soon.

On my Rev. B 12" PB it takes much longer to quit, too. Anyone else noticed this as well?

 

[sjk]

The only thing I don't like is that I cannot create picture websites without .Mac and no independant slideshows.

What kind of "picture web site" and "independent slideshow" are you trying to create? Have you looked at utilities like Galerie and BetterHTMLExport?

 

[Sherif Iskander]

I got it!!!!!!! It's not a bug!!!!

All complaints about slow shutdown times. Try leaving iphoto on fo a while about a couple of minutes. Then try shutting it down. It will shut down in leass than 2 seconds!!!! I believe when we see slow shutdown time and th spinning beach ball is because you are asking it to shutdown before the start has completed!!! I think iphoto has this mechanism that allows it to startup very quickly and continue the startup tasks in the background to speed up startup time. When you start it up and then decide to shut it down before those tasks are completeed, it will just keep on going until it finishes the startup tasks and THEN shutdown!!! Should not present a problem unless you start applications just to quit them 2 seconds later!!!!

 

[toughboy]

I dont know whats up with you guys but I love iPhoto... its been 4300+ files (most of them over 1mb each taken by my S50) and its really amazing how it handles them all with no wait at all..

and.. every update is a good thing.. I'll do it as soon as possible (after I backup all my photos to a dvd)..

 

[sjk]

The only thing this monkey wants is the ability to actually search through his photos. Hey, iTunes has it -- why can't iPhoto search the metadata as well?

Yeah, that's weak.

Certain metadata that could be saved as EXIF data within images (e.g. keywords) is only stored in iPhoto's external database. Same thing with iTunes metadata (e.g. ratings) but that seems less an issue. Or mailer-dependent implementations of flags/labels.

How metadata is handled is an important portability and interoperability issue. A side effect of Apple's Spotlight might be to bring more attention to that.

 

[ifudge]

Blurred iPhotos

>If a user is concerned about "blurring" or resizing... they should not be using iPhoto.

I work as a graphic designer and photographer; for serious work images, I never even think of iPhoto: Photoshop CS is THE way to go.<

Since I paid for iPhoto, on the not unreasonable assumption that photos would be displayed withou blurring them, I think I and other pople who have this problem are not out of line making our complaints known. While Photoshop is for "serious" work, there is no reason a "fun" application should provide inferior images.

In reading over the posts here, and having re-read some posts on the Apple and Macintouch web sites, I think it's possible that blurred images don't show up on every computer. But it certainly shows up on enough computers to demonstrate it's a real problem for many people.

Certainly the blurred photos do not, when sharpened by clicking on the contrast or brightness tabs, exhibit jaggies. Instead, the pictures snap into crisp focus. If these same pictures can snap into proper focus with Photoshop or GraphicConverter, they should be equally sharp in iPhoto, without having to click on tabs or use other workarounds. Photos should be sharp in the slide show mode (which CS doesn't have). At the very least there should be an option for turning the blurring "feature" on or off.

 

[aswitcher]

iPhoto - how do I access these new features???

I got an email from Apple today saying

"Now you can use iPhoto’s onscreen controls to rotate images, rate them (up to 5 stars) and delete the ones you don’t want to keep. In no time at all, you’ll be emailing photos to friends and creating pro-quality slideshows with your top shots. "

It also had a picture of a photo with slightly transparent grey commands to do just this.

I can't work out how to activate this cool looking feature. Help?